Powers & Abilities Cross guild conquerors

[Sir Yasheen]

why should crocodile have coc, he lost his will just because he lost to wb.
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mihawk obviously has coc. zoro has it

Because Crocodile never gave up. He retreated and formulated another plan. Then when that fell, he formulated a third plan.

When Croc had a chance at revenge against whitebeard he took it knowing it would plunge him into hell.

Finally when WB was weakened, Croc was the one who spoke up and called him out for being weak.

Croc has the perfect track record for a conqueror.

 

[Albino 👑]

"it might help his chances"

mihawk obviously has coc. zoro has it

Zoro having it is undeniably a big reason people think mihawk should

buggy shoul/would have a gag coc moment where people faint but not due to his coc (probably someone else or something) and he would be given the credit

Buggy having conquerors would be really cool for him and funny but that’s probably more likely.
Plus him getting it is probably a bit too much and might open up the gates too much. Like if buggy can then what’s stopping vivi from getting it. At the same time even then I wouldn’t be too too mad tbh but that’s me

 

[Moegara]

Zoro having it is undeniably a big reason people think mihawk should

Anyone with two braincells has always known way before Onigashima. Only thing it has affected is your copium dosage.

 

[Albino 👑]

Anyone with two braincells has always known way before Onigashima. Only thing it has affected is your copium dosage.

What about buggy and crocodile
Mihawk having conquerors means crocodile was able to become equal partners with one and that buggy was able to have one follow him

 

[Moegara]

What about buggy and crocodile
Mihawk having conquerors means crocodile was able to become equal partners with one and that buggy was able to have one follow him

Ah, yes, "Mihawk has better chances because of Zoro" (instead of the obvious 100% chance he has because he's a top tier), but "Crocodile definitely probably has it since he's "on equal standing" as Mihawk (who supposedly may not have it according to you in the first place)".

1- Crocodile is smart.
2- Mihawk clearly likes him to have gone along with it to create Cross Guild.
3- Crocodile is somewhat strong.

That's what makes him be "on equal ground"... yet none of those are reasons for him to have CoC. However, there are some reasons why he likely doesn't have it.

1- Crocodile has never been portrayed as a top tier at any point of his entire career. In fact, he was a weakling pre-TS by current standards. His strength will have been boosted no doubt but there's still a gap between YCs (where he likely stands) and top tiers.
2- The guy forgot even his basic forms of haki originally, if he ever had it before then, and focused solely on his DF. Not something a conqueror would do with his haki.
3- Had a good opportunity to show it on Marineford. For example, Luffy stopped the execution with a rookie CoC shockwave, yet Crocodile used a sand attack as usual for the literal same outcome. As usual, focused on his DF.
4- Thought Mihawk would be the Yonko and was surprised he didn't want the title. He never suggested becoming the Yonko himself and immediately went along with Mihawk's suggestion despite how angry at Buggy he was.

Buggy may have CoC but he has shown literally nothing to claim he has it. Between gags and flukes he made Mihawk "a subordinate" (which we know isn't even the case): does that make him as strong as Mihawk? Does that make him as fast as Mihawk? Does that make him as skilled with the sword as Mihawk? Does that make him have Mihawk's haki? No. Same thing for Crocodile being his partner, nothing about it elevates them to him power-wise.



Why did I bother making such a long post when your only argument is "they are his partners so obviously they should have the same power as him", while also still questioning Mihawk as a top tier. Too much effort on my part for such a low effort bait.
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And of course you made a poll and voted None. Get out of here.

 

[Albino 👑]

Ah, yes, "Mihawk has better chances because of Zoro" (instead of the obvious 100% chance he has because he's a top tier), but "Crocodile definitely probably has it since he's "on equal standing" as Mihawk (who supposedly may not have it according to you in the first place)".

1- Crocodile is smart.
2- Mihawk clearly likes him to have gone along with it to create Cross Guild.
3- Crocodile is somewhat strong.

That's what makes him be "on equal ground"... yet none of those are reasons for him to have CoC. However, there are some reasons why he likely doesn't have it.

1- Crocodile has never been portrayed as a top tier at any point of his entire career. In fact, he was a weakling pre-TS by current standards. His strength will have been boosted no doubt but there's still a gap between YCs (where he likely stands) and top tiers.
2- The guy forgot even his basic forms of haki originally, if he ever had it before then, and focused solely on his DF. Not something a conqueror would do with his haki.
3- Had a good opportunity to show it on Marineford. For example, Luffy stopped the execution with a rookie CoC shockwave, yet Crocodile used a sand attack as usual for the literal same outcome. As usual, focused on his DF.
4- Thought Mihawk would be the Yonko and was surprised he didn't want the title. He never suggested becoming the Yonko himself and immediately went along with Mihawk's suggestion despite how angry at Buggy he was.

Buggy may have CoC but he has shown literally nothing to claim he has it. Between gags and flukes he made Mihawk "a subordinate" (which we know isn't even the case): does that make him as strong as Mihawk? Does that make him as fast as Mihawk? Does that make him as skilled with the sword as Mihawk? Does that make him have Mihawk's haki? No. Same thing for Crocodile being his partner, nothing about it elevates them to him power-wise.



Why did I bother making such a long post when your only argument is "they are his partners so obviously they should have the same power as him", while also still questioning Mihawk as a top tier. Too much effort on my part for such a low effort bait.
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And of course you made a poll and voted None. Get out of here.

I don’t think being a top tier is a reason to have conquerors. I don’t think the admirals all have it just because they’re strong

Crocodile and mihawk saw each others as equals it had nothing to do with them being comparable in strength but in contribution to cross guild
Buggy will get mihawk and crocodile to help him go after the one piece. He has the greatest power

You’re focusing too much on strength when that was never a reason why I said any of them or anyone in general should have conquerors

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

crocodile No shot imo
Mihawk strong chance
Buggy strong chance

 

[Albino 👑]

crocodile No shot imo
Mihawk strong chance
Buggy strong chance

Tbf to crocodile it’s like he necessarily doesn’t have the same qualities as the rest of the conquerors and he’s definitely an ambitious person in his own right

At the same time if we’re being completely honest there really isn’t a set type of personality traits or qualities that you 100% need and they all share
Like him having it in a way makes sense but at the same time I doubt he does

 

[Moegara]

I don’t think being a top tier is a reason to have conquerors. I don’t think the admirals all have it just because they’re strong

Crocodile and mihawk saw each others as equals it had nothing to do with them being comparable in strength but in contribution to cross guild
Buggy will get mihawk and crocodile to help him go after the one piece. He has the greatest power

You’re focusing too much on strength when that was never a reason why I said any of them or anyone in general should have conquerors

I don't care that's never a reason why you said anything: being a top tier that fights solely with a sword is a solid reason to have aCoC.

If CoC was what it was pre-TS, then it wouldn't matter, but it's much more than that now that we know about aCoC. Now it's a power level argument, and you're smart enough to know that.

Without aCoC, Mihawk's simply not possibly up there. This is basic stuff, and you know it. The admirals are not confirmed to not have CoC, and it would be lame if they really don't, but they have overpowered fruits in their toolset, something characters like Mihawk, Shanks, Roger or Rayleigh don't. CoC is a literal must for these guys.

Being comparable in contribution to Cross Guild and not in strength, like you have just said, isn't a factor to have CoC. If that is your only point, then they don't.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Tbf to crocodile it’s like he necessarily doesn’t have the same qualities as the rest of the conquerors and he’s definitely an ambitious person in his own right

At the same time if we’re being completely honest there really isn’t a set type of personality traits or qualities that you 100% need and they all share
Like him having it in a way makes sense but at the same time I doubt he does

I dont thinks its necessary for him
he posesses a logia
more of a personal opinion rather than based on any evidence fyi . I think he may be awakened.


for buggy he clearly attracts followers almost in the manner luffy does
and he certainly seems ambitious
a bit like usopp but him having conquerors is a shout.

 

[Albino 👑]

I don't care that's never a reason why you said anything: being a top tier that fights solely with a sword is a solid reason to have aCoC.

If CoC was what it was pre-TS, then it wouldn't matter, but it's much more than that now that we know about aCoC. Now it's a power level argument, and you're smart enough to know that.

Without aCoC, Mihawk's simply not possibly up there. This is basic stuff, and you know it. The admirals are not confirmed to not have CoC, and it would be lame if they really don't, but they have overpowered fruits in their toolset, something characters like Mihawk, Shanks, Roger or Rayleigh don't. CoC is a literal must for these guys.

Being comparable in contribution to Cross Guild and not in strength, like you have just said, isn't a factor to have CoC. If that is your only point, then they don't.

And you can believe that
That doesn’t mean I have to agree. Again I don’t even think all the admirals are conquerors anymore despite being the very top of the marines.

Conquerors coating doesn’t change the discussion. It existing doesn’t change the fact that having conquerors isn’t strictly related to strength

Idk maybe mihawk has something else

Being seen as equals with a conquerors or above one is still a pretty big deal

I dont thinks its necessary for him
he posesses a logia
more of a personal opinion rather than based on any evidence fyi . I think he may be awakened.


for buggy he clearly attracts followers almost in the manner luffy does
and he certainly seems ambitious
a bit like usopp but him having conquerors is a shout.

I don’t think he necessarily needs it. I just mean that him having it wouldn’t necessarily be unfitting like I could see an argument why he should making sense.
He having conquerors doesn’t mean he’ll have coating. So it doesn’t necessarily to to boost or effect his other abilities

I can also see buggy having conquerors making sense in a way but it’d definitely open up the gates even more imo to even non combatants. I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing but just like the other 2 I can see good arguments as to why they should have it but I’m not 100% convinced yet

 

[AlmightyGunther43]

Buggy, Crocodile, and Mohawk ALL have conqueror's Haki already. I'm the only person to think this, but I doubt any rational reader really thinks Buggy, for example, will not get it.

In other words, I'm saying anyone who believes Buggy won't get it at some point is probably arguing from an emotional standpoint. It would be, from my perspective, strange if he didn't.
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I think it's fairly obvious that most people's expectations of this series are going to be unfulfilled. Many predictions will be wrong.

Luffy's G5 Awakening was something that was intended to prove that.

 

[JoNdule]

why should crocodile have coc, he lost his will just because he lost to wb.
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mihawk obviously has coc. zoro has it

You don't get CoC or any ability coz someone else has it
With that logic, BM should have fs because her son, katakuri has it

Mihawk hasn't shown conqueror traits even
He doesnt wanna lead at all, he simply prefers being a lone wolf more
He doesn't attract people
He always serving under an organisation for protection

Until Mihawj shows CoC, I'm not believing he has it

Buggy at least has charisma on the same level as Luffy, and others

 

[Thaidakar]

Croc is the definition of CoC. Though, his expertise isn't fully on his strength. He's a mastermind tactician and businessman. So only basic CoC for him. He's quite intimidating for people around him too.

To reach the absolute peak in the op world (strength wise) you need CoC. And mihawk is there. Since the start of the series. You don't gain the respect of at least two yonko and the entire WG simply for being able to skillfully swing a sword. Shanks and mihawk will display CoC applications in a way we never have seen.

 

[Tai long]

Because Crocodile never gave up. He retreated and formulated another plan. Then when that fell, he formulated a third plan.

When Croc had a chance at revenge against whitebeard he took it knowing it would plunge him into hell.

Finally when WB was weakened, Croc was the one who spoke up and called him out for being weak.

Croc has the perfect track record for a conqueror.

there is no narrative for crocodile to have coc, he is not fighting anyone of importance, so oda would probably not give it to him.

 

[CbShadow]

Mihawk has CoC. He is a conqueror of swordsman.

Mihawk was willing to go after and face the marines to prove he's the strongest. Not even Yonko go after marines.

 

[nik87]

Since there is evidence that all 3 triggers among Luffy, Nami and Zoro have CoC, why shouldnt all 3 triggers in CG have it as well?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

there is no narrative for crocodile to have coc, he is not fighting anyone of importance, so oda would probably not give it to him.

What’s the narrative for Sengoku to have it? Kid?

 

[Tai long]

What’s the narrative for Sengoku to have it? Kid?

Oda can give random people coc for all we know so the chances of croc getting coc is the same as sanjis. Can they yea if oda wants, would they probably not

 

[GeneralP123]

The only one that doesn't piss his pants when fighting a Yonko is mentioned, that would be Buggy.