Powers & Abilities Definitive proof that Kuzan was using aCoC against Garp.
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I feel like Kaido was holding back in order to not destroy his entire castle...
Let's analyze this: When Kaido defeated Luffy in Chapter 1014, he complains about the mess that Big Mom caused and the large hole she opened up by using Hera.
Later on, after using a Ragnarok and causing massive destruction, Kaido laments the devastation and his inability to leave the island and the castle intact.
And lastly, we know that even in his base form, Kaido has enough physical strength to easily destroy the castle by creating a huge hole at the top of Onigashima and send two of his subordinates flying at extreme speeds, all with just one hand.
Imo, Kaido was restraining himself during parts of the fight, even physically, due to the castle and the island, and that makes a lot of sense based on the evidence shown.
That said, no kidding, Kaido is easily physically stronger than Garp. LMAO
Let's analyze this: When Kaido defeated Luffy in Chapter 1014, he complains about the mess that Big Mom caused and the large hole she opened up by using Hera.
Later on, after using a Ragnarok and causing massive destruction, Kaido laments the devastation and his inability to leave the island and the castle intact.
And lastly, we know that even in his base form, Kaido has enough physical strength to easily destroy the castle by creating a huge hole at the top of Onigashima and send two of his subordinates flying at extreme speeds, all with just one hand.
Imo, Kaido was restraining himself during parts of the fight, even physically, due to the castle and the island, and that makes a lot of sense based on the evidence shown.
That said, no kidding, Kaido is easily physically stronger than Garp. LMAO
Garp only complaines about how weak he's gotten but lemme give an example of what I mean:
DR Luffy's KKG is a top tier attack, and the only top tier attack Luffy's got. However, he can't land that move without specific circumstances due to how slow it looks. Garp on the other hand can throw out Galaxy Impact at any moment.
Buzz Cut Mochi is Katakuri's only top tier move and it's not a move he can land often from what we've seen. Garp's Blue Hole can be done casually and whenever.
DR Luffy's KKG is a top tier attack, and the only top tier attack Luffy's got. However, he can't land that move without specific circumstances due to how slow it looks. Garp on the other hand can throw out Galaxy Impact at any moment.
Buzz Cut Mochi is Katakuri's only top tier move and it's not a move he can land often from what we've seen. Garp's Blue Hole can be done casually and whenever.
Somewhat a crackhead theory. We know logias store near infinite amounts of energy in their bodies, and they keep spamming it for long durations. What if an awakened logia can make use of this power and burst it out along with their attacks like Kuzan did with Ice Glove
That certainly sounds much cooler than ACoC
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That certainly sounds much cooler than ACoC
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I mean, Aokiji's power is cold/freezing. That shouldn't really amplify his hits. He could I guess freeze the opponent upon contact like with ice time. Just like Akainu melts through his opponents with his ice.
Aokiji's DF actually goes well with Haki. How about infusing an ice spear with ice, impale Garp and freeze him from the inside out?
Aokiji's DF actually goes well with Haki. How about infusing an ice spear with ice, impale Garp and freeze him from the inside out?
You mean this
It seems like his hand itself turned magma while Kuzan coated his hand with ice. There was no shockwave when he made contact
Purely magma
It seems like his hand itself turned magma while Kuzan coated his hand with ice. There was no shockwave when he made contact
Purely magma
Look at the buildup around his shoulders.
I'm talking about the explosive force behind his attacks.
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I mean why not? Think of him using his element like this
Ice can already be naturally hard, now a (honed to perfection) fist reinforced by ice, then a fist reinforced by ice with top tier CoA ontop of that? That can make for some insanely hard hitting punches.
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I’m not too invested in him having CoC. He’s able to more than match Garp. If it somehow ends up being df-related, no sweat off my back, though I don’t see it.
And baby steps.
lots of yonko fans are willing to accept that Akainu is the real deal. Now Kuzan is being given some credit. That’s 2/3 of the originals. Uncle Kizaru will have his day too.
And baby steps.
lots of yonko fans are willing to accept that Akainu is the real deal. Now Kuzan is being given some credit. That’s 2/3 of the originals. Uncle Kizaru will have his day too.
We are going to go over all the different type if lightning haki streaks that Oda has drawn in his manga
1) CoA streaks
-CoA streaks are characterized by two things, they are very thin and they are not very long.
-We have never seen CoA lightning being projected far away in the distance as a result of a clash or impact
Different examples of CoA streaks
2) Base CoC streaks
-Base CoC streaks are the result of two CoC users clashing with each other
-They are just as thin as CoA streaks but unlike CoA streaks they always end up being projected far away in the distance
Different examples of CoC streaks
3) ACoC streaks
-aCoC streaks are both much thicker than CoA streaks and can affect an area just as large as CoC streaks
Different examples of aCoC streaks
4) The trail and sfx
-While it is true that Oda has often used a haki trail before the attack connects and the zap sfx to depict aCoC, it is completely false that you cant use aCoC without it being shown.
-Likewise a trail before the attack and the zap sfx doesn't always indicate use of aCoC
5) What about Kuzan then?
-Kuzan definitely used aCoC because as we can clearly see in his exchange with Garp, the haki streaks are both thick in the same fashion as the aCoC ones and are being projected into the sky even causing an explosion
Take also a look at Kuzan's fist, it is black and clearly coated in haki yet in the panel where he uses Ice Glove his fist is completely white
This indicates Kuzan hadn't even started coating his fist with haki at that point which debunks even further the argument that it isn't aCoC because we don't see a trail.
1) CoA streaks
-CoA streaks are characterized by two things, they are very thin and they are not very long.
-We have never seen CoA lightning being projected far away in the distance as a result of a clash or impact
Different examples of CoA streaks
2) Base CoC streaks
-Base CoC streaks are the result of two CoC users clashing with each other
-They are just as thin as CoA streaks but unlike CoA streaks they always end up being projected far away in the distance
Different examples of CoC streaks
3) ACoC streaks
-aCoC streaks are both much thicker than CoA streaks and can affect an area just as large as CoC streaks
Different examples of aCoC streaks
4) The trail and sfx
-While it is true that Oda has often used a haki trail before the attack connects and the zap sfx to depict aCoC, it is completely false that you cant use aCoC without it being shown.
-Likewise a trail before the attack and the zap sfx doesn't always indicate use of aCoC
5) What about Kuzan then?
-Kuzan definitely used aCoC because as we can clearly see in his exchange with Garp, the haki streaks are both thick in the same fashion as the aCoC ones and are being projected into the sky even causing an explosion
Take also a look at Kuzan's fist, it is black and clearly coated in haki yet in the panel where he uses Ice Glove his fist is completely white
Your point would be stronger if you add the circular waves pattern to the Haki trails.. Both exhibited by Shanks and Garp Aokiji clash..
3 circular waves
Also you're missing the fact that you can flow Haki in abilities such as Ice, Fire, Light, etc..
Ice Glove is him charging Haki with Ice..
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Lol, talk about twisting words and adding headcannon.
Where is the trail of Aokiji? He is using his df powers no adv coc trail.
Adv coc trails: Trails is the surrounding advCoC Lightening around the hands\weapon like the following.
Shanks:
Luffy:
Kaido:
GARP:
Big mom used it too but i don't have time.
Anyone who believes what Aokiji used is advCoC must be ashamed of their intelligence and should drop one piece. Biggest asscannon ever.
Where is the trail of Aokiji? He is using his df powers no adv coc trail.
Adv coc trails: Trails is the surrounding advCoC Lightening around the hands\weapon like the following.
Shanks:
Luffy:
Kaido:
GARP:
Big mom used it too but i don't have time.
Anyone who believes what Aokiji used is advCoC must be ashamed of their intelligence and should drop one piece. Biggest asscannon ever.
