Speculations Does Kizaru get defeated on Egghead Island?

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Unlike the Yonko who are there as real and immeasurable obstacles for Luffy to overcome and move on to fulfill his dreams, admirals are not seen that way, and a fight against any of them will not make the MC's story or dream progress in any way in a nutshell it will just be a waste of time, that's how useless admirals are in this manga made of pirates.

 

[style]

gloves that allows non-haki user to interact with light was introduced in this arc..

That would mean all Mugiwaras will jump on Kizaru, with the weak and maybe also the mid trio wearing those gloves in order to be able to do something against Kizaru.

I wouldn't mind a group fight, especially as a callback to Sabaody were Mugiwaras couldn't do anything to Kizaru

 

[Arthur Fleck]

This might be a combination of Enies Lobby and Sabaody. Lucci and co will be the main fight but unlike Enies Lobby they will be defeated easier then Kizaru arrives like the Buster Call in Enies Lobby except SH will fight and defeat Kizaru or force the marines to retreat.

Also this might not be too short arc. What was the point of dividing Vegapunk to six if not use them in the story.

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gloves that allows non-haki user to interact with light was introduced in this arc..

Yeah just thought about it. What was the point of the Hologram and the flying shoes.

 

[CbShadow]

I don't think Kizaru will be defeated at Egghead island. It will be no different than Fujitora fought in Dressrosa.

Oda It just introducing all of the admiral right now in battle to show of their powers so we have a greater understanding of their ability and strength. We won't see their full power until later on in the manga when the SH takes on the full marine force.

 

[haxxor]

Unlike the Yonko who are there as real and immeasurable obstacles for Luffy to overcome and move on to fulfill his dreams, admirals are not seen that way, and a fight against any of them will not make the MC's story or dream progress in any way in a nutshell it will just be a waste of time, that's how useless admirals are in this manga made of pirates.

As useless as Oda places them in a high rank, letting us know they're highly ranked officals, in another words, more important than yonks

For yonkos he just wanted to get rid of them, hence why he started killing off Yonks since pre-TS
:cheers:

 

[Just a member]

It depends. Imo we will have no admiral as a villain of an arc, also how can Kizaru be the villain of the arc when we just had Kaido and BM? And the way Oda presented it suggested this was side detail. If Oda intended Kizaru to be for real the villain of the arc he could have done again an intro for him like he did in Sabaody (a badass intro in other words and not a "oh, right, Kizaru is coming to egg head island too"). Actually now that I think about it there is also a chance, small, that Kizaru will backstab the CP0 since he, along with Sentomaru, was tasked to be with Vegapunk (also Sentomaru has just been stabbed by Lucci, who knows, maybe we will see an enraged Kizaru, this for once would be a nice twist, haven't seen one since Zou arc).

Anyway as things are right now the main villain seems to be Lucci, of a short arc, but probably with the next chapter the S series will start to attack the SHs... And we have seen with BB they are nothing to laugh at. There could be also nice match ups: Luffy can keep having Lucci. Zoro takes chibi Mihawk. Sanji or Jinbe get baby Jinbe while young Boa could be the enemy of Sanji (please Oda no), Jinbe (but I don't see the link) or even Nami.. this should be enough. But if you add an admiral too we should be close enough to an actual threat to the emperor SH crew. Also Luffy, even if he is fighting in GT vs Lucci doesn't seem serious yet, but Lucci on the other hand had the leisure to take down Sentomaru (but this can be sold too with Luffy being a moron).

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Unlike the Yonko who are there as real and immeasurable obstacles for Luffy to overcome and move on to fulfill his dreams, admirals are not seen that way, and a fight against any of them will not make the MC's story or dream progress in any way in a nutshell it will just be a waste of time, that's how useless admirals are in this manga made of pirates.

 

[garciajulieen]

Egghead is some serious Sabody 2.0 vibes; Kizaru, Sentomaru and Pacifistas are all there.

I highly doubt Kizaru will be beaten since Lucci seems like the main antagonist, and Admirals are always used as wild cards. I think Kizaru's role is to put the final nail in the coffin for Akainu's tolerance of the Gorosei and their agents.

Man, that's interesting!

 

[L55]

Egghead is some serious Sabody 2.0 vibes; Kizaru, Sentomaru and Pacifistas are all there.

I highly doubt Kizaru will be beaten since Lucci seems like the main antagonist, and Admirals are always used as wild cards. I think Kizaru's role is to put the final nail in the coffin for Akainu's tolerance of the Gorosei and their agents.

Zoro vd kiz

 

[Junatic]

He's endgame material so nah. Either Zoro or Sanji will fight him.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Might actually happen.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

It depends on what Oda does with Kizaru. I say Luffy beats Kizaru as some parallel to Sabaody Arc.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Honestly, I doubt it.

What I would like to see is Kizaru being dispatched in a more diplomatic role to stop CP0 from enticing an all out war with the Straw Hats. They are a Yonko crew, and Oda should really treat them as such, as he seemed to be doing this chapter.

Sending Kizaru in for a fight makes you question why they never just did that with any of the other Yonkos. It's always been about maintaining the balance and not causing a full blown war with the Yonkos.

Oda set that up this chapter, and it would be a let down if he pisses that away with Kizaru showing up just for a fight. Like what's the point of Akainu not wanting to start a War this chapter, but is sending Kizaru to do just that? Doesn't make any sense.

In my opinion, Kizarus role here should strictly be focused on stopping the fighting, not instigating further conflict.

Of negotiations can break down, leading to inevitable fighting, but it would be great to see that being a last resort type of deal.

 

[Thaidakar]

My headcanon predicts a reverse saboady. Kizaru and cp0 are going to be losing in flashy fights. Kuma arrives and teleports them away to get rid of them / avoid collateral damage.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Of negotiations can break down, leading to inevitable fighting, but it would be great to see that being a last resort type of deal.

That could happen, and if it does, Luffy either beats Kizaru or shows he's no longer a pushover as some contrasting parallel to Sabaody Archipelago Arc.

 

[OnePiss]

If Kizaru is defeated here then that leaves serious question marks on the admirals purpose.

Fujitora has disappeared for over 100 chapters now and Greenbull was portrayed as a xenophobic guy.

If the admirals are gonna be treated like anything serious in the endgame in a power sense then Kizaru can’t be defeated here

 

[mugiwalaw]

Kizaru might have clear justice after this

 

[CensoredbyWG]

None of the alternatives, kizaru probably has some kind of relation with vegapunk and once he sees sentomaru on the ground with his guts hanging from his belly, he might pull a little betrayal and charge on lucci.

Or he kills sentomaru for betraying the government and join forces with lucci to Hunt and kill vegapunk.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If Kizaru is defeated here then that leaves serious question marks on the admirals purpose.

Fujitora has disappeared for over 100 chapters now and Greenbull was portrayed as a xenophobic guy.

If the admirals are gonna be treated like anything serious in the endgame in a power sense then Kizaru can’t be defeated here

If Kizaru pushes gear 5 luffy to extreme diff, then that’ll hype the strength of the admirals for being endgame opponents for Zoro and Sanji

 

[BOCCHI]

I can’t be sure about it tbh, if Oda wants to solidify Luffy as a fighter who is capable of defeating a top tier with no help then maybe, or the more likely thing imo is show case Luffy standing toe to toe against an admiral without having either of them losing so both parties don’t look bad and still serve the purpose of Luffy being as strong as other top tiers.