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Will there be any doubts whether PK Luffy will be> Kaido in 1v1?


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#42
Has he ever been called a pirate outside the bubble of warlords ?

He doesnt even have a jolly roger the standard of being a pirate.

The definition of being a pirate is looting others which he doesnt do.

Nothing of what mihawk does is "being a pirate"
But if you are inside the bubble of warlords then you are a pirate, that's the thing. It's a group made of pirates whose piracy is sanctioned, not a group of independant sailors.

"Looting" as definition of being a pirate seems quite simplistic in this particular context too, considering that in One Piece pirates may not even loot but simply live their lifes as free men, establish a huge empire that works like a country, and so on. We don't know if he has a Jolly Roger nor whether a Jolly Roger is actually obligatory for a pirate to be such, which would feel a bit forced. I doubt there's such "being a pirate" concept in this story, and if there is, it's probably more related to doing whatever you want because a pirate is free.

I see no reason to overcomplicate this. The Shichibukai is described as a group of pirates minimum three times in which Mihawk is included. No professional bounty hunters like Jean Ango, no independent players like arguably Kuzan, only pirates.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
But if you are inside the bubble of warlords then you are a pirate, that's the thing. It's a group made of pirates whose piracy is sanctioned, not a group of independant sailors.

"Looting" as definition of being a pirate seems quite simplistic in this particular context too, considering that in One Piece pirates may not even loot but simply live their lifes as free men, establish a huge empire that works like a country, and so on. I doubt there's such "being a pirate" concept in this story, and if it is, it's probably more related to doing whatever you want because a pirate is free.

I see no reason to overcomplicate this. The Shichibukai is described as a group of pirates minimum three times in which Mihawk is included. No professional bounty hunters like Jean Ango, no independent players like arguably Kuzan, only pirates.
Lmfao. You need to show me.
You dont have to be a pirate to have a bounty as weve seen with revos bandits etc.
He doesnt act like a pirate doesnt have a roger a crew or anything. Never been called a pirate when on about him specifically.
 
#44
Commander level and vetern level can hurt any youkou or admiral.
I know that. But Kaido is the only character the manga tells us can't be hurt. That's why nobody, not even Kaido himself. Which has never made any sense. He was supposed to be in battles against the Marines and other strong opponents yet nobody could hurt him except a handful of people who are mostly commander and veteran level.
 
#45
Funny how you didn't address the Warlord panel. Lol 😆 bodied. Viz is Viz and its official. Stephen Paul got Oden only cutting Kaido with one sword wrong. Has long has i provide an official source get out of my face bro
Maybe you’re not an old head like me but back in the day Viz wasn’t credible. Either Stephen Paul or Cnet128. Not sure why you’re giving so much credit to Viz back in the day but they were trash.

There’s no translation from Stephen for the chapter.
 
#46
We don't have to scale EoS ambitions. Zoro bowing down to hawk eyes strikes me as their fight not being all too important anymore, and could be handled in an epilogue or something. He doesn't necessarily have to surpass Mihawk EoS, just beat whoever the #2 to the final villain is.

Killer fought both Kaido and Shanks. He didn't call Kaido just "one of the strongest" and he never called Shanks "the strongest". I don't understand how people think all emperor's are equal in individual strength. Clashing doesn't mean two people are equal. Shanks has no reputation of being particularly strong individually among his yonko peers.

WB is clearly renowned as the strongest or very close to the strongest in the OP world by everyone. Renown doesn't go away with old age. So Mihawk trying to measure him strikes me as him just being curious and suspecting the difference between them is smaller than the hype. Mihawk and WB probably have never actually interacted before in the same way Shanks and WB seemed to be acquaintances or even friends. Mihawk's wording in that translation is just that: conjecture. The entire point of that scene was to hype up WB. "Is he as strong as everyone thinks he is?" Which is promptly answered in the form of one of his followers blocking Mihawk's slash.

Shanks and BB don't necessarily have to be as strong as Kaido/BM who have been portrayed as close. We don't go around explaining all of the clashes in Wano, where the stakes are high, as denoting equality between characters, do we? Plenty of room to fit other characters in-between Kaido/BM and Shanks.

I suspect it probably goes something like Kaido>=BM>Akainu>Mihawk>=Shanks. I think it's pretty irrefutable that Mihawk scales to Shanks. Wherever you put Shanks, you must put the hawk eyes. Akainu also gets a lot of special and unique hype from Oda.

The other two admirals strike me as being above Blackbeard, who's still a relative rookie as of this time. Kuzan was near-equal to Akainu to the extent that only a 10-day fight brought forth a result. His injury may set him back and Akainu may be getting stronger, but we can't underestimate them.
 
#47
Mihawk is a pirate. The Shichibukai were introduced as 7 pirates that lend their power to the WG. And yes, they are still pirates while Shichibukai, they don't lose that status. Hence Doflamingo told the CP0 guy that he, even though he is a Shichibuai, is still a pirate who is free to do as he wishes. And why did the Marines start chasing Mihawk after his Shichibukai title was taken away? What is he, if not a pirate? Is he a bandit?
 
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Jo_Ndule

#48
Lol

For zoro to be stronger than yonko
**Mihawk and Shiryu needs to be at least equal to Akainu which can't happen
Warlord Mihawk is inferior to FA akainu since admirals are and were always WG strongest force not warlords
Warlord Mihawk is inferior to Kaido, WB and Roger by a clear gap.
Shiryu is inferior to current Teach by far , currrnt teach who's inferior to Kaido.

Zoro was never gonna surpass or equal conquerors as Great Pirates
Rayleigh wasn't even a Great pirate ze nor Oden but Zoro would?someone who lacks CoC and extreme wank?
PK>=WSC/WSM>=Great pirates>FA>=Admirals/WSS

The strongest pirate is always PK or WSC or WSM
Not WSS
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#49
Mihawk is a pirate. The Shichibukai were introduced as 7 pirates that lend their power to the WG. And yes, they are still pirates while Shichibukai, they don't lose that status. Hence Doflamingo told the CP0 guy that he, even though he is a Shichibuai, is still a pirate who is free to do as he wishes. And why did the Marines start chasing Mihawk after his Shichibukai title was taken away? What is he, if not a pirate? Is he a bandit?
You dont have to be a pirate to have a bounty.
 
#50
Craphawk> Admirals is trash, the translation of the vivre card not made by Arthur, who puts his own words says that Craphawk wait that someone will overcome him does not refer to Shanks. And if I mean Shanks in a magazine, it says HE'S
POWERFUL ENOUGH TO FIGHT AGAINST THE MARINE ADMIRAL LEVEL.
Also if Shiryu of the rain killed Mihawk (((And I'm not talking about killing him surpassing him in sword skill))) and stealing the yoru then where is Zolo's goal? Which also seems to have already put it aside for Luffy's goal...
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#55
Craphawk> Admirals is trash, the translation of the vivre card not made by Arthur, who puts his own words says that Craphawk wait that someone will overcome him does not refer to Shanks. And if I mean Shanks in a magazine, it says HE'S
POWERFUL ENOUGH TO FIGHT AGAINST THE MARINE ADMIRAL LEVEL.
Also if Shiryu of the rain killed Mihawk (((And I'm not talking about killing him surpassing him in sword skill))) and stealing the yoru then where is Zolo's goal? Which also seems to have already put it aside for Luffy's goal...
Artur is a shanks fanboy. So if hes saying mihawks vivre card is hes waiting for someone stronger than shanks then that says everything.
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Kuma was considered a pirate by the wg and i guess
Doesnt matter what hes classed as hes not a pirate. Just like drake isnt a pirate but a marine. Its called going undercover.
 
#59
Artur is a shanks fanboy. So if hes saying mihawks vivre card is hes waiting for someone stronger than shanks then that says everything.
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Doesnt matter what hes classed as hes not a pirate. Just like drake isnt a pirate but a marine. Its called going undercover.
You realize the government was chasing before he became a Warlord right? He a pirate like the story tells you. Nobody was chasing Zoro because he was a pirate hunter.
 
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