I'm just going to respond to everything in one post, even if I have to repeat things. I'll also make it more readable this time I guess.
First off, not a good look. Not sure if it's really slang. I forgot to respond to this initially, mb. I saw it and just didn't process it.
You learn new things from the new generation I suppose. definetly not a good look on me, how far I have fallen.
To respond to this I suppose:
WRT the bolded this can apply to multiple other players in the thread (Mango being one of them, which you mentioned yourself). If this is your read of the slot you don't change it after realizing nearly every post was AI generated, which alone makes it more likely to be carefree and not stressed as mafia.
Your read on Alexis therefor fairly objectivley isn't good and I think you should be able to aknowledge that. Instead when pressured on it further you move the goalpost back of it's suddenly a "hunch" of a read and it's not that deep and this or that.
Here, you aknowledge Alexis has been faking it. Yet later on when asked on the read you retain it for practically no reason.
To elaborate on this, you kind of gave him a read off of nearly nothing while catching up IMO. You state it's because they just seem chill in thread but that applies to other players as well (Mango I'm just going to be repeating here lol) which you didn't comment on. It's the only post that really leaned you towards one direction out of the entire thread you read and it was just like, an underwhelming ISO.
You can continue to say it was just a gut read, but it feels TMI-esque and I don't think theirs really any way I change my view of that.
It being AI generated is concerning and does come off as ingeniune sure, at the time I was not aware of it and tbh fuck it still made me laugh and got a good vibe from it. But this does not mean he is lock town, for now he is just town lean, if he continues and does not do jack shit I would be more than happy to hang him in the tallest tree, but right now among all the other players who just fluff he does not stand out as scummy to me and atleast he made me laugh, AI generated or not. Hell atleast he got creative with it and gave reads despite it not being much but it was an attempt none the less, and got good vibes and FYI vibes and hunch is kinda the same thing to me. Again, this is really not that deep a person made me laugh and enjoyed his post and for that this early he got a townie lean from me.
So people giving town leans to players with no explicit reason is not considered TMI? if we really wanna go by that logic of yours. Like I find it funny, you ever catch up to a thread and just get a good vibe from a player and give them town lean? that does not happen in your world?
Because it was just worthless. The game started nearly 14 hours ago and so far the same 4 reads are being parroted around like paperwork. Nothing is really getting done and this conversation at the end of the day is entirely pointless but to drain the motivation of those playing. You say it gave you a read on crowned but you never say what the conclusion gave you by the way. How would my reaction have impacted anything? The answer is simple: You keep on sidestepping the question at hand as opposed towards responding it in an organic way.
@SoulKiller ^ Read the above even if you don't read the post. I think it's an important point to convey.
This could very well just be a difference in gameplay but I at the very least want you to tell me what my reaction couldve given. Convince me it wasn't a useless question! You're stating it gave you a better read on Crowned for asking it but why would that question have really impacted anything is the point I'm trying to convey?
My guy, the game barely started and you outing the information and people questioning about it sparks back and forth, for example you and crowned, and crowned and ultra, and other people weighting and commeting about the situation. How is that useless beginning of the D0 is beyond me. A discussion is a discussion. How is it draining to players ? if they got drained by that then idk how they still playing mafia lol.
Also, you seem to have misread or not payed attention, crowned pushing your claim to testify as I said is good look in my book because I would of done the same (which is townie in my book, if you do something and I think to myself, i would of done that too then it's townie cred for you). It's not a rocket science. You see, you might not see how any of this benefitial which is odd to me because you either don't care about scum hunting early or B just clueless in your own bubble that everything is useless. or C a scum and deminishing the benefit of it, and just for clarification your reaction is not what gave me a read on crowned, not sure how that conclusion even came from. Your reaction impacts only you, because it allows me to read your behavior.
You're not budging since that's not really what I'm asking lol. I can very easily see how my intentions couldve been diluted reading my past posts especailly because my posting style is kind of in a free flowing way, but you really didn't respond to the thing I asked:
> what information did you gain from it?
That being, from my reaction what information did you gain?
@SoulKiller probably also read the above, it re-iterats a prior point lol.
If by reaction here you mean, how you reacted when crowned tested your claim, I already explained myself. Which really feels you ain't reading. We literally went back and forth on this. But to make it simple, i found it odd that you would think it's scummy and useless for someone to test your claim? like you can't possibly seeing it from a townie pov is extremely odd and not sure how if you are a townie can't see that.
Absolutely, but I don't think any player but Alexis was doing it in a specific way where you sidestep thread content. I also did FoS Mango (once again, the only other example that you bring up lol). WRT the bolded, you still don't change your read as already mentioned prior in this post.
Yeah, I just think it's TMI since I don't understand the point at hand. I don't really see a way I change on this since it just is something that's inherintly scummy.
My reads list I gave later in response to this but I'll summarize it in one post:
Town
- Yoho
- Naomi
- Flower
- Myself
All 4 of which have gameplay contributions actually. It doesn't make me scum even if I had somebody like Mango though, just like you scum reading Alexis doesn't make you scum. It's just soemthing that I don't see coming from a town here.
Just how I don't understand how you would give a townie point to Yoho when he really posted yes, but in the grand scheme of things nothing contributive, yet you gave him a town lean. Why? see? like i can go down this path down with you and trust me, it will get very muddy. Alot of players are posting but if you take a look at their posts they are not contributing anything. So just because they have thread presence and just post without having their post have any meaningful way to contribute means they are town? I can go down the rabbit hole and say this is simply TMI from your end. It's fine to have vibe reads, nothing is wrong with that. Alot of people have different playstyles and you don't read them all in the same way. Some are more instinctuals players and some are more rational and logical and some inbetween.
My point being that in your post you didn't really come to very much conclusions about your reads. You laid out the thread state and what you observed but it's not really observations so much as it is things that happened. You hedged a lot on reads and played the game in a way that I think is more likely to come from a scum.
I did come to enough conclusions based on the content presented to me so far, I would go far and say I provided more conclusion and analysis than you, who just lumped up 4 players and basically said 'oh they are all contributed in the thread, they are townies therefor' like it's soo shallow, lazy, and that's fine if that is your way. But again, I don't play like you and you don't play like me, these reads are for me to build on in the future, to go back to, and to provide in hopes to solve the game. I never hedge in any of my reads, I don't give alignment if you don't swing either way. Does not mean I must give you a townie or scummy lean, and if I do give reads it's based on the player and what they did, and again each player is different and I judge and read them differently.
You can go back and check all my games I always give analysis and build on them. Again, if you don't think it's useful that is a YOU problem. It's useful for me to scum hunt and that's what matters at the end of the day.
Funny, I think people who don't elaborate in their thoughts and just give reads with no thoughts whatsoever behind it are more likely to be scummy, the least skilled one atleast.
I know every town lean you gave and mentioned it prior fyi, and it's exactly two of them. I'm still not counting the leans on myself / Alexis since wrt Alexis in specific I would think you'd have dropped it, and the read on me wasn't clearly conveyed in your post with you calling me Null first and foremost.
I already mentioned alexis part above and for you as I stated numerous times already, i don't give everyone the same town leans, you a slight faint town lean. Barely edging the null.
I'm still not defensive, I'm merely stating it gains no information and I'm confused why you're misconstructing my point.
'misconstructing your point' funny, I feel like you honestly just in your own little bubble. Like I say something and you say something else and ignore what I said.
More as though they're not coming to defined conclusions which inherintly don't really help the town nor generate a worldstate of yours. I don't really expect a grand detailed explanation or complete ISO for every player.
It's DP0 my guy, there will never be any solid 100% conclusion, you give reads and based on my reads on player I decide if they lean this way or another or if they are null. You still need to elaborate on your thoughts and as I said I build up on it, i am the one who will catch filthy scum here, so I put the effort for myself to do so to gather my thoughts in one post and go back to it. Don't like it? don't read it.
This gave me a better view of you simply because you're responding in a fine way I guess lol. Jeez I'm tired lol
What can I say, I am a nice respectful person ;)