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Gaban literally humiliated Zoro and Luffy according to Nami lmaooo
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That's the Kanji she used describing what Gaban did to both.
Now send me sengoku destroying Luffy when he didn't get past G3 pre ts goofy
I am a consistent man, I made fun of Mihawk for his poor showing, I will do the same with Bumgoku.
No? I literally posted Puck message because he did a good recap of Gaban feats, I didn't even read your message lmao
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That's the Kanji she used describing what Gaban did to both.
Now send me sengoku destroying Luffy when he didn't get past G3 pre ts goofy
I am a consistent man, I made fun of Mihawk for his poor showing, I will do the same with Bumgoku.
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No? I literally posted Puck message because he did a good recap of Gaban feats, I didn't even read your message lmao
It was probably Rayan or Gol D who were willing to die on "all admirals have coc" hill. But you did say several time - I will laugh at Nidai if Pizzaru shows it - which shows you were definitly anticipating it.
Anyway, lets make it very easy for you this time, what about Sanji still doesnt get AdCoC?
I dont care really. We predict, some goes right, some goes wrong.
Anyway, lets make it very easy for you this time, what about Sanji still doesnt get AdCoC?
I dont care really. We predict, some goes right, some goes wrong.
@Nidai_Kitetsu 
You got mr "I was correct about Akainu not having 5 bill bounty" telling you, you were correct for saying Gaban doesn't have CoC, can't make this up the jokes write themselves.
Sanji will get CoC and eventually adCoC.
You got mr "I was correct about Akainu not having 5 bill bounty" telling you, you were correct for saying Gaban doesn't have CoC, can't make this up the jokes write themselves.
Sanji will get CoC and eventually adCoC.
Lmfao idc what Nami said when we saw everything that happened between Gaban, Luffy and Zoro on panel.
Luffy was not only not trying vs Gaban, he straight up wasn't even fighting lmao. If a hysterical Nami wants to call that humiliation then she can but it means absolutely nothing as a power-scaling feat.
Gaban didn't destroy Luffy what 😂 The second they started fighting back he gave up. It's literally on panel go read it lmfao. Gaban didn't do anything against Luffy and Zoro that would be considered particularly impressive for a man who was top-tier in his prime, all he did was get his attack blocked and push them to fight seriously.
I have no idea why you're mentioning Sengoku vs pre-TS Luffy as if even a serious high-tier couldn't have one-shotted pre-TS Luffy if they wanted. It's plot-induced; it's like me downplaying Gaban cos he was one-shotted by Gunko.
Sengoku doesn't have poor showings, he has no real showings. Massive difference. Narratively, he was a high top-tier in his prime with at least similar potential as prime Big Mom, being that it was stated she could be strong enough to become FA.
Luffy was not only not trying vs Gaban, he straight up wasn't even fighting lmao. If a hysterical Nami wants to call that humiliation then she can but it means absolutely nothing as a power-scaling feat.
Gaban didn't destroy Luffy what 😂 The second they started fighting back he gave up. It's literally on panel go read it lmfao. Gaban didn't do anything against Luffy and Zoro that would be considered particularly impressive for a man who was top-tier in his prime, all he did was get his attack blocked and push them to fight seriously.
I have no idea why you're mentioning Sengoku vs pre-TS Luffy as if even a serious high-tier couldn't have one-shotted pre-TS Luffy if they wanted. It's plot-induced; it's like me downplaying Gaban cos he was one-shotted by Gunko.
Sengoku doesn't have poor showings, he has no real showings. Massive difference. Narratively, he was a high top-tier in his prime with at least similar potential as prime Big Mom, being that it was stated she could be strong enough to become FA.
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He thinks Sanji unlocks CoC in Elbaf
Even if you can make a valid claim King is tiers above Queen in terms of feats and narrative, it doesn't matter for Sanji, because he'll will always be in the conversation because Oda designed him to be.
Sanji can fight weaker enemies, even significantly weaker enemies, and still eventually catch up in terms of power.
I think Queen being significantly weaker (lets say 2/3 tiers at most) than King would not be a bad thing , because it adds nuance and makes the world feel more real, otherwise every set of opposition for Zoro and Sanji would just be a copy and paste of Kaku and Jabra
Copy and Pasta Kaku and Jabra, copy and paste their doriki levels, and then reiterate them and you have King and Queen. This is boring.
Sanji says essentially that he was worried about being taken over by Zoro and Jinbei, and this could fit in the narrative that somewhere along the line, Sanji could have a notably weaker enemy than Zoro and simply not progress enough and almost be left behind (for example queen), and then make that kind of statement, only to be given the opportunity for signifcant growth in elbaph and solidify his strength again.
I don't see anything wrong with this, it goes in line with jinbei's bounty being higher, it goes in line with sanji's worry.
Sanji can fight weaker enemies, even significantly weaker enemies, and still eventually catch up in terms of power.
I think Queen being significantly weaker (lets say 2/3 tiers at most) than King would not be a bad thing , because it adds nuance and makes the world feel more real, otherwise every set of opposition for Zoro and Sanji would just be a copy and paste of Kaku and Jabra
Copy and Pasta Kaku and Jabra, copy and paste their doriki levels, and then reiterate them and you have King and Queen. This is boring.
Sanji says essentially that he was worried about being taken over by Zoro and Jinbei, and this could fit in the narrative that somewhere along the line, Sanji could have a notably weaker enemy than Zoro and simply not progress enough and almost be left behind (for example queen), and then make that kind of statement, only to be given the opportunity for signifcant growth in elbaph and solidify his strength again.
I don't see anything wrong with this, it goes in line with jinbei's bounty being higher, it goes in line with sanji's worry.
Zoro did a big mom and was sweating for cocless attack, luffy literally shit his pants for gaban haki (again NO COC).
How is this unimpressive? Sweatgoku doesn't even have FS confirmed. So yeah, gaban is impressive, especially when he got all types of Advanced haki when other top tier do not.
he isn't that much tiers below btw, I think queen for narrative and portray would at least require him to be closer to king than he is to jack, and i think for scaling he would at very least be a mid diff.
while yeah I think queen low diffs jack actually
How is this unimpressive? Sweatgoku doesn't even have FS confirmed. So yeah, gaban is impressive, especially when he got all types of Advanced haki when other top tier do not.
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he isn't that much tiers below btw, I think queen for narrative and portray would at least require him to be closer to king than he is to jack, and i think for scaling he would at very least be a mid diff.
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while yeah I think queen low diffs jack actually
Okay, bear in mind we know for a fact that all Zoro's absolute strongest attack could do to Kaido was a thin scar, so the attack that BM was scared of definitely wouldn't have done much to Kaido at all in the end.
Meaning scaling attack strength off of facial expressions is a terrible method of power-scaling. If that's all you've got for Gaban > Sengoku then that's nothing at all.
Why does Sengoku even need FS? It's not like FS users > non-FS users. Garp doesn't have FS confirmed either and he's definitely stronger than Gaban, same goes for Rayleigh, Rocks, Shiki etc...
Gaban doesn't have all types of advanced haki; he doesn't have ID CoA. Furthermore, you know who does have all types of advanced haki? 1010 Luffy who's not even a mid top-tier. Simply having more types of haki doesn't make you stronger than other characters.
In the end, you cannot show a single feat of strength from Gaban that's so impressive that you can't gift it to another old legend because Gaban hasn't actually done much. It's great that he has all colours and great that he can hurt immortals, but who here seriously believes any old legend is struggling with Sommers (his best and p much only feat).
Meaning scaling attack strength off of facial expressions is a terrible method of power-scaling. If that's all you've got for Gaban > Sengoku then that's nothing at all.
Why does Sengoku even need FS? It's not like FS users > non-FS users. Garp doesn't have FS confirmed either and he's definitely stronger than Gaban, same goes for Rayleigh, Rocks, Shiki etc...
Gaban doesn't have all types of advanced haki; he doesn't have ID CoA. Furthermore, you know who does have all types of advanced haki? 1010 Luffy who's not even a mid top-tier. Simply having more types of haki doesn't make you stronger than other characters.
In the end, you cannot show a single feat of strength from Gaban that's so impressive that you can't gift it to another old legend because Gaban hasn't actually done much. It's great that he has all colours and great that he can hurt immortals, but who here seriously believes any old legend is struggling with Sommers (his best and p much only feat).
Not really. Oda made Eustass and Kira avoid shanks on purpose and they expected a much closer fight judging by kaido and big mom.
ODA wanted to portray Shansk and teach as the guys who can easily defeat previous yonko slayers.
Also loki got better portray than kaido and Shanks defeated loki
ODA wanted to portray Shansk and teach as the guys who can easily defeat previous yonko slayers.
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Also loki got better portray than kaido and Shanks defeated loki