Questions & Mysteries Correct translation of the databook about Vista vs Mihawk.
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So the databook never said that Kaido and Big Mom do not have a CoO good enough to keep track of Kizaru, right?
Therefore YOUR interpretation are not based on the datas from the VC. So do not say the VC implied that Kizaru > Kaido because it never did that.
See @Sadistic Senpai it is how false informations are spread and attributed to the databooks.
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Therefore YOUR interpretation are not based on the datas from the VC. So do not say the VC implied that Kizaru > Kaido because it never did that.
See @Sadistic Senpai it is how false informations are spread and attributed to the databooks.
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Yes, the manga tells us this. Manga are more canon than vivre card. And if it has yet to showcase the elite CoO from kaido then it remains fact
No kaido needs proficient CoO to keep up, which the manga has yet to showcase for him and his equal. Because it's not
therefore based on this we can conclude kizaru>kaido?
No kaido needs proficient CoO to keep up, which the manga has yet to showcase for him and his equal. Because it's not
therefore based on this we can conclude kizaru>kaido?
Old sick whitebeard win against akainu.whitebeard>akainu..
Marco put kizaru on the ground then kizaru only managed to hurt Marco when Marco only focussing on whitebeard and cuffed.marco>kizaru..
Jozu make aokiji bleed,aokiji freeze him.jozu~aokiji..
Vista eyes on Mihawk while Mihawk eyes on Luffy the fight continue with no name attack,well you can guess what will happen if Mihawk eyes on vista.yet so many dumb can't understand this.btw there's one overated character before timeskip that can only running away from OKAMA even though his fans say he is strong haha.im sure he still not manage to win against OKAMA even after timeskip.probably raid suit will help him
Marco put kizaru on the ground then kizaru only managed to hurt Marco when Marco only focussing on whitebeard and cuffed.marco>kizaru..
Jozu make aokiji bleed,aokiji freeze him.jozu~aokiji..
Vista eyes on Mihawk while Mihawk eyes on Luffy the fight continue with no name attack,well you can guess what will happen if Mihawk eyes on vista.yet so many dumb can't understand this.btw there's one overated character before timeskip that can only running away from OKAMA even though his fans say he is strong haha.im sure he still not manage to win against OKAMA even after timeskip.probably raid suit will help him
Lmao you zoro wankers always make me laugh...
Between Mihawk and DFless BB, who left a visible scar on ''so called swordsman'' Shanks? If Shanks is a swordsman according to you zoro wankers why ''so called swordsman'' Shanks didn't one-shot DFless BB if this hilarious zoro wank logic is true?
Mihawk couldn't even one-shot Crocodile but he is going to one-shot Yami BB?
Mihawk couldn't even one-shot Hakiless East Blue Zoro but he is going to one-shot an already CoA and CoO Haki user Yami BB?
Even MF WB couldn't two-shot Yami BB (MF WB still two-shotted Akainu) but Mihawk will? You think beating Yami BB is same as cutting some huge ice or huge stone?
Mihawk hit Pre-TS Luffy off guard and still couldn't do shit later. Pre-TS Luffy dodged several attacks of Mihawk, he even slam Buggy in front of Mihawk before Mihawk can cut Luffy again.
While Yami BB blitzed Pre-TS Luffy when he started to take him seriously.
Yami BB definitely hurt Pre-TS Luffy more than Kizaru or Mihawk when they hit him. And that was a low fodder type attack from Yami BB, he just slam Luffy into the ground, if he hit with him with CoA, Yami BB would create even more damage. Slamming someone into ground doesn't require any CoA usage, its an invisible armor after all.
Yami BB can separate Mihawk's big ass sword once he blitzes him with darkness then he can put Mihawk's sword back into Mihawk's ass if he wants. Mihawk would end up worse than Zoro ending up with 30 broken bones despite Law and others saving his ass many times. Yami BB was holding back against Ace, and didn't even want to kill him yet he still could break Ace's neck with one-shot while same pre-prime Ace could take shots from Jinbe for 5 days, and even take shots from Yamato and he still kept fighting. Against holding back Yami BB? It was easy.
Mihawk knows that which is why he doesn't even fight Crocodile, let alone Yami BB. He couldn't do shit once he sees Yami BB, yeah ''swordsmen are built different'' Lmao.
The manga never told us that Kaido does not have a CoO good enough to keep track of Kizaru. You are trying to infer thing based on nothing and then want to blame the databook for it.
What the manga actually shown :
-Kaido is able to keep up with and beat a FS user
-Rayleigh is not a FS user
-Rayleigh is able to keep up with Kizaru
So the manga actually shown that Kaido has a
good CoO.
Concerning Big Mom:
-Katakuri is a FS user
-Big Mom is not
-Katakuri said that he could not beat Big Mom
So the manga actually shown that Big Mom has a very good CoO
Based on the actual facts we have we cannot conclude that Kaido and Big Mom do not have a CoWo good enough to keep track of Kizaru.
What the manga actually shown :
-Kaido is able to keep up with and beat a FS user
-Rayleigh is not a FS user
-Rayleigh is able to keep up with Kizaru
So the manga actually shown that Kaido has a
good CoO.
Concerning Big Mom:
-Katakuri is a FS user
-Big Mom is not
-Katakuri said that he could not beat Big Mom
So the manga actually shown that Big Mom has a very good CoO
Based on the actual facts we have we cannot conclude that Kaido and Big Mom do not have a CoWo good enough to keep track of Kizaru.
- VC :
shanks is a swordman
- Manga :
after Zoro learnt how to cut steel he said i got stronger not i got skilled
Yami teach couldn't even deal with shiryu's equal and got low diffed and shiryu who is a swordman is below mihawk
big mom was scared from franky's laser
yami this yami that while he couldn't beat magellan who is shiryu equal
shanks is a swordman
- Manga :
after Zoro learnt how to cut steel he said i got stronger not i got skilled
Yami teach couldn't even deal with shiryu's equal and got low diffed and shiryu who is a swordman is below mihawk
big mom was scared from franky's laser
yami this yami that while he couldn't beat magellan who is shiryu equal
Because he doesn't have "Elite COO" it showed us katakuri having elite CoO though
So all that compares to Kizaru?
Rayleigh has better CoO than mihawk based on manga, so it makes sense he keeps up with kizaru,
Also manga shows us
WSP WB
-Out Reacting Aokiji who tried to sneak attack him on the side in 553
- Keep up with Akainu who also has very good CoO 567, and can sneak-attack the same akainu without his COO noticing, 575
- But get's completely out-speed by kizaru despite being a proficient observation user
So all that compares to Kizaru?
Rayleigh has better CoO than mihawk based on manga, so it makes sense he keeps up with kizaru,
Also manga shows us
WSP WB
-Out Reacting Aokiji who tried to sneak attack him on the side in 553
- Keep up with Akainu who also has very good CoO 567, and can sneak-attack the same akainu without his COO noticing, 575
- But get's completely out-speed by kizaru despite being a proficient observation user
Neither the manga nor the databook never said that he does not have an « elite CoO ».
Yep because Rayleigh’s CoO, from his own admission his inferior to FS user’s CoO. And Rayleigh CoO is good enough to allow him to keep track with Kizaru. Therefore anyone able to keep up with a FS should be able to keep up with Kizaru.
The WB Kizaru outspeed was in a worser shape than the WB Aokiji faced. Kizaru outspeed a WB with a magma hole in his torso.
Yep because Rayleigh’s CoO, from his own admission his inferior to FS user’s CoO. And Rayleigh CoO is good enough to allow him to keep track with Kizaru. Therefore anyone able to keep up with a FS should be able to keep up with Kizaru.
The WB Kizaru outspeed was in a worser shape than the WB Aokiji faced. Kizaru outspeed a WB with a magma hole in his torso.
Lmao you zoro wankers always make me laugh...
Between Mihawk and DFless BB, who left a visible scar on ''so called swordsman'' Shanks? If Shanks is a swordsman according to you zoro wankers why ''so called swordsman'' Shanks didn't one-shot DFless BB if this hilarious zoro wank logic is true?
Mihawk couldn't even one-shot Crocodile but he is going to one-shot Yami BB?
Mihawk couldn't even one-shot Hakiless East Blue Zoro but he is going to one-shot an already CoA and CoO Haki user Yami BB?
Even MF WB couldn't two-shot Yami BB (MF WB still two-shotted Akainu) but Mihawk will? You think beating Yami BB is same as cutting some huge ice or huge stone?
Mihawk hit Pre-TS Luffy off guard and still couldn't do shit later. Pre-TS Luffy dodged several attacks of Mihawk, he even slam Buggy in front of Mihawk before Mihawk can cut Luffy again.
While Yami BB blitzed Pre-TS Luffy when he started to take him seriously.
Yami BB definitely hurt Pre-TS Luffy more than Kizaru or Mihawk when they hit him. And that was a low fodder type attack from Yami BB, he just slam Luffy into the ground, if he hit with him with CoA, Yami BB would create even more damage. Slamming someone into ground doesn't require any CoA usage, its an invisible armor after all.
Yami BB can separate Mihawk's big ass sword once he blitzes him with darkness then he can put Mihawk's sword back into Mihawk's ass if he wants. Mihawk would end up worse than Zoro ending up with 30 broken bones despite Law and others saving his ass many times. Yami BB was holding back against Ace, and didn't even want to kill him yet he still could break Ace's neck with one-shot while same pre-prime Ace could take shots from Jinbe for 5 days, and even take shots from Yamato and he still kept fighting. Against holding back Yami BB? It was easy.
Mihawk knows that which is why he doesn't even fight Crocodile, let alone Yami BB. He couldn't do shit once he sees Yami BB, yeah ''swordsmen are built different'' Lmao.
Just replace Ace's Attack with Mihawk's Huge Slash
Teach would be dead, end of story
Wait timeout, Sorry if you got confused with my wording, I never said the DB said kaido and big mom have poor CoO
But the manga has, big mom has Poor while kaido has average.
Rayleigh has elite CoO, better then mihawk per the manga who's CoO has been hyped. Kaido is fast enough to partially hit a FS user in luffy, who has not been using FS all the time as seen. its not a 24/7 thing
Why does it matter, if the author is still telling us a much worsen shape WB is still the WSP its invalid. also akainu faced a much more weaken WB and still gets hyped for it.
Are you serious? The guy survived a Gura punch from someone stronger then mihawk.
But for mihawk he's dead, when we see people like daz bones get up from mihawk slashes in an instant
But the manga has, big mom has Poor while kaido has average.
Rayleigh has elite CoO, better then mihawk per the manga who's CoO has been hyped. Kaido is fast enough to partially hit a FS user in luffy, who has not been using FS all the time as seen. its not a 24/7 thing
Why does it matter, if the author is still telling us a much worsen shape WB is still the WSP its invalid. also akainu faced a much more weaken WB and still gets hyped for it.
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Are you serious? The guy survived a Gura punch from someone stronger then mihawk.But for mihawk he's dead, when we see people like daz bones get up from mihawk slashes in an instant
The manga never said that Kaido or Big Mom have poor or average CoO.
How this contradict the fact that FS is superior to Rayleigh’s CoO?
For the simple fact that the manga also told us that CoO is not enough to dodge, you need your body to be fast enough. WB was in a weaken state therefore Kizaru out speeding him has nothing to do with WB CoO not being good enough.
How this contradict the fact that FS is superior to Rayleigh’s CoO?
For the simple fact that the manga also told us that CoO is not enough to dodge, you need your body to be fast enough. WB was in a weaken state therefore Kizaru out speeding him has nothing to do with WB CoO not being good enough.