Le Fishe Thread Doesn’t this interview make Zoro and Admiral fans question whether you got it all wrong?

Gol D. Roger

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#42
Marines think Mihawk submits to Buggy

Why would they think that if the WSS is a meaningful title?
They only thought Buggy is the leader because that's how Buggy's underlings propagated CG's advertisement. Again, we're not interested in hearing what your salty eyes made you read b/w the lines, just post the scan of them saying MIhawk is weaker than Buggy.
 
#44
They only thought Buggy is the leader because that's how Buggy's underlings propagated CG's advertisement. Again, we're not interested in hearing what your salty eyes made you read b/w the lines, just post the scan of them saying MIhawk is weaker than Buggy.
In the world of One Piece everything is viewed from the lens of whether you’re a leader or subordinate.




Oda throws in “Partner” as a term to signify a more equal based relationship, like Rayleigh to Roger, or Doflamingo with Vergo, even though Doflamingo is superior to Vergo, Vergo is seen as strong and competent enough to be a partner in his empire, same way Rayleigh doesn’t receive anywhere the same strength hype as Roger, but he is still viewed as strong enough to be partner.

So what the hell does that say about Mihawk when the marines conclude that Mihawk in this case is just a subordinate, not even viewed as partner to Buggy :vistalaugh:

hello?
 

Gol D. Roger

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#45
In the world of One Piece everything is viewed from the lens of whether you’re a leader or subordinate.




Oda throws in “Partner” as a term to signify a more equal based relationship, like Rayleigh to Roger, or Doflamingo with Vergo, even though Doflamingo is superior to Vergo, Vergo is seen as strong and competent enough to be a partner in his empire, same way Rayleigh doesn’t receive anywhere the same strength hype as Roger, but he is still viewed as strong enough to be partner.

So what the hell does that say about Mihawk when the marines conclude that Mihawk in this case is just a subordinate, not even viewed as partner to Buggy :vistalaugh:

hello?
So where's the scan saying Buggy's stronger than Mihawk? If you're hoping writing a whole bunch of nothing is gonna distract me from asking you to provide evidence for your claims. You're failing miserably.
 
#47
Sanji too wasn't planned in the story.
Since sanji was introduced same arc as mihawk
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Only luffy,zoro,usopp and nami were supposed to be strawhats.
But since oda expanded story other strawhats came into existence.
Beside whether mihawk was planned or not. Zoro dream in chapter 3 was wss so oda clearly planned some world strongest swordsman whom zoro need to defeat to become wss even if it's not mihawk.
 
#49
This interview right here is very revealing as to the motives and intentions Oda has for his One Piece storyline


Have a gander folks. Oda says he was originally approaching One Piece with the intended goal to make this story about overcoming the strongest pirates , the “Yonkou”. This is the overarching narrative that defined One Piece from the start, which means he is most likely staying true to the original concept, adding certain concepts and content here and there but continuing with his original inspiration.

If you are a Zoro fan and don’t like the way Mihawk has been portrayed, and you just can’t seem to make heads and tails about it, you have your answer right here. He is not close to being a MC.

Why? Oda literally says he came up with the Schichibukais later as an afterthought. The warlords are just an add-on to the overarching storyline of Luffy vs Great Pirates, just to add some sense of “coolness” (Oda’s words).

It’s the same way with admirals fans, if you are arguing for Admiral supremacy, even if you convince yourself with “logic” that they are superior to yonkos, don’t you feel you are just shooting yourself in the foot and setting yourself up for failure when you are going against the storyline that Oda started with?

What are your thoughts? Is this too much Black Pill at once, or can you handle that you’ve been living in a haze all this time as to what you think Oda’s motives have been about his own story? A story about the strongest pirates at the end of the day, but you insisted on trying to sneak in Zoro, Mihawk or admirals in there where there really was no vacant place for them to begin with.

I say this because I don’t want people to go down a path that’s doomed to fail and be of no use.:myman:
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#53
When drafts from the story that predate chapter 50 and were obviously discarded (as said in the same interview) are used as a .
“Obviously discarded”

Oda says the draft changed with the addition of Schichibukais. How do you get from there that the theme of One Piece has anywhere changed?

What’s the theme? Beating yonkos. That has not been overruled just because he added Schichibukai.

The theme has always been overcoming Yonko, and Mihawk was placed in the lesser category, warlord, then Mihawk by definition isn’t thematic in the grand scheme of things

But this makes the case for admirals even harder to argue. Oda never even has anything to say about them, he only prolonged the serialisation due to including Warlords
Wait til this fool learns how many things weren’t initially planned :saden:
Probably many, and Oda is gonna be more partial to his original ideas and theme , and his original characters
 
#56
“Obviously discarded”

Oda says the draft changed with the addition of Schichibukais. How do you get from there that the theme of One Piece has anywhere changed?

What’s the theme? Beating yonkos. That has not been overruled just because he added Schichibukai.

The theme has always been overcoming Yonko, and Mihawk was placed in the lesser category, warlord, then Mihawk by definition isn’t thematic in the grand scheme of things

But this makes the case for admirals even harder to argue. Oda never even has anything to say about them, he only prolonged the serialisation due to including Warlords
Cope. Or cry. I don't care.
 
#59
An « emperor « was defeated by two characters that come from a group only created in Sabaoady due to editor pressure who thought said arc needed more characters, but go on king about how early drafts dictate the current story. :steef:
Now imagine Akainu who got two-shotted by accident in BMs place

:josad:

BM was dominating them until awakening , so literally 2vs1 with awakening against a Yonko is what it takes

Which is why I say Given the circumstances and context, Oda will always be more partial to his original ideas and creations
 
#60
Now imagine Akainu who got two-shotted by accident in BMs place

:josad:

BM was dominating them until awakening , so literally 2vs1 with awakening against a Yonko is what it takes

Which is why I say Given the circumstances and context, Oda will always be more partial to his original ideas and creations
Funnily the character that you claim got « two shotted by accident » was stated to be able to end the serialization within a year due too being too powerful by Oda. But I guess this one doesn’t count?:myman:
 
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