Powers & Abilities Does Kaido or Big Mom have Ryuo or what?

#66
I'm talking about this chapter. He is using advcoa with acoc while luffy is using acoc and his coa too.

Yamato has shown barrier haki too, who do you think taught her?
i thought you said kaido have strong armament hardening, which is at block mochi level, armament flow aka ACoA is a different matter

kaido, luffy and big mom all of them have the same skill set so far

i don't think yamato knows how to use the flow, after all she wasn't able to destroy her handcuffs
 
#67
i thought you said kaido have strong armament hardening, which is at block mochi level, armament flow aka ACoA is a different matter

kaido, luffy and big mom all of them have the same skill set so far

i don't think yamato knows how to use the flow, after all she wasn't able to destroy her handcuffs
She doesn't have the flow but she has barrier haki,

I guess we were discussing different things.
 
#68
Can Oda himself differentiate between the distinctive attributes of internal destruction and CoC coating?
internal destruction is CoC
when luffy destroyed the collars hyou thought to himself that he can't teach that ability to luffy, it's beyond what he can teach
then he said to luffy: the haki you wield meaning that he himself don't have it
the only defrence between hyogoro and luffy is that hyogoro is not a conqueror hence why he can't use internal destruction
 
#73
@draganax
This isnt true. Are you saying that Luffy was using CoC before this fight with kaido?

Why didnt Luffy know that’s what he was doing then?
because he didn't understand how he was using it
hyougoro only knows the concept behind it

he doesn't know how to teach that ability because he doesn't have the required type of haki, only luffy has it which is CoC


he told luffy to keep doing it while he remembers how he did it the first time, so he can get used to it

luffy used it again to break yamato's cuffs, he needed to concentrate/deep focus

he still doesn't understand how it works so he does it out of memory
the same way zoro was using iai shishi sonson/rashomon, he doesn't understand that what he did was haki but he was capable of doing it from remembering the feeling of being close to death



that's how luffy was able to do it before understanding how it works
he was fighting kaido aside from the red rock attack he was mostly using regular ACoA because he doesn't have time for concentration
until kaido hit him with ragnarock then he figured it out

now he can easily do it without needing to deeply concentrate
 

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#74
No lol there is nothing to say other than your BS headcanon both kaido and BM used adv coa +adv coc.............show me the prove that luffy's ryo > kaido/BM lmfao
Bruh, It was never said nor implied Kaido and BM have ADCOA. They never displayed it period. Why would I need to prove they don't have it when they've never shown it? lmao, do you even know how logic works dude? Luffy has ADOCA level 3 i.e., internal destruction Haki which Kaido and BM don't possess hence his COA is superior.

I even worded it for you in such a way that you can understand things better by saying that Luffy is able to match Kaido's superior physical stats and presumably superior COC with his superior COA and I somehow still failed to get through your wank barrier.
 
#75
Bruh, It was never said nor implied Kaido and BM have ADCOA. They never displayed it period. Why would I need to prove they don't have it when they've never shown it? lmao, do you even know how logic works dude? Luffy has ADOCA level 3 i.e., internal destruction Haki which Kaido and BM don't possess hence his COA is superior.

I even worded it for you in such a way that you can understand things better by saying that Luffy is able to match Kaido's superior physical stats and presumably superior COC with his superior COA and I somehow still failed to get through your wank barrier.
Yeah BM didn't use barrier haki this chap :suresure::denzimote::denzimote:
 

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#78
Yeah your blind then :cheers: @Kejon
Or perhaps your Kaido wank magnifier is making you see things the others can't see? BM used COC in conjunction with COA which is why she wasn't touching Page One if that makes sense to you.

The argument isn't about barrier Haki btw. They most certainly have the barrier Haki even if they have yet to display it. I was talking about the internal destruction variant of COA which Luffy possesses while Kaido and BM do not.

EDIT: I know OP is about Ryou or Barrier Haki so no need to point it out for me.
 
#79
Or perhaps your Kaido wank magnifier is making you see things the others can't see? BM used COC in conjunction with COA which is why she wasn't touching Page One if that makes sense to you.

The argument isn't about barrier Haki btw. They most certainly have the barrier Haki even if they have yet to display it. I was talking about the internal destruction variant of COA which Luffy possesses while Kaido and BM do not.

EDIT: I know OP is about Ryou or Barrier Haki so no need to point it out for me.
Proof BM don't have/used internal destruction?
 

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#80
Proof BM don't have/used internal destruction?
I already explained my case, my guy. She used COC which is evident from the black lightning emanating from her arm. She used COC in conjunction with COA which is why she is not touching PO. If there is someone who needs to prove his case then it should be you. You've yet to explain the reason why the COA on her arm is barrier Haki and not the most basic version of COA.
 
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