Powers & Abilities Does Kaido or Big Mom have Ryuo or what?
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BM uses barrier..... but but BM can't use ryo
You have a point,internal destruction haki has no visible clues during combat!It needs to be stated by some panel of people destroying things from the inside out!From a narrative stand point,Luffy should have the advantage of Future Sight and Internal destruction COA,because BM+KAIDO have superior physical stats and awakening!Luffy needs some kind of edge!
Yes luffy also can't use internal destruction
This is luffy before saying the internal destruction thing....and after that
This is luffy before saying the internal destruction thing....and after that
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So this means BB,KAIDO AND BM have future sight and internal destruction coa+awakened devil fruits?
Shanks must be the weakest yonko then,BB has two devil fruits and Shanks only has 1 arm and a sword!
You guys are confused,i am done here!bye!
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If we are talking about letting haki flow in the body concentrating it on one point and exploding it then that's most likely not the barrier the admirals used against Whitebeard I would say. Rather an invisible shield. Not exactly the way Flow haki was presented to us from the inhabitants of Wano.
But it is what Rayleigh and Luffy showed up as internal destruction, an advanced stage of Ryou, and possibly Zoro against Mr.1, an haki explosion damaging an opponent inside out = penetration type of haki.
However Zoro felt surprised when Luffy demonstrated it against Kaido so he might have merely learnt how to cut steel independently from CoA.
So in other words:
Standard CoA:
Coating / hardening
Barrier Shield (Admirals, Sentomaru)
Ryou CoA:
Basic Flow and Emission (Zoro etc.)
Penetration (Luffy)
But it is what Rayleigh and Luffy showed up as internal destruction, an advanced stage of Ryou, and possibly Zoro against Mr.1, an haki explosion damaging an opponent inside out = penetration type of haki.
However Zoro felt surprised when Luffy demonstrated it against Kaido so he might have merely learnt how to cut steel independently from CoA.
So in other words:
Standard CoA:
Coating / hardening
Barrier Shield (Admirals, Sentomaru)
Ryou CoA:
Basic Flow and Emission (Zoro etc.)
Penetration (Luffy)
People are saying this is confusing. Well if you can't ever spell ryuo or know what it means, and if someone draws examples from anime... no shit you're confused.
Big Mom and Kaido don't have the armament Haki Luffy and Rayleigh use. The one Hyogoro explained as internal. They have imbued conqueror Haki which resembles the type of armament Haki that Hyogoro can use.
But fair enough, it's hard for me to say Oda even came up with this before he started writing Wano, given the inconsistency in visuals
Big Mom and Kaido don't have the armament Haki Luffy and Rayleigh use. The one Hyogoro explained as internal. They have imbued conqueror Haki which resembles the type of armament Haki that Hyogoro can use.
But fair enough, it's hard for me to say Oda even came up with this before he started writing Wano, given the inconsistency in visuals
Hyogoro attacking the guy with barrier haki is the same thing the admirals,sentomaru and Kuja sisters did!Flow/barrier haki is the same thing:projecting armament haki outside the body to either produce armor,attack with said armor or infuse objects with haki(swords,arrows,bullets,etc...)!Hell,even fodder Kuja island girls could infuse armament haki into their arrows!That is flow/barrier haki!
Basic armament:invisible,allows you to touch logias and improve attack power!
Hardening:visible,does the same thing but increase attack power even more!
Flow/barrier:projecting armament haki outside the body to create a fullbody armor,attack with a haki shield or infuse objects with it!Think of flow/barrier as a external hardening!
Penetration armament haki:a tier above flow/barrier,allows the wielder to project said haki INSIDE things or PEOPLE causing internal destrution!Think of this as radiation(go inside stuff easily)!
Basic armament:invisible,allows you to touch logias and improve attack power!
Hardening:visible,does the same thing but increase attack power even more!
Flow/barrier:projecting armament haki outside the body to create a fullbody armor,attack with a haki shield or infuse objects with it!Think of flow/barrier as a external hardening!
Penetration armament haki:a tier above flow/barrier,allows the wielder to project said haki INSIDE things or PEOPLE causing internal destrution!Think of this as radiation(go inside stuff easily)!
THIS!THUMBS UP!
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You did not read what i wrote in the posts above!I said the same things as you,Luffy was using penetration haki the entire fight but it was too shallow!In chapter 1010 he learned to flow his COC into his attacks!
P.S:next time you call me a buffon i will report you!
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Chapter 1010 is named Conqueror's haki!Luffy talks about how Kaido infuses his COC into his club and Kaido responds only the Strongest can do it!Spoiler provider for chapter 1011 said BM used advanced COC!I think this is enough evidence!
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You did not read what i wrote in the posts above!I said the same things as you,Luffy was using penetration haki the entire fight but it was too shallow!In chapter 1010 he learned to flow his COC into his attacks!
P.S:next time you call me a buffon i will report you!
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Chapter 1010 is named Conqueror's haki!Luffy talks about how Kaido infuses his COC into his club and Kaido responds only the Strongest can do it!Spoiler provider for chapter 1011 said BM used advanced COC!I think this is enough evidence!
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He says it was too shallow i.e., the Haki that he learned from Hyogoro was too shallow and continued by stating the fact that he realized COC can be infused in attacks from Kaido's last attack which goes in line with Hyogoro's other panel of him saying Haki truly blooms in battle and then started using COC in conjunction with COA. In other words, the panel exists to remind us ADCOA wasn't enough to beat Kaido, That has no correlation with COC whatsoever.
You don't need ADCOA to infuse your attacks with COC. Zoro did it without ADCOA, as a matter of fact.
You don't need ADCOA to infuse your attacks with COC. Zoro did it without ADCOA, as a matter of fact.