Current Events Drunk Mode isn't suppose to be taken seriously

[notAfanboy]

Oda told you all that???

You are just going out sad. Ever since Oda shattered your headcanon about Zoro being stronger than Luffy, you have been downplaying Luffy like crazy

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How is Drunk Kaido a nerf when he just said the opposite
Luffy is fighting a much stronger and serious Kaido. Not his fault the scabbards and Novas couldn't present him a challenge. Making threads about how Drunk Kaido is a nerf won't change manga facts.

His Haki is getting stronger, he is fighting seriously and Luffy is the the only one who can go toe to toe with him. Not Zoro, Law, Kid, Kin or whoever. It is written in bold. Only Luffy

Keep sprinkling salt on these fool's wounds. Luffy >>>>>> their favorite.

Why they are trying in vain, who they are trying to convince, themselves?

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Because One Piece/Oda is failling for a long time in a basic principle of writing/making people believe what you want. Actions means more than words/One image worths a thousand words. Oda is saying thing but not showing things. Oda is saying Luffy is strong, win against Katakuri, is right now 1v1 Kaido. But he is showing Luffy getting beat by people 100% sure weaker than him, unconclusive fights, losing and getting beating a lot just to come back stronger without any explanation why he became stronger from getting beat.

the explanation is very simple and has been mentioned int the manga several times. your willpower gets stronger when you are in battle. "haki blooms in conflict". in real life, when you do something more, you get better at it. even if you lose, or get beat, the experience makes you improve.

making complaints like this when the answers are in front of you makes you look really braindead

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im also getting annoyed by people sayingh luffy is fighting "in base". like i understand if yall cant read words but not being able to read PICTURES? hes using 2+3 at the same time, switching forms as much as kaido is. he used snakeman to pop back in riding momo. luffy is using everything hes got and people are like uhhh is that base form? his arm and foot are the size of kaidos club but its base form. whats that, steam and darker skin? base. oh man he said snakeman, he can do thatr in base form??

 

[Violent Sanji]

Why Oda can't hold him from retconning everything on One Piece?

Kaido's is being drunk almost every time he shows up.

Since Kaido seems to only gets sad and suicidal when he drunks it is pretty safe to assume he was drunk when he first met Kid's alliance.

He was also drunk when he first met and fought Luffy at beginning of Wano.

He was drunk when Scabbards attacked him. And at the same night he even took more sake and then fought Yamato.

Everybody only fought drunk Kaido. Not sure about BM though. And most of these encounters Kaido got hurt but it seem he didn't against BM.

That said, drunk Kaido is nerf Kaido. Stupid to think otherwise. Doesn't matter what Oda makes Kaido say. Words of a drunk man means nothing. Kaido says something but shows another. Drunk Kaido is bullshit portrayal while sober Kaido is real shit feat wise.

Neither should zoro fans

 

[WesMidnight]

the explanation is very simple and has been mentioned int the manga several times. your willpower gets stronger when you are in battle. "haki blooms in conflict". in real life, when you do something more, you get better at it. even if you lose, or get beat, the experience makes you improve.

making complaints like this when the answers are in front of you makes you look really braindead

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im also getting annoyed by people sayingh luffy is fighting "in base". like i understand if yall cant read words but not being able to read PICTURES? hes using 2+3 at the same time, switching forms as much as kaido is. he used snakeman to pop back in riding momo. luffy is using everything hes got and people are like uhhh is that base form? his arm and foot are the size of kaidos club but its base form. whats that, steam and darker skin? base. oh man he said snakeman, he can do thatr in base form??

g2/g3 has been considered functionally part of Luffy's base since the timeskip, especially since g4 was shown.
He hasn't been using g4 aside from a single snakeman attack designed for it's extreme long range and speed rather than AP.

 

[Shisui]

Its Beta, you excpected something else?

I actually expected better. I thought he was one of the more reasonable posters on this forum

 

[Adamxero]

I actually expected better. I thought he was one of the more reasonable posters on this forum

He is fairly reasonable when it's not Zoro related or putting someone over Zoro related

 

[Steven]

 

[notAfanboy]

I actually expected better. I thought he was one of the more reasonable posters on this forum

Same. Lately, more and more old members are becoming like that.

 

[Necrohol]

The manga says otherwise. Ignoring it to further your agenda is the true stupidity here.

 

[Herrera95]

This has nothing to do with what I explained. Kaido is the king of onis, expecting him be nerfed while drunk and lying about his strength is ignoring the lore behind the character. You have no case at applying human logic to this creature.

Also, Oda isn't retconning anything: this is the first time since chapter 824 that we see Kaido being drunk enough to shift between moods. If back then we had him going from depressed to angry and showing different "drunk personalities" (as stressed by his subordinates) yet this hadn't been seen in any other instance until now, the inference is that we hadn't seen him like that again until now. On top of this, it's completely false that Kaido says one thing but shows another: he went more beastly than ever this last chapter thanks to alcohol and Luffy commented on his haki getting stronger.

The difference between being tipsy and totally drunk, I guess.

Anyway, seems that oficial translation Kaido says he isn't weaker by getting drunk but also doesn't say he is stronger. But we can see a clearly difference because Kaido is not fighting 100% since he is having mental issues with himself. He is reacting to Luffy most of time and not taking initiative as he used to do. Only at angry mode he is doing it.

Oda is retconning a lot. Kaido at beginning of Wano isn't getting hurt by Luffy's attack. At rooftop Law is hurting him with stones and Kid with WWE moves. Kaido is told to have a hobby of suicide on his introduction but later we learn that he knew he wouldn't die and was after Kid's alliance on purpose. Again, Kaido is only beastly mode when he is angry this is not happening with his other moods. Kaido's haki getting stronger can also be Luffy's haki getting weaker. Why only villains's haki is getting weaker or stronger?

Agree about being tipsy and drunk. But he is drinking anyway.

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the explanation is very simple and has been mentioned int the manga several times. your willpower gets stronger when you are in battle. "haki blooms in conflict". in real life, when you do something more, you get better at it. even if you lose, or get beat, the experience makes you improve.

making complaints like this when the answers are in front of you makes you look really braindead

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im also getting annoyed by people sayingh luffy is fighting "in base". like i understand if yall cant read words but not being able to read PICTURES? hes using 2+3 at the same time, switching forms as much as kaido is. he used snakeman to pop back in riding momo. luffy is using everything hes got and people are like uhhh is that base form? his arm and foot are the size of kaidos club but its base form. whats that, steam and darker skin? base. oh man he said snakeman, he can do thatr in base form??

You are saying a complete different thing from what I said.

First of all, haki blooms is okay I'm not complaining this. My complaining could be that Villains never have haki blooms. But let's talk about Luffy vs Katakuri. Luffy learned FS not at the level of Katakuri but okay. Then when we are about to have the grand finale, Snakeman is not using FS, he is getting outspeed by Katakuri that is still dogding most of his attacks, Katakuri's armament is still stronger because it is hurting Snakeman when they match fists. Where the haki bloomed here?

You call others braindead but can't realize that base form to most of people is not having drawbacks like he used to have while using G2/G3 and now with G4? He used Snakeman just once and you are saying he is switching as much he wants. He still has G4 drawback that's why he is not using.

 

[centurion]

The real question: how can he drink so much without having to go pee?

ever since the banquet started on onigashima and he’s been drinking non-stop: with Orochi, after meeting Flying Six, after beating Scabbards and while fighting luffy

His bladder is really yonko level, hope it doesn’t explode and he gets kidney failure

 

[Herrera95]

The real question: how can he drink so much without having to go pee?

ever since the banquet started on onigashima and he’s been drinking non-stop: with Orochi, after meeting Flying Six, after beating Scabbards and while fighting luffy

His bladder is really yonko level, hope it doesn’t explode and he gets kidney failure

He is big. I bet his kidneys are big too.

Oda is drawing Kaido golden showering Luffy next chapter.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think Oda portrayed this scene about Kaido in order to foster his classic pirate-like personality once again. He looks quite classic pirate like and he shares some deep traits with Teach actually.

 

[JoNdule]

Drunk kaido = unpredictable and burst out his haki more and more

Drunk kaido isn't PU or whatever but it's a serious fighting state
It's not a gag

 

[Kozuki TVU]

Doesn't really matter how you try to spin it bro Kaido is about to get emasculated, just like he got emasculated by Oden except that now grandma isn't there to save his ass lmao.

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

I totally forgot that one of the excuse that was used to explain why Kaido get ragdolled by G3 was that he was drunk. And people said that G3 did nothing to him but in the last chapter we learn that :

-Drunk mode is a power up that makes his haki go stronger
-You need to actually hurt Kaido to make him goes out of Drunk mode ( therefore depowering him)

Therefore:

-G3 ragdolled Kaido at his strongest
-G3 actually hurt Kaido
-G4 did nothing to Kaido
-G4 get one shot by a weaker Kaido

The more the time is passing the more the first Luffy vs Kaido encounter seems to be a big ass outlier or Oda forget about it

Don Le Fishe was right!
Mods re-open my early theards!

 

[Jailer]

The real question: how can he drink so much without having to go pee?

ever since the banquet started on onigashima and he’s been drinking non-stop: with Orochi, after meeting Flying Six, after beating Scabbards and while fighting luffy

His bladder is really yonko level, hope it doesn’t explode and he gets kidney failure

He sweats a shit ton from fighting, might as well take a piss his pants wont make a difference

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

The real question: how can he drink so much without having to go pee?

ever since the banquet started on onigashima and he’s been drinking non-stop: with Orochi, after meeting Flying Six, after beating Scabbards and while fighting luffy

His bladder is really yonko level, hope it doesn’t explode and he gets kidney failure

It's because he cry so much

 

[Finalbeta]

I actually expected better. I thought he was one of the more reasonable posters on this forum

But I'm reasonable

I just tend to be impartial unlike many run by their biases

 

[Herrera95]

Drunk kaido = unpredictable and burst out his haki more and more

Drunk kaido isn't PU or whatever but it's a serious fighting state
It's not a gag

Being unpredictable isn't an issue for someone with FS

Drunk Kaido isn't PU for sure. But he isn't fighting serious. Just look at the chapter he is gaging, having mental issues with himself. He is more worried about the castle than about Luffy. He only went serious when he claims to be sober again. Drunk Kaido 100% confirmed to be a nerf.