Le Fishe Thread Doesn’t this interview make Zoro and Admiral fans question whether you got it all wrong?

[Kawatsuki]

This interview right here is very revealing as to the motives and intentions Oda has for his One Piece storyline

Have a gander folks. Oda says he was originally approaching One Piece with the intended goal to make this story about overcoming the strongest pirates , the “Yonkou”. This is the overarching narrative that defined One Piece from the start, which means he is most likely staying true to the original concept, adding certain concepts and content here and there but continuing with his original inspiration.

If you are a Zoro fan and don’t like the way Mihawk has been portrayed, and you just can’t seem to make heads and tails about it, you have your answer right here. He is not close to being a MC.

Why? Oda literally says he came up with the Schichibukais later as an afterthought. The warlords are just an add-on to the overarching storyline of Luffy vs Great Pirates, just to add some sense of “coolness” (Oda’s words).

It’s the same way with admirals fans, if you are arguing for Admiral supremacy, even if you convince yourself with “logic” that they are superior to yonkos, don’t you feel you are just shooting yourself in the foot and setting yourself up for failure when you are going against the storyline that Oda started with?

What are your thoughts? Is this too much Black Pill at once, or can you handle that you’ve been living in a haze all this time as to what you think Oda’s motives have been about his own story? A story about the strongest pirates at the end of the day, but you insisted on trying to sneak in Zoro, Mihawk or admirals in there where there really was no vacant place for them to begin with.

I say this because I don’t want people to go down a path that’s doomed to fail and be of no use.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

What does Mihawk have to do with this?
Hell what do Admirals got to do with this?

 

[Kawatsuki]

What does Mihawk have to do with this?
Hell what do Admirals got to do with this?

Try reading threads first before adding useless commentary, like you did on my Sanji CoC thread

Mihawk is a warlord, and Oda says he had already fleshed out a story concept, and added Mihawk just as decoration to the story.

Or maybe he had come up with Mihawk but simply designates him to a role that is of lesser consequence to the story, ie he becomes part of a league that is essentially an afterthought , less important than yonkos.

if the story is ultimately about pirates, then hyping Admirals also seem like a sure way to shoot yourself in the foot

 

[ConquistadoR]

Why? Oda literally says he came up with the Schichibukais later as an afterthought. The warlords are just an add-on to the overarching storyline of Luffy vs Great Pirates, just to add some sense of “coolness” (Oda’s words).

Shichibukai being created later on, doesnt mean characters like Mihawk, Crocodile weren't in Oda's mind from the start.

He simply made these characters as Shichibukai to add to the World Building of the story later on.

Mihawk, Shanks and Dragon were the Only Top Tiers introduced in East Blue (at chapters 1, 50 & 100). Chapter 100 is a monumental part of a Shonen's serialization, its a sign that it has been accepted and won't face axing anymore. Even before all the fancy worldbuilding came into the story, Mihawk existed.

Even before the term "Yonko" was written in the story, Mihawk was introduced lol.

 

[JoNdule]

Shichibukai being created later on, doesnt mean characters like Mihawk, Crocodile weren't in Oda's mind from the start.

He simply made these characters as Shichibukai to add to the World Building of the story later on.

Mihawk, Shanks and Dragon were the Only Top Tiers introduced in East Blue (at chapters 1, 50 & 100). Chapter 100 is a monumental part of a Shonen's serialization, its a sign that it has been accepted and won't face axing anymore. Even before all the fancy worldbuilding came into the story, Mihawk existed.

Oda introducing mihawk or X early doesn't mean they were always there in his OG plans

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The story has always been about Yonko as strongest guys

Beating Yonko and WG (imu) is what matters.

That's why every WSP or King has been Great Pirate or Emperor.

 

[Malio]

No it don't. Just makes Yonko gobblers look desperate as per usual

 

[ConquistadoR]

Oda introducing mihawk or X early doesn't mean they were always there in his OG plans

Says you lol.

Who said Mihawk wasnt in Oda's OG plans? Did Oda tell you that?

 

[Kawatsuki]

Shichibukai being created later on, doesnt mean characters like Mihawk, Crocodile weren't in Oda's mind from the start.

He simply made these characters as Shichibukai to add to the World Building of the story later on.

Mihawk, Shanks and Dragon were the Only Top Tiers introduced in East Blue (at chapters 1, 50 & 100). Chapter 100 is a monumental part of a Shonen's serialization, it’s a sign that it has been accepted and won't face axing anymore. Even before all the fancy worldbuilding came into the story, Mihawk existed.

Even if Mihawk existed in his mind, him being a Schichibukai tells you all you need to know.

Warlords are secondary to Oda

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Try reading threads first before adding useless commentary, like you did on my Sanji CoC thread

Mihawk is a warlord, and Oda says he had already fleshed out a story concept, and added Mihawk just as decoration to the story.

Or maybe he had come up with Mihawk but simply designates him to a role that is of lesser consequence to the story, ie he becomes part of a league that is essentially an afterthought , less important than yonkos.

if the story is ultimately about pirates, then hyping Admirals also seem like a sure way to shoot yourself in the foot

I read your stupid post, it was a lot of random rubbish which is why I asked the questions that I did.
Mihawk had his place in the story from chapter 2, his inclusion in Warlords is irrelevant besides hyping up the group.
You didn't even try to explain the Admirals part in your post.
Besides this is all irrelevant, what Oda originally wanted to do makes no difference, what matters is what he did.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Even if Mihawk existed in his mind, him being a Schichibukai tells you all you need to know.

Warlords are secondary to Oda

Says you, again.

Time and again, we've been reminded how powerful & elite the Shichibukai are.

 

[Kawatsuki]

I read your stupid post, it was a lot of random rubbish which is why I asked the questions that I did.
Mihawk had his place in the story from chapter 2, his inclusion in Warlords is irrelevant besides hyping up the group.
You didn't even try to explain the Admirals part in your post.
Besides this is all irrelevant, what Oda originally wanted to do makes no difference, what matters is what he did.

Mihawk is placed in a category that is secondary to Oda so as to designate his place in the story

He even says Luffy’s end goal is superior to Zoro’s

There are levels to this shit man

Says you, again.

Time and again, we've been reminded how powerful & elite the Shichibukai are.

Elite but not yonko level

Mihawk should’ve been part of the end goal group, instead he is part of the afterthought association and hypes Luffy’s goal first time they meet in Baratie

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Mihawk is placed in a category that is secondary to Oda so as to designate his place in the story

He even says Luffy’s end goal is superior to Zoro’s

There are levels to this shit man

He placed Mihawk in a group he didn't originally have in mind but ended up wanting to create.
But that's irrelevant anyway because neither Mihawk's place in the story nor his strength have anything to do with the Shichibukai

 

[CbShadow]

All the interview proves is Mihawk wasn't going to be a warlord at first and he decided to change that later on. That explains why Mihawk is so much stronger than the rest of the warlords and the only top tier warlord.

When Mihawk was first introduced he didn't have his warlord title.

 

[Reborn]

 

[Kawatsuki]

All the interview proves is Mihawk wasn't going to be a warlord at first and he decided to change that later on. That explains why Mihawk is so much stronger than the rest of the warlords and the only top tier warlord.

When Mihawk was first introduced he didn't have his warlord title.

What exactly makes Mihawk stronger than Doflamingo?

Mihawk talks down to Buggy but speaks to Crocodile with a respectful tone

Mihawk knows who he can insult, who he has to maintain a respectful to, and when to be scared

Mihawk and Crocodile said they were gonna be partners originally before Bugy showed up and made them subordinates lol. Mihawk is never placed above Crocodile

 

[ConquistadoR]

Mihawk is never placed above Crocodile

The same Emperor who broke Crocodile's spirit and sent him back to Grand Line to lick his wounds, thinks Mihawk's & Shanks' duels are Legendary lmfao.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Yeah, the Worst Generation was a last minute addition, how many of you wank them to the moon like they're tye next generations superstars or something? It doesn't matter what the initial plans are; it's what's implemented in the story that matters.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

All the interview proves is Mihawk wasn't going to be a warlord at first and he decided to change that later on. That explains why Mihawk is so much stronger than the rest of the warlords and the only top tier warlord.

Its more like Oda created two characters as the goal of Luffy and Zoro (One Piece version of Ryuma): they are Shanks and Mihawk. Then he decided to create the idea of yonkos for Shanks and the idea of shichibukais for Mihawk. There is a reason why the original design of shichibukais only consisted of swordsmen:

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

What exactly makes Mihawk stronger than Doflamingo?

Having a bounty superior to half of the current Yonko.
Having a bounty that's above Yonko Teach's former one.
Owning and creating one of the two confirmed black blades in existence.
Having one of the 3 world strongest titles.
Being the WSS in a world where characters like Shanks, Issho, Rayleigh, Shiryu, Zoro, etc are all swordsman.
Being the end goal of a guy who crushed a YC1 after getting a power up.
Hell, Doffy was surprised when Mihawk actually attacked Whitebeard.
Law said that anyone commanding Crocodile and Mihawk would be worthy of being a Yonko.
Just the entirety of 1058 lol

Bro these baits are weak, at least go with Weevil> Mihawk instead of this old ass 2015 troll take

 

[Kawatsuki]

The same Emperor who broke Crocodile's spirit and sent him back to Grand Line to lick his wounds, thinks Mihawk's & Shanks' duels are Legendary lmfao.

Cant find the interview or material where it says that Crocodile was aiming for the PK-title in his early heydays, where he was considered a promising up-and-comer, challenged the big names like WB , he was respected back in the days among the great names

The reason he joined the warlords was because he could only go so far. So we literally have a reason for the warlord title

(1) to stretch out and take it easy after you lose the PK-race (crocodile, Moriah and Mihawk)

(2) safety for your country (Hancook) or more specifically to rescue a crewman (Jimbei’s case)

(3) political and strategical reasons (Doflamingo, Law)

Oda admitted Croocodile’s introduction was a mistake. Now you can’t argue the fact that Mihawk and Crocodile are literal partners. Nothing puts Mihawk above Croc

If the story was written differently, Luffy would’ve beaten Mihawk the same way he did Crocodile