Character Discussion Do you really think Luffy's real rival is Kid?

#61
maybe ....

I once liked kidd but Oda did him dirty

he don't seems like Luffy's equal AT ALL and I don't expect gap get smaller


Luffy rival to me is Teach NO OTHER after him
Wrong.

1. Kidd is luffys direct rival. Oda said when he created kidd he knew he would be important. He gives Kidd “unnecessary plot points” meaning he gives Kidd a lot of plot points to connect to because he is clearly important like kaido big mom shanks.

2. Blackbeard’s rival is shanks. Blackbeard doesn’t consider luffy his rival
 
#62
Whitebeard = Roger's Rival

Xebec = Roger's Arch Nemesis

Kid = Luffy's Rival

Blackbeard = Luffy's Arch Nemesis

You think Oda made a Member of the Worst Generation and designed him exactly like Shanks, without just reason? Red hair, missing left arm, scar on the left side of his face, going down his eye. Ironically enough, someone in the Red Haired Pirates is also the one who made Kid that way.
 
#65
Hody is more of a rival to Luffy because at least they had an actual fight for something important. Not this pishy tsundere “watch me guys, honestly, I’m the main figure in this fight” nonsense that Kid has been coming out with being backup to Luffy.

And tbh Killer aside Hody’s crew would put up as much of a fight against the Strawhats as Kid’s would. More, probably, can’t see Sanji and Jinbei teaming up to fight Heat or Wire like they did Wadatsumi.
 
#66
Whitebeard = Roger's Rival

Xebec = Roger's Arch Nemesis

Kid = Luffy's Rival

Blackbeard = Luffy's Arch Nemesis

You think Oda made a Member of the Worst Generation and designed him exactly like Shanks, without just reason? Red hair, missing left arm, scar on the left side of his face, going down his eye. Ironically enough, someone in the Red Haired Pirates is also the one who made Kid that way.
Why do you say Xebec was Roger's enemy? Sengoku, however, said it was his biggest rival, right?
 
#72
There is no true rival. Blackbeard doesn’t even consider luffy his rival and luffy didn’t give two shits about Blackbeard when he was name dropped
Don't you remember when Luffy met Teach in ID? Or even when they met in Jaya, you could see that they had different opinions and they had a kind of rivalry.

Kid doesn't have any of that. I think at the end of Wano they will be a bit friends and even Kid will look up to Luffy.
 
#75
Don't you remember when Luffy met Teach in ID? Or even when they met in Jaya, you could see that they had different opinions and they had a kind of rivalry.

Kid doesn't have any of that. I think at the end of Wano they will be a bit friends and even Kid will look up to Luffy.
Jaya? So lemme guess you ignore every single parallel between luffy and Kidd and act like it doesn’t exists or oda saying kidd will be important off some headcanon.

why would kidd look up to luffy? What type of story are you reading?
 
#77
Jaya? So lemme guess you ignore every single parallel between luffy and Kidd and act like it doesn’t exists or oda saying kidd will be important off some headcanon.

why would kidd look up to luffy? What type of story are you reading?
Oda said Kid would be important, nothing more. He didn't say he would be Luffy's rival or anything like that.

And between two rivals, many times the weaker one (Kid) admires the stronger one (Luffy) and that's why he wants to surpass him.
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Its BB, but Kidd is going to be somewhat of a rival yes.

He was the only planned SN out of the bunch, has CoC and has a SN under him(just like Luffy).
Kid was not planned. All the SN were created at the same time, just before their introduction chapter.

 
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#78
So many people who don’t know how to read saying Luffy and Kidd aren’t rivals lol.
“BlAcK BeArD iS His oNlY RiVAl”.
Sure that’s why Oda gave Luffy and Kidd the same dream, has them argue and compete all the time, singles out those two out of the Supernova on multiple occasions (CoC, supernova vice captain, challenging multiple yonko, ect), and has written 100 parallels between them.

Everyone saying “Luffy is way stronger than Kidd” needs to realize that what they are stating is headcanon that has not been proven my the manga. Once they realize that they will be much less surprised by the end of Wano. It is much more likely going off how Kidd has been portrayed thus far that he will be somewhat close to Luffy in strength. On the other hand Blackbeard is pretty much confirmed to be tiers above Luffy and has shown that he doesn’t give a shit about Luffy and yet they are “rivals”. Ok lol
 
#80
So many people who don’t know how to read saying Luffy and Kidd aren’t rivals lol.
“BlAcK BeArD iS His oNlY RiVAl”.
Sure that’s why Oda gave Luffy and Kidd the same dream, has them argue and compete all the time, singles out those two out of the Supernova on multiple occasions (CoC, supernova vice captain, challenging multiple yonko, ect), and has written 100 parallels between them.

Everyone saying “Luffy is way stronger than Kidd” needs to realize that what they are stating is headcanon that has not been proven my the manga. Once they realize that they will be much less surprised by the end of Wano. It is much more likely going off how Kidd has been portrayed thus far that he will be somewhat close to Luffy in strength. On the other hand Blackbeard is pretty much confirmed to be tiers above Luffy and has shown that he doesn’t give a shit about Luffy and yet they are “rivals”. Ok lol
I think Kid's rivalry with Luffy will only be present to Wano I think he will realize the big lead Luffy has over him during the fight against Kaido.

I no longer find too much interest in setting up a forced rivalry when Luffy will always be on top no matter what.
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Everyone who wants One Piece is Luffy's rivals. Since it's the same goal It doesn't necessarily mean that they have to have the same strength. Kid and Law are Luffy's rivals but they're not as strong as him. The one who has the most similarities and differences with Luffy is Blackbeard. I will add a little more to what I said in my introduction, I had forgotten a few things. Luffy and Blackbeard are the most rising pirates, especially after Marine Ford. They have been talked about even though Blackbeard is ahead of Luffy. The Gorosei did say that its members holding the letter D are very disturbing because they do a lot of talking We also learn that Blackbeard defeated Marco during a war at the top. Right after Luffy beat Doflamingo, who was the talk of the party again? It's Blackbeard in relation to the conflict with Baltigo Each time Luffy and Blackbeard are talked about. I forgot to mention Im who coincidentally tore up the posters of the 2 pirates who just talk every time and who are both D.

Luffy and Blackbeard Always these 2 there I think Blackbeard is ahead of Luffy for now because he has become Yonko.

It has much more power at the moment. But I think Luffy will catch up with him a bit after beating Kaido. I think for the poneglyphs they are tied.

Blackbeard surely must have a way of reading poneglyphs he is way too smart and he has too much experience Supernovas are rivals of Luffy despite the latter being much stronger than them and they will not be able to catch up with him at this point in the story.

Blackbeard is Luffy's rival despite Luffy being late. Yet Luffy will surely catch up with him and overtake him very soon, we are fast approaching the end of the manga
 
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