Powers & Abilities Could it be that Zoro actually did go all out in dressrosa? Zoro doesn't know how to use asura
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Interesting read but I gotta say first that your recollection of Thriller Bark events isnt actually true.
Luffy didnt use beat Oars with Nightmare mode and he "didnt have" to use it, it is not something he can use when he wants.
It was a circumstantial power-up unparalleled by any other power Luffy has until today, minus haki itself which could be applied to NM.
Oars was unaffected by everything Nightmare Luffy threw at him, he was defeated later when the entire crew worked together.
Asura wasnt used in Thriller Bark but was used in the very next arc, Sabaody Archipelago and all 3 times it was used it was done willingly.
First time it was used only for a moment to stop Kaku's fiercy Yontoryu onslaught. Right after that, Zoro tells Kaku that it is over for him and pulls a demon spirit and finishes Kaku off. In SA, he tells Sanji to throw PX-4 towards him and pulls a different attack from Asura.
None of it is accidental like you are trying to paint it, Zoro knows exactly what he is doing and he summons it at will.
Now, for your claim of Zoro going all out in DR, you cant possibly know if he did or not. Whether ISDS or Asura attacks have higher destruction capability cannot be said, so far, both Asura attacks have not be used for destruction, however, neither was Sanzen Sekai but its ISDS version is the highest DC Zoro has shown so far. Also, the stone golem has not been something that has shown Zoro's limits. We dont know if the same slashes would cut the Golem if it was 10 times bigger or he would have to use something stronger. We are talking nameless slashes here, swords coated in Hardening and haki flow released.
The more I think about it the more I am convinced that Zoro left Mihawk's training as already a top tier and my old prediction that post TS Zoro is ~70% of Mihawk could indeed be wrong but not in the way people are thinking, he may be 80-90% of Mihawk already.
Once you realize how Oda's storytelling and character progression works it makes perfect sense. If Asura isnt a mode that automatically boosts his base strength and it was already shown to be comparable to top tier, admiral Fujitora Issho while Luffy needed G3 to do anything. Zoro's base strength is already top notch which would make feats of strength used against Zoro scale up a lot, for example, the strength behind the swing of Hawkins' doll, it is probably comparable to the strength behind a swing of the Yonko LinLin.
I will probably make a separate detailed thread why Zoro is already top tier.
Luffy didnt use beat Oars with Nightmare mode and he "didnt have" to use it, it is not something he can use when he wants.
It was a circumstantial power-up unparalleled by any other power Luffy has until today, minus haki itself which could be applied to NM.
Oars was unaffected by everything Nightmare Luffy threw at him, he was defeated later when the entire crew worked together.
Asura wasnt used in Thriller Bark but was used in the very next arc, Sabaody Archipelago and all 3 times it was used it was done willingly.
First time it was used only for a moment to stop Kaku's fiercy Yontoryu onslaught. Right after that, Zoro tells Kaku that it is over for him and pulls a demon spirit and finishes Kaku off. In SA, he tells Sanji to throw PX-4 towards him and pulls a different attack from Asura.
None of it is accidental like you are trying to paint it, Zoro knows exactly what he is doing and he summons it at will.
Now, for your claim of Zoro going all out in DR, you cant possibly know if he did or not. Whether ISDS or Asura attacks have higher destruction capability cannot be said, so far, both Asura attacks have not be used for destruction, however, neither was Sanzen Sekai but its ISDS version is the highest DC Zoro has shown so far. Also, the stone golem has not been something that has shown Zoro's limits. We dont know if the same slashes would cut the Golem if it was 10 times bigger or he would have to use something stronger. We are talking nameless slashes here, swords coated in Hardening and haki flow released.
The more I think about it the more I am convinced that Zoro left Mihawk's training as already a top tier and my old prediction that post TS Zoro is ~70% of Mihawk could indeed be wrong but not in the way people are thinking, he may be 80-90% of Mihawk already.
Once you realize how Oda's storytelling and character progression works it makes perfect sense. If Asura isnt a mode that automatically boosts his base strength and it was already shown to be comparable to top tier, admiral Fujitora Issho while Luffy needed G3 to do anything. Zoro's base strength is already top notch which would make feats of strength used against Zoro scale up a lot, for example, the strength behind the swing of Hawkins' doll, it is probably comparable to the strength behind a swing of the Yonko LinLin.
I will probably make a separate detailed thread why Zoro is already top tier.
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Man those Zoro haters cant clearly comprehend the manga
If Oda doesnt show something it means he hides it for a major event for example Marcos hybrid form or Jacks
Its reserved for major story elements the same with Ashura Zoro was simply too strong he pushed away an admiral with an casual non haki non ashura slash thats more than most whitebeard commanders ever accomplished he casually clashed the second time with Fujitora before Pica did go golem mode
Zoro was way ahead of his opponent's till now
Sanji was instantly shut down by Doffy he couldnt even delay him for more than 30 seconds
If Oda doesnt show something it means he hides it for a major event for example Marcos hybrid form or Jacks
Its reserved for major story elements the same with Ashura Zoro was simply too strong he pushed away an admiral with an casual non haki non ashura slash thats more than most whitebeard commanders ever accomplished he casually clashed the second time with Fujitora before Pica did go golem mode
Zoro was way ahead of his opponent's till now
Sanji was instantly shut down by Doffy he couldnt even delay him for more than 30 seconds
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