Future Events EOS Sabo v. Akainu? Nope.

Who will defeat Akainu?


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#1
Some people seem to believe that during the final war Sabo will take care of Akainu to avenge Ace as he's basically Ace 2.0 having now replaced the other Luffy brother...

However, I don't believe this will happen. Instead it will be the usual Luffy taking care of him.

1) Motivation: Luffy has actually more reasons to fight Akainu than Sabo. While Ace is brother to both, he was killed in front of Luffy's eyes, and Akainu was also about to kill Luffy himself, leaving him with a giant scar. In fact, for all we know Sabo never even met Akainu.

2) Organizations: Sakazuki leads the Marines and their job is to take care of pirates. Who's the biggest pirate of them all? Our dear Pirate King Monkey D. Luffy. Sabo on the other hand is the #2 of the Revos, and their direct counterpart as far as WG organizations are NOT the Marines but CP0.

3) Plot importance: while on the pirate side Blackbeard is clearly being depicted as the ultimate rival for the throne, on the WG side Akainu currently stands unrivaled as the big bad guy. Right now it's not even close. He killed Ace, the MC's brother, put Whitebeard on the deathbed, and is now the Navy Fleet Admiral that will clearly stick to the WG side until the end due to his absolute justice. The only one who could overshadow him is Im. But we don't know yet if Im has any martial might. Even if he does, Akainu still remains a character with great accumulated plot significance that makes very hard to see someone else beside Luffy taking care of him. Would you actually expect to see Akainu v Law, or Akainu v Kid at EoS? I guess not, it's most likely Luffy or Sabo, and I do believe that considering the stuff mentioned above plus Oda's MC focus it will be Luffy.

Sabo will focus on CP0 instead, Lucci is right there waiting for him, and if Dragon is still in the mix at EoS there can be a CP0 boss for him as well.

EDIT: to clarify, I can still see Luffy going after Gorosei/Im (if they are fighters) after Akainu. I'm just saying that Akainu will go down to Luffy toward the end of the story and not to Sabo.


It will be glorious watching the tears of Yonko/PK wankers when Akainu goes toe to toe with PK Luffy that just defeated WSM Blackbeard :suresure::steef:
 
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Bogard

You can't win
#5
The big enemies of this manga are Im/Gorosei and Blackbeard

This panel pretty much said it all



Even if Im wasn't a fighter, i'm pretty certain Gorosei would be

At one point, it'd turn into a free for all between Im/Gorosei, Blackbeard, and Luffy.

The marines on the other hand as mentioned already before are just the outside face of the world government



Historically they aren't even connected with the D vs Celestial Dragons battle: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ncient-weapons-and-the-world-government.2029/

That's why Akainu is never bound to play a significant role EOS. He might even lose next arc considering it's implied the focus might shift onto Vivi, Hancock, Sabo, with regardless of what is happening with Sabo right now, he won't be killed, with him ending up accomplishing Ace's will

There is a reason why Oda reintroduced Sabo as an Ace 2.0 and ate his fruit. Ace's will, will of fire overcoming magma is only a matter of time. And power-level wise PK Luffy will be too strong for Akainu
 
#8
The big enemies of this manga are Im/Gorosei and Blackbeard

This panel pretty much said it all



Even if Im wasn't a fighter, i'm pretty certain Gorosei would be

At one point, it'd turn into a free for all between Im/Gorosei, Blackbeard, and Luffy.

The marines on the other hand as mentioned already before are just the outside face of the world government



Historically they aren't even connected with the D vs Celestial Dragons battle: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ncient-weapons-and-the-world-government.2029/

That's why Akainu is never bound to play a significant role EOS. He might even lose next arc considering it's implied the focus might shift onto Vivi, Hancock, Sabo, with regardless of what is happening with Sabo right now, he won't be killed, with him ending up accomplishing Ace's will

There is a reason why Oda reintroduced Sabo as an Ace 2.0 and ate his fruit. Ace's will, will of fire overcoming magma is only a matter of time. And power-level wise PK Luffy will be too strong for Akainu
BB won't make it to EoS. He will go down in the Raftel Arc which will happen before the last arc that will be the final war. The final War will be Luffy's friend vs WG. Akainu on the other hand is sticking with the WG until the end. He isn't going anywhere before EOS, "next arc" LOL.
 

Bogard

You can't win
#9
BB won't make it to EoS. He will go down in the Raftel Arc which will happen before the last arc that will be the final war. The final War will be Luffy's friend vs WG. Akainu on the other hand is sticking with the WG until the end. He isn't going anywhere before EOS, "next arc" LOL.
And who told you Blackbeard's story will end in Raftel? There is a reason why Blackbeard was mentioned to be interested by ancient history, with him being one of Im's targets. They'd meet at one point, which will ultimately turn into a free for all between him, Blackbeard and Luffy. It's the way i see it. On the other hand as mentioned, Akainu has no history between the D vs Celestial Dragons battle that lasted for centuries. He simply has no business in this thing. And yes it's possible Akainu might go down next arc if Oda decides to shift the plot to whatever he is aiming at with Sabo, Vivi and Hancock
 
#10
And who told you Blackbeard's story will end in Raftel. There is a reason why Blackbeard was mentioned to be interested by ancient history, with him being one of Im's targets. They'd meet at one point, which will ultimately turn into a free for all between him, Blackbeard and Luffy. It's the way i see it. On the other hand as mentioned, Akainu has no history between the D vs Celestial Dragons battle that lasted for centuries. He simply has no business in this thing. And yes it's possible Akainu might go down next arc if Oda decides to shift the plot to whatever he is aiming at with Sabo, Vivi and Hancock
The Vivi & Co. stuff is clearly setting up the final war, the same way Ace's capture set up MF. After that we had TB, Sabaody and Impel Down. Now we get Wano, Elbaf, Raftel and then final war.

The final war will see Luffy and allies (Alabasta, Dressrosa, Wano, etc. etc.) fighting for freedom vs. the WG (and the remaining loyal nations).

BB wants to destroy everything and rule over chaos, neither side likes him, he has no business taking part in the war as he'll have zero allies, and the ancient weapons will be needed on the good guys side so BB is left with nothing. He's going down before EOS, he's not the one carrying Roger's will. We have seen with Oden's flashback that getting to Raftel conquering the Grand Line = becoming PK, that's when the SHP and the BBP will fight, there will not be two PK going around. If there ever was any chance of BB being there until EoS then Im existence actually removed that. The WG is the final opponent.
 
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#13
BB is the best final villain candidate, Akainu doesn't even come close to that. It is useless even discuss it. Anyway there is still a chance that a WG guy will be some kind of villain, even final but that at this point would be strange if Oda doesn't manage to build it very well, and that is the master of the masters of Akainu. Moreover Akainu simply lacks the power to come toe to toe with an eos Luffy when he was wiped by an old, sick and wounded Wb. And also didn't have any growth, unlike BB, or portrayal that puts him apart from your average villain in the whole story.
 

Bogard

You can't win
#14
The Vivi & Co. stuff is clearly setting up the final war, the same way Ace's capture set up MF. After that we had TB, Sabaody and Impel Down. Now we get Wano, Elbaf, Raftel and then final war.

The final war will see Luffy and allies (Alabasta, Dressrosa, Wano, etc. etc.) fighting for freedom vs. the WG (and the remaining loyal nations).

BB wants to destroy everything and rule over chaos, neither side likes him, he has no business taking part in the war as he'll have zero allies, and the ancient weapons will be needed on the good guys side so BB is left with nothing. He's going down before EOS, he's not the one carrying Roger's will. We have seen with Oden's flashback that getting to Raftel conquering the Grand Line = becoming PK, that's when the SHP and the BBP will fight, there will not be two PK going around. If there ever was any chance of BB being there until EoS then Im existence actually removed that. The WG is the final opponent.
In TB, Sabaody, Luffy had no idea what happened. In Impel Down it's because Ace was locked there. In this case however, it has been shown before Wano started that Luffy was interested in whatever the revos were going to do with the world government, with news already spreading about something happening to Sabo.

It's only a matter of time until Luffy gets the news and wants to go there himself. It could also set the first meeting between Luffy and Dragon, where they'd ally themselves against the world government, with ultimately Akainu getting taken down at one point, leading to the world government losing their "outside face", but proceeding to the great cleansing where Im/Blackbeard/Luffy might meet. So like you can see, it can all depend on the way Oda would write this

And do you remember how MF happened? We had Whitebeard pirates and allies vs world government, but by the end, Blackbeard came in to get his thing. Oda can easily do something like this, which would be in-character with Blackbeard who always plans ahead.

I got the opposite point of view if anything. Before at least for the world government, Akainu had an argument of being the main villain, but with Im's introduction, it destroyed his status, with Oda going even deeper and deeper with the D vs Celestial Dragon thing, which relates more to Im/Gorosei, Blackbeard and Luffy
 
#15
FYI, Anyway I did not say that he will necessarily be the final villain, just that Luffy will be the one defeating him (I'm leaving space for Gorosei/Im).

And also didn't have any growth, unlike BB, or portrayal that puts him apart from your average villain in the whole story.
No growth?

No portrayal?

Are we talking about One Piece here or what?
 
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#17
how much do you want to bet that Sabo dies next arc?
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there is no reason for Sabo to fight Akainu

Luffy is already a low top tier and wano hasn't even finished. By Wano's end, Luffy will basically be ready to replace Kaido as yonko. At that point, Luffy could just fight akainu himself.

There are pretty big hints that Sabo, hancock, and vivi have been captured. Meaning after wano, there'll probably be a rescue arc that'll pit Luffy against the marines. In all likelihood, Luffy will beat akainu before EoS.

also, plot wise, Sabo has no reason to fight akainu. Sabo wants to remove the celestial dragons, not the marines. Akainu isn't a defender of the celestial dragons, in fact he was blatantly portrayed to be against the gorosei. Frankly, if akainu knew that the celestial dragons were doing secret deals with the yonko, he'd probably join the revolutionaries.
 
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Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
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how much do you want to bet that Sabo dies next arc?
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there is no reason for Sabo to fight Akainu

Luffy is already a low top tier and wano hasn't even finished. By Wano's end, Luffy will basically be ready to replace Kaido as yonko. At that point, Luffy could just fight akainu himself.

There are pretty big hints that Sabo, hancock, and vivi have been captured. Meaning after wano, there'll probably be a rescue arc that'll pit Luffy against the marines. In all likelihood, Luffy will beat akainu before EoS.

also, plot wise, Sabo has no reason to fight akainu. Sabo wants to remove the celestial dragons, not the marines. Akainu isn't a defender of the celestial dragons, in fact he was blatantly portrayed to be against the gorosei. Frankly, if akainu knew that the celestial dragons were doing secret deals with the yonko, he'd probably join the revolutionaries.
I disliked Sabo ever since he ate the Mera. I thought it was completely unnecessary since Ace already was thing. I still remember how bitter and disappointed I was cause Burgess didnt eat it back in early 2014.
 
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