Character Discussion Do Zoro and Sanji have the same level?

[Erkan12]

Katakuri doesn't get jealous over any sweet commander

How many times they need to show Sanji > Zoro?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

K

More like Queen whos close to King and quite a bit above Jack, than like Smoothie who's a meme close to Cracker.

King isnt bit strong than queen for this reason he's gonna fight against sanji

 

[HA001]

In terms of ability to cut shit.

It's like how Katakuri has CoO levels above Zoro, that doesn't mean Zoro is going to be trash compared to him overall.

Kidd killer luffy etc dont have the ability to cut shit like that they are still fighting.
Surely zoros equal would also do so.

 

[Chrono]

1)luffy was fight against craker and army, and he didnt want to fight against sanji
2)what
3) king doesn't recognize sanji

1.) Luffy was far more injured during the Katakuri fight...and still didnt faint. Luffy never wanted to fight Sanji but he also never wanted to faint either. Both Sanji and Katakuri landed free hits....Katakuri landed far more. Couldnt do as much as Sanji did.

2.) Is that your best response ? Oven is confirmed more durable than Katakuri and Sanji cracked his collarbone.

3.) Why are you talking about recognising ? Im talking about the feat.

Whats with these piss poor replies.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Overall in 1 vs 1 fight Sanji loses.

He does.

Aokiji lost to Akainu tho and that sure did not prevent him from being on the same level of strength

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Kidd killer luffy etc dont have the ability to cut shit like that they are still fighting.
Surely zoros equal would also do so.

I'm not sure who Killer is going to fight and how much damage he is going to cause.

I mean we had Raizo fight Kaido, taking part in that fight is no benchmark to put one leagues above Sanji

 

[Chrono]

are you honestly trying to act like this was a feat? Sanji kicking a defenseless Luffy in the head with all that hes got. I mean, really????

then I guess its settled.
Zoro can take out Sanji in 1 hit with a casual blow from nothing more than his swords hilt.
before you try to tell us that Sanji was already injured, well, so was Zoro. he was not at full power either. they were both ~equally mangled and Zoro one shot Sanji with a blunt attack.

Zoro is stronger than Sanji by a large margin and there is not much you can do about that except accepting it and move on.
not worth fighting a battle you can never win.
:cheers:

Its a feat since both Katakuri and Sanji landed clean hits on his body. And Luffy never wanted to faint to either of them. Yet he did to Sanji.

So you're saying you lose power when you're more injured ? So characters dont pull out their most strongest attacks when theyre extremely injured ?

No he's not. He maybe close to base Sanji....but not RS Sanji.

 

[Formerly Seth]

He does.

Aokiji lost to Akainu tho and that sure did not prevent him from being on the same level of strength

Sanji will never be close as some say to Zoro again after this arc.

Sanji is a fighter out of need.

 

[Erkan12]

Judge's son > Luffy's swordsman.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

1.) Luffy was far more injured during the Katakuri fight...and still didnt faint. Luffy never wanted to fight Sanji but he also never wanted to faint either. Both Sanji and Katakuri landed free hits....Katakuri landed far more. Couldnt do as much as Sanji did.

2.) Is that your best response ? Oven is confirmed more durable than Katakuri and Sanji cracked his collarbone.

3.) Why are you talking about recognising ? Im talking about the feat.

Whats with these piss poor replies.

1) sanji was uses all his power for stopping luffy and he only do the same than appo
2) Please Oven. Oven is weak than page one and another level than Hawkins, Kill and appo
3) he only uses simple attack because he thinks it's only fodder

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Sanji will never be close as some say to Zoro again after this arc.

Sanji is a fighter out of need.

So was Whitebeard. Man never wanted shit but a family around him, but needed to be strong to get it.

Same is Big Mom really, she's looking for her utopia and she cares about food.

Combat driven goals are never established in the manga to be the end all be all of who can be strong and how strong someone can get.

It's mostly just arguments pushed by the Zoro fan base when they run out of anything else.

 

[Chrono]

1) sanji was uses all his power for stopping luffy and he only do the same than appo
2) Please Oven. Oven is weak than page one and another level than Hawkins, Kill and appo
3) he only uses simple attack because he thinks it's only fodder

1.) Katakuri used hos strongest attack and couldnt KO Luffy first time. Apoo is alsohad higher AP than Katakuri and Zoro lol

2.) Yet Oven is more durable than Katakuri. Can you read ?

3.) Yet Luffy hyped it up and was shocked.

 

[Formerly Seth]

So was Whitebeard. Man never wanted shit but a family around him, but needed to be strong to get it.

Same is Big Mom really, she's looking for her utopia and she cares about food.

Combat driven goals are never established in the manga to be the end all be all of who can be strong and how strong someone can get.

That's mostly just arguments pushed by the Zoro fan base when they run out of anything else.

Hierarchy in SH's was established from the beginning and it will never change.

This is not pre time skip where Sanji can block sword with his legs because no one uses Haki.

Luffy cap
Zoro yc1
Sanji yc2
JInbe yc3

 

[Kromage911]

Power-wise? Never was and never will be.

Character wise? Maybe sometimes before time skip.

Power-wise?
I agree with you.

Character-wise?
Nah, at least not for me. I mean if you like characters that don't have any flaw in them and can be called 'perfect' in every way, then yes. But I personally don't like one-dimensional characters. Zoro has all the 'good' characteristics that a man need- Hard-working, loyalty, strength, being freaking badass etc and as far as I remember, has no major flaws as a person.

Whereas Sanji is someone that is a good combo of both, strengths and flaws, at least according to me. Zoro is the ideal person whereas Sanji is a better manga character, the way I see it. I love both tbh. Obviously, you don't need to agree with me. I was just sharing my personal opinion.

 

[Erkan12]

Imagine Scopper Gaban making fun of Rayleigh like this about bounty;

It would never happen.

Sanji owned Zoro.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

I think a better question would be do Luffy and Zoro have the same level ?

 

[Formerly Seth]

I think a better question would be do Luffy and Zoro have the same level ?

Fight with Kaido will show.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Hierarchy in SH's was established from the beginning and it will never change.

This is not pre time skip where Sanji can block sword with his legs because no one uses Haki.

Luffy cap
Zoro yc1
Sanji yc2
JInbe yc3

Luffy captain

Zoro and Sanji Right and Left hand men

Mid level combatants

Low level combatants

It's funny how Zoro fans actually debunk their

"Zoro must be way stronger because of his goal and constant training"

when they try to shit on Sanji for getting a Raid suit that makes Sanji stronger without training, and can be upgraded independent of Sanji's own growth.

But they want to have it both ways obviously

The Raid Suit is Oda's way of saying :

"Look guys, i want Sanji to still be up there. Didn't really make sense for him to be up there without a push, so here you go"

Now you can continue to argue that Zoro get's to be on another level than Sanji. Without the Raid Suit that is.

 

[HA001]

Luffy captain

Zoro and Sanji Right and Left hand men
Mid level combatants

Low level combatants

It's funny how Zoro fans actually debunk their

"Zoro must be way stronger because of his goal and constant training"

when they try to shit on Sanji for getting a Raid suit that makes Sanji stronger without training, and can be upgraded independent of Sanji's own growth.

But they want to have it both ways obviously

The Raid Suit is Oda's way of saying :

"Look guys, i want Sanji to still be up there. Didn't really make sense for him to be up there without a push, so here you go"

Now you can continue to argue that Zoro get's to be on another level than Sanji. Without the Raid Suit that is.

Then whys he not gonna fight kaido with that rs ?
Why were luffy and zoro the only ones shown training for the raid.
Why did he have luffy and zoro split up and aim for kaido yet sanji and jinbe to baby sit luffy to the top.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

I think a better question would be do Luffy and Zoro have the same level ?

It's not like we haven't seen dumbass claims that Zoro is even stronger than his captain and has been for the whole time skip

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Then whys he not gonna fight kaido with that rs ?
Why were luffy and zoro the only ones shown training for the raid.
Why did he have luffy and zoro split up and aim for kaido yet sanji and jinbe to baby sit luffy to the top.

Why was Zoro not even in WCI at all ?

 

[Finalbeta]

This thread looks no different than Zoro v Sanji to me.

Not sure what's you guys' opinion.