Speculations Chapter 1022+ Predictions + ZKK Is Dead?

[zzShinichi]

Personally for me it’s dead
My reasoning is simple,

Zoro’s treatment is supposed to make him last only for finishing up King I suppose and THEN he will get back double the damage…

For me, I see double the damage returning right at the end of his fight with King… if that’s the case… I see zero chance of Zoro killing Kaido…

on top of that, it seems Zoro entrusted Kaido to Luffy from last dialogs when he went down from rooftop…

The only way for Zoro to kill kaido is for him to finish King SO FAST and swiftly before the damage returns and then go up and finish Kaido with Luffy and again before the damage returns… and honestly that would be kinda over the top for me… it’s way too much…
I mean it could happen if Oda doesn’t care at all about logic, but yeah it’s waaay too much for me to believe Oda will do that

The thing is, Oda hasnt stated that the treatment will only last as long as Zoro fights King. That’s all speculation. If Oda wants, the treatment will last as long as it needs for Zoro to shine.
Also, as his vice captain and one of Luffy’s wings, Zoro needs to be up there to witness Luffy defeat his first Yonkou.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Both calamities will be done in less than 15 mins.

15 minutes in manga timeline can be many chapters…
Did you forget the freaking birdcage and 10 min haki break? Lol

Oda could literally draw 20 chapters and we’re still in minute 6 hhhhh

 

[HA001]

15 minutes in manga timeline can be many chapters…
Did you forget the freaking birdcage and 10 min haki break? Lol

Oda could literally draw 20 chapters and we’re still in minute 6 hhhhh

I don't care about that. I'm on about inverse the calamities will be done before momos moment on onigashima. Which is just round the corner I doubt zoros side effect is so early and even if that's the case it's only something he will power through.
Kaidos dying and the arcs almost done there's no blackbeard or Marines here to do anything else with him.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

The thing is, Oda hasnt stated that the treatment will only last as long as Zoro fights King. That’s all speculation. If Oda wants, the treatment will last as long as it needs for Zoro to shine.
Also, as his vice captain and one of Luffy’s wings, Zoro needs to be up there to witness Luffy defeat his first Yonkou.

Yeah I said “I assume” until king fight is done
As for it lasting until Kaido is out I believe it’s excessive and way over the top, personally…
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I don't care about that. I'm on about inverse the calamities will be done before momos moment on onigashima. Which is just round the corner I doubt zoros side effect is so early and even if that's the case it's only something he will power through.
Kaidos dying and the arcs almost done there's no blackbeard or Marines here to do anything else with him.

If Zoro will power throw double the damage of 30 bones which is 60 bones broken and kill Kaido it is without a doubt the stupidest writing I have ever seen in manga history
There is nothing badass about it, it’s just pure stupidety on all scales… on all fronts, on all sides… on all everything… like wtf is this horse shit lol

 

[humanbeing]

ZKK is not Zoro Defeats Kaidou, it's Zoro Kills Kaidou after he's defeated by Luffy bro.
And don't act like Zoro has never defeated a main antagonist before when Oda has Zoro clapped Hordy even before Luffy did.
Also don't call a theory bullshit if you can't even get the main idea of the theory right.

that is bullshit. you want Zoro to kill a defeated and unconscious person? what kind of honor would be that for Zoro?
we know those who are defeated by Luffy lose their consciousness. every single one of them.

 

[Shasha23]

Personally for me it’s dead
My reasoning is simple,

Zoro’s treatment is supposed to make him last only for finishing up King I suppose and THEN he will get back double the damage…

For me, I see double the damage returning right at the end of his fight with King… if that’s the case… I see zero chance of Zoro killing Kaido…

on top of that, it seems Zoro entrusted Kaido to Luffy from last dialogs when he went down from rooftop…

The only way for Zoro to kill kaido is for him to finish King SO FAST and swiftly before the damage returns and then go up and finish Kaido with Luffy and again before the damage returns… and honestly that would be kinda over the top for me… it’s way too much…
I mean it could happen if Oda doesn’t care at all about logic, but yeah it’s waaay too much for me to believe Oda will do that

nowhere did it say how long the medicine will last though

 

[zzShinichi]

that is bullshit. you want Zoro to kill a defeated and unconscious person? what kind of honor would be that for Zoro?
we know those who are defeated by Luffy lose their consciousness. every single one of them.

Enel.

 

[Shasha23]

If Zoro will power throw double the damage of 30 bones which is 60 bones broken and kill Kaido it is without a doubt the stupidest writing I have ever seen in manga history
There is nothing badass about it, it’s just pure stupidety on all scales… on all fronts, on all sides… on all everything… like wtf is this horse shit lol

Zoro wont power throw more damage, he will feel the pain double.
Given he can now move freely it seems the medicine is a magic drug that can repair broken bones, but at the cost of after the adrenaline worse off he will have a backlash of double the pain.

 

[uyuu]

Yeah I said “I assume” until king fight is done
As for it lasting until Kaido is out I believe it’s excessive and way over the top, personally…
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If Zoro will power throw double the damage of 30 bones which is 60 bones broken and kill Kaido it is without a doubt the stupidest writing I have ever seen in manga history
There is nothing badass about it, it’s just pure stupidety on all scales… on all fronts, on all sides… on all everything… like wtf is this horse shit lol

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

nowhere did it say how long the medicine will last though

Not saying how much it lasts doesn’t make it right to just make it active until the end of arc… that’s literally why I’m saying it would be worst writing
Worse than freaking Olin and Kibi Dango which people have complained against
It’s worse on a completely different level of bad…

If that’s how people want to push a Zoro agenda, I’m disappointed cause they literally not anymore care about good story and just want to shove an agenda…

When Zoro was on rooftop before with Luffy I was so fine with Zoro doing ZKK… right there and then with Luffy and co..

but giving him 30 broken bones… only to amount for nothing to have his fight with king with magical treatment that came out of nowhere RKO Randy Orton style… I was like “okay… let it slide, let him have his main arc fight”
He faces king, and not only that but beats him, drug does not wear out… goes to Kaido, fights with Luffy and kills Kaido and THEN the drug magically wakes up!

c’mon it’s so stupid.. no matter how hard an agenda is pushed… it shouldn’t be as stupid as this…
Like literal crap and filth level of writing

 

[uyuu]

Not saying how much it lasts doesn’t make it right to just make it active until the end of arc… that’s literally why I’m saying it would be worst writing
Worse than freaking Olin and Kibi Dango which people have complained against
It’s worse on a completely different level of bad…

If that’s how people want to push a Zoro agenda, I’m disappointed cause they literally not anymore care about good story and just want to shove an agenda…

When Zoro was on rooftop before with Luffy I was so fine with Zoro doing ZKK… right there and then with Luffy and co..

but giving him 30 broken bones… only to amount for nothing to have his fight with king with magical treatment that came out of nowhere RKO Randy Orton style… I was like “okay… let it slide, let him have his main arc fight”
He faces king, and not only that but beats him, drug does not wear out… goes to Kaido, fights with Luffy and kills Kaido and THEN the drug magically wakes up!

c’mon it’s so stupid.. no matter how hard an agenda is pushed… it shouldn’t be as stupid as this…
Like literal crap and filth level of writing

Thats why its powerlevel agenda, since PL is what matters the most.

 

[HA001]

Not saying how much it lasts doesn’t make it right to just make it active until the end of arc… that’s literally why I’m saying it would be worst writing
Worse than freaking Olin and Kibi Dango which people have complained against
It’s worse on a completely different level of bad…

If that’s how people want to push a Zoro agenda, I’m disappointed cause they literally not anymore care about good story and just want to shove an agenda…

When Zoro was on rooftop before with Luffy I was so fine with Zoro doing ZKK… right there and then with Luffy and co..

but giving him 30 broken bones… only to amount for nothing to have his fight with king with magical treatment that came out of nowhere RKO Randy Orton style… I was like “okay… let it slide, let him have his main arc fight”
He faces king, and not only that but beats him, drug does not wear out… goes to Kaido, fights with Luffy and kills Kaido and THEN the drug magically wakes up!

c’mon it’s so stupid.. no matter how hard an agenda is pushed… it shouldn’t be as stupid as this…
Like literal crap and filth level of writing

Zkk was never going to be on the roof. Kaidos heads coming off in the Flower Capital

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Thats why its powerlevel agenda, since PL is what matters the most.

It is so bad
No matter how anyone tries to justify it
It is the stupidest W that has Zero logic in it

that shit is worse than worst fairy tail arc fight…
Go look for your worst most hated anime you have, look for the worst fight there… and this one will be worse

that’s how bad it is

 

[zzShinichi]

Zoro, pain, enduring huh. Why does this feel so familiar…..

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Zkk was never going to be on the roof. Kaidos heads coming off in the Flower Capital

Roof or no roof

Don’t go after making Zoro face Kaido… make him go down face King instead of Marco to beat king and then go back for Kaido’s head… it’s bad
So bad
I’m sorry
It’s just bad as fuck

You want ZKK?

You should have made Zoro’s eyes set on Kaido after treatment… and go confront him right alongside Luffy who is gonna head back to Kaido

you don’t throw away Marco vs King fight
And change the fighter… make it Zoro vs the 2nd strongest in enemy group
Beat him easily (while having a time bomb treatment)

and it still lasts for him to go finish Kaido too.. strongest creature in the world

it’s fucked up writing

 

[HA001]

Roof or no roof

Don’t go after making Zoro face Kaido… make him go down face King instead of Marco to beat king and then go back for Kaido’s head… it’s bad
So bad
I’m sorry
It’s just bad as fuck

You want ZKK?

You should have made Zoro’s eyes set on Kaido after treatment… and go confront him right alongside Luffy who is gonna head back to Kaido

you don’t throw away Marco vs King fight
And change the fighter… make it Zoro vs the 2nd strongest in enemy group
Beat him easily (while having a time bomb treatment)

and it still lasts for him to go finish Kaido too.. strongest creature in the world

it’s fucked up writing

Oh I agree on that it's ass
King before kaido made way more sense
I already said that
But it's irrelevant
Kaidos heads coming off above the Flower capital

 

[zzShinichi]

Roof or no roof

Don’t go after making Zoro face Kaido… make him go down face King instead of Marco to beat king and then go back for Kaido’s head… it’s bad
So bad
I’m sorry
It’s just bad as fuck

You want ZKK?

You should have made Zoro’s eyes set on Kaido after treatment… and go confront him right alongside Luffy who is gonna head back to Kaido

you don’t throw away Marco vs King fight
And change the fighter… make it Zoro vs the 2nd strongest in enemy group
Beat him easily (while having a time bomb treatment)

and it still lasts for him to go finish Kaido too.. strongest creature in the world

it’s fucked up writing

Bro, I know it’s bad writting. But Oda has many many more bad writtings before. Did whining about them prevent them from happening? Nuh uh. How many of us thought that Oda is gonna pull a magic senju bean out of his ass to heal Zoro? Its bullshit writting, and yet it still happened

 

[Shasha23]

Not saying how much it lasts doesn’t make it right to just make it active until the end of arc… that’s literally why I’m saying it would be worst writing
Worse than freaking Olin and Kibi Dango which people have complained against
It’s worse on a completely different level of bad…

If that’s how people want to push a Zoro agenda, I’m disappointed cause they literally not anymore care about good story and just want to shove an agenda…

When Zoro was on rooftop before with Luffy I was so fine with Zoro doing ZKK… right there and then with Luffy and co..

but giving him 30 broken bones… only to amount for nothing to have his fight with king with magical treatment that came out of nowhere RKO Randy Orton style… I was like “okay… let it slide, let him have his main arc fight”
He faces king, and not only that but beats him, drug does not wear out… goes to Kaido, fights with Luffy and kills Kaido and THEN the drug magically wakes up!

c’mon it’s so stupid.. no matter how hard an agenda is pushed… it shouldn’t be as stupid as this…
Like literal crap and filth level of writing

What are you on about?
All the fighting can end and Zoro will go down just as the BM pirates arrive and CP-0 goes for Robin or something, there can always be consequences you not seeing it is being close minded.

Why are you soo closeminded and cant even see possibilities, its like you are soo against Zoro doing anything you were probably one of those who said Zoro will never fight Kaido right, or one of those who said cant solo a YC, and probably even said after hakia Zoro will be useless the whole arc.

The more and more i read your comment there more i see you are probably someone who is unti Zoro so ill stop here with you

 

[Blother Fertitta]

That's one of my problems too.

Luffy is still the MC. I doubt if Luffy won't get a 'win' of his own when almost every other straw hat will for eg: Zoro with King, Sanji with Queen, etc. I think ZKK has to happen in a way that doesn't heavily overshadow Luffy. And Zoro does HEAVILY overshadow Luffy going by tag team fight, more so because he'll already have a win in the form of King.

Kaido 1v1 banged Luffy in a fight at the start of Wano. I think Luffy will do the same, even if it's against a nerfed Kaido. But it's possible if Zoro is a support in the tag team, which I honestly don't see Oda doing. If Zoro fights, he won't just be 'support'.


Giving BM permanent amnesia is no big feat. Some rocks probably did it, lol. You make it sound like if it plays out like this it'll make Luffy look superior but it really won't.

Luffy

- Gets fucked by Kaido for 3 rounds
- Doesn't even defeat him in the 4th one and rather his right hand does.
- Doesn't get a 'win' of his own like the rest of this crew. (Zoro with King, Sanji with Queen)
- Defeats Kaido's 4th strongest subordinate.
- Gives BM amnesia.

Zoro

- Fights with Kaido and BM once, gets defeated but is arguably the MVP of the fight.
- Defeats King
- After the King fight, he fights Kaido too along with Luffy to share the final fight with him.
- Kills Kaido, effectively defeating both him and his strongest subordinate.

I call BS. Luffy is gonna get some legendary feat(s) and none of the above on his side do that. Zoro on the other hand heavily overshadows Luffy which I don't see Oda doing at all. No one cares about Meme or her amnesia. It ain't even a direct defeat, lol.

Well Zoro is the superior crewmember in every way

 

[nik87]

It's gonna be interesting if Oda makes it exactly 1 year between when Zoro arrived on the rooftop and killing Kaido.