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This troll hate BB beating Ace so much he keep bumping this thread consistently and provide no arguments as well. 
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Keep crying, Ace was stronger than Yamato, and Warlord BB > Ace > Yamato.
BB without DF scarred Shanks for a reason. BB toys with his opponents at the beginning then gets serious, BB blitzed G2 Luffy when he got serious. He is a different character, if you think BB toying with his opponents shows power levels you simply have no idea how to read.
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Keep crying, Ace was stronger than Yamato, and Warlord BB > Ace > Yamato.
BB without DF scarred Shanks for a reason. BB toys with his opponents at the beginning then gets serious, BB blitzed G2 Luffy when he got serious. He is a different character, if you think BB toying with his opponents shows power levels you simply have no idea how to read.
This troll hate BB beating Ace so much he keep bumping this thread consistently and provide no arguments as well.
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Keep crying, Ace was stronger than Yamato, and Warlord BB > Ace > Yamato.
BB without DF scarred Shanks for a reason. BB toys with his opponents at the beginning then gets serious, BB blitzed G2 Luffy when he got serious. He is a different character, if you think BB toying with his opponents shows power levels you simply have no idea how to read.
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Keep crying, Ace was stronger than Yamato, and Warlord BB > Ace > Yamato.
BB without DF scarred Shanks for a reason. BB toys with his opponents at the beginning then gets serious, BB blitzed G2 Luffy when he got serious. He is a different character, if you think BB toying with his opponents shows power levels you simply have no idea how to read.
Refute the argument.
>Blackbead was physically better than Ace.
>luffy beat blackbeard in physicals
>post timeskip g2 luffy was outsped by hyozou the octopus.
>hyozou is faster than Ace.
>Give him haki and he claps
This is all from the manga and backed up by the panels I posted. Post panels proving im wrong.
Already debunked it troll.
G2 Luffy punching BB while he was toying is no different than him punching Garp. Did PreTS G2 Luffy beat Garp in physicals too?
Teach took Shock Wille same as Big mom whose physical stats are top tier, as well as took WB's 2 attacks and still didn't get KOed while Akainu got KOed by 2 attacks from WB.
Jinbe was physically better than Post TS G2 Luffy
Ace beat Jinbe then fought WB.
BB reacted at Hiken more than his weaker crew, thats when BB was toying and not taking it serious. Once he got serious Ace's attacks didn't work.
G2 Luffy punching BB while he was toying is no different than him punching Garp. Did PreTS G2 Luffy beat Garp in physicals too?
Teach took Shock Wille same as Big mom whose physical stats are top tier, as well as took WB's 2 attacks and still didn't get KOed while Akainu got KOed by 2 attacks from WB.
Jinbe was physically better than Post TS G2 Luffy
Ace beat Jinbe then fought WB.
BB reacted at Hiken more than his weaker crew, thats when BB was toying and not taking it serious. Once he got serious Ace's attacks didn't work.
Already debunked it troll.
G2 Luffy punching BB while he was toying is no different than him punching Garp. Did PreTS G2 Luffy beat Garp in physicals too?
Teach took Shock Wille same as Big mom whose physical stats are top tier, as well as took WB's 2 attacks and still didn't get KOed while Akainu got KOed by 2 attacks from WB.
Jinbe was physically better than Post TS G2 Luffy
Ace beat Jinbe then fought WB.
BB reacted at Hiken more than his weaker crew, thats when BB was toying and not taking it serious. Once he got serious Ace's attacks didn't work.
G2 Luffy punching BB while he was toying is no different than him punching Garp. Did PreTS G2 Luffy beat Garp in physicals too?
Teach took Shock Wille same as Big mom whose physical stats are top tier, as well as took WB's 2 attacks and still didn't get KOed while Akainu got KOed by 2 attacks from WB.
Jinbe was physically better than Post TS G2 Luffy
Ace beat Jinbe then fought WB.
BB reacted at Hiken more than his weaker crew, thats when BB was toying and not taking it serious. Once he got serious Ace's attacks didn't work.
You sound like a fool pretending the garp situation is the same. Garp had a lapse in judgement after thinking about luffy and chose not to follow through with stopping luffy.
Dropping your defenses mid attack on purpose is completely different compared to blackbeard being on guard and ready to fight.
What do your panels have to do with anything?
Is this looks like being ''on guard''?
He was definitely not on guard.Its clear Teach wasn't expecting Luffy attacking him suddenly with G2.
This is how he was on guard;
Exact same thing as Ace fight, Ace's attacks were working when he wasn't on guard.
Before not being on guard;
After being ''on guard'';
Later Ace's island size attacks didn't work on Teach's defense when he was serious:
Teach blitzed G2 speed when he was serious.
For Teach, saying that Luffy should be grateful to Ace isn't talking shit, its a fact lmao.
Anyone who has average IQ can see who sounds like a fool since you make this pathetic thread.
Garp wasn't on guard, Teach wasn't on guard as well. The reasons why they weren't on guard doesn't matter.
Also similar to Squardo and East Blue Sea Beast damaging WB or Shanks when they weren't on guard.
Teach wasn't on guard, you lying about this won't make this fanfic true.
We know Teach can take Ace's island size attacks, WB's Naginata + Quake combo, Sengoku's attacks and still fights like nothing happened.
His defenses while being on guard is top tier, we also see him took a Shock Wille better than even a physical tank like BM as well as SHawk's mountain slash didn't even scratch Teach.
No responses for Ace blocking Yamato's Haki imbued attacks with barehands?
Or that beating Jinbe,
Then beating another Warlord Hanafuda who fought Kaido before?
Or even when he was nerfed;
Nerfed to a degree that he is constantly panting when he wasn't even fighting anyone;
He still blocks Aokiji's attack from behind ;
As well as still moves faster than Akainu when he directly clashed with Akainu's magma right before this, and still takes no heavy damage from the first clash despite also being nerfed?
If you weren't insecure and biased about Ace, you wouldn't consistently bump this pathetic thread with no arguments lmao.
Is this looks like being ''on guard''?
He was definitely not on guard.Its clear Teach wasn't expecting Luffy attacking him suddenly with G2.
This is how he was on guard;
Exact same thing as Ace fight, Ace's attacks were working when he wasn't on guard.
Before not being on guard;
After being ''on guard'';
Later Ace's island size attacks didn't work on Teach's defense when he was serious:
Teach blitzed G2 speed when he was serious.
For Teach, saying that Luffy should be grateful to Ace isn't talking shit, its a fact lmao.
Anyone who has average IQ can see who sounds like a fool since you make this pathetic thread.
Garp wasn't on guard, Teach wasn't on guard as well. The reasons why they weren't on guard doesn't matter.
Also similar to Squardo and East Blue Sea Beast damaging WB or Shanks when they weren't on guard.
Teach wasn't on guard, you lying about this won't make this fanfic true.
We know Teach can take Ace's island size attacks, WB's Naginata + Quake combo, Sengoku's attacks and still fights like nothing happened.
His defenses while being on guard is top tier, we also see him took a Shock Wille better than even a physical tank like BM as well as SHawk's mountain slash didn't even scratch Teach.
No responses for Ace blocking Yamato's Haki imbued attacks with barehands?
Or that beating Jinbe,
Then beating another Warlord Hanafuda who fought Kaido before?
Or even when he was nerfed;
Nerfed to a degree that he is constantly panting when he wasn't even fighting anyone;
He still blocks Aokiji's attack from behind ;
As well as still moves faster than Akainu when he directly clashed with Akainu's magma right before this, and still takes no heavy damage from the first clash despite also being nerfed?
If you weren't insecure and biased about Ace, you wouldn't consistently bump this pathetic thread with no arguments lmao.
Let me walk you through this. You started with a false equivalency fallacy by comparing garp and blackbeard
This is a false equivalency because garp chose to drop his defenses mid combat
You're a lying sack of shit and cropped the panel to hide the flashback of luffy, MAKING HIM HESITATE
Which is why sengoku yells "GARP"
Look at garp close his eyes for luffy
Blackbeard was staring at luffy and trying to piss him off, expecting an attack for his words.
He told him his brother was going to die and he should thank him
He didnt expect luffy to be so fast and so strong hence hes on guard but relaxed
He watches luffy go into gear 2. Knowing an attack is coming as luffy gets into a battle position
Blackbeard is then outsped by gear 2. Luffy shit on him in physicals.
This is my original argument. This is what I said when starting the thread.
Prove this speed analysis wrong. Show me how luffy is far slower than Ace or blackbeard in the canon. You cant.
Luffy put blackbeard on his fuckin back
Imagine that. All of blackbeards crew is surprised by the speed blitz and ferocity of the attack
Idiot
Ace got outsped by this same blackbeard and nearly had his neck broken here
Im not saying that blackbeard is slow. Im not saying Ace is slow. Im saying g2 luffy is fast and so is hyozou from fishman island. Give the octopus some haki and he destroys fodder fist Ace.
Teach didnt blitz g2 in this panel
Teach blitzed G2 speed when he was serious.
Look at the blood on blackbeards face. Luffy did some damage as I claimed. One solid g2 hit rocked blackbeards world. Ace is fodder.
I can explain oda retroactively bringing Ace back as his golden child and elevating him to Yamato's level. I also view yamato as pretty weak. Around king and queens level. A little higher.
Ace went even with smoker and was slower than jimbei when it came to fighting akainu. Ace is dogshit
You lied multiple times and brought up a bunch of panels that dont even support your argument.
Adress my initial claims instead of throwing panels of fodder at me and pretending it proves your case. Your argument was dog shit.
Funny thing is, this clown here consistently bumps this pathetic thread due to his insecurity since no one else bump this thread,
then he calls people who tells him he is a clown for this thread are idiots, he has an interesting mindset.
First of all watch your mouth keyboard warrior, I guarantee you wouldn't be talking like this in real life. You are the lying clown here everyone can see your pathetic lowballing thread and how only you bump this thread consistently without putting any arguments no one else, which is pathetic, you are obsessed about this since no one agreeing with your nonsense, and insecure about this thread thats why you alone keep bumping this only to get slapped more by people and reality.
Second of all, do you even read posts you little troll? I literally said Garp wasn't on guard because he let Luffy punch him, and Teach wasn't on guard because he wasn't expecting Luffy to attack him while they were talking, its that simple. You argued for nothing, of course Garp wasn't on guard. I said the same, only that his reasoning was different, and Teach's reasoning for being off-guard was different as he wasn't planning to fight Luffy there.
I talked about Teach's mindset, for Teach telling Luffy to be thankful for his brother is truth, not something Luffy should be pissed off, Teach wasn't trying to piss Luffy off, he was just talking thats it.
He watches what? Are you talking about something else? Luffy suddenly attacks him with G2 while they were still talking;
Its a sneak attack, Luffy is literally still talking during his attack as Teach thought they werent fighting, Luffy says; ''then why don't you... *goes to G2* try me now!! *hits him*''
Literally there is no other way to trick someone in the middle of talking as if they were still talking then Luffy sucker punches Teach with G2, thats it.
So Teach was offguard when he got hit, you can't run your mouth and you can't make power levels out of this, when you do, people laugh at you and debunk your nonsense easily.
Shanks got ''outsped'' by Dfless Teach as well something Mihawk couldn't do, Teach is fast thats it. You thinking Luffy sucker punching Teach by G2 is a very dumb argument as proven above.
Teach blitzed G2 when he got serious;
Luffy literally says ''Gomu gomu no Jet...'' in the middle of Luffy's attack, Teach tags G2 Luffy and pulls him, moves faster than G2, blitzed him when he got serious, not the otherway around based on Luffy sucker punching him in the middle of their talk.
When you say ''Yamato is weak'' you proven to be a clown once again. Yamato isn't weak.
As for your other clown arguments;
- Teach took attacks from Shanks, Ace's island level attacks (that Jinbe couldn't take), WB, Sengoku, Law's Shock Wille etc and kept fighting like nothing happened. Same WB 2 shotted Akainu but couldn't 2 shot Teach.
If Teach was at a level that he would get hurt by PreTS Luffy's G2, then he would definitely get more damaged than Akainu and would be KOed for long time after taking 2 attacks from WB. But instead immediately used his pistol and shot WB something Akainu failed after taking 2 attacks.
This alone proves how clown your argument is, I don't even need to mention other attacks.
then he calls people who tells him he is a clown for this thread are idiots, he has an interesting mindset.
First of all watch your mouth keyboard warrior, I guarantee you wouldn't be talking like this in real life. You are the lying clown here everyone can see your pathetic lowballing thread and how only you bump this thread consistently without putting any arguments no one else, which is pathetic, you are obsessed about this since no one agreeing with your nonsense, and insecure about this thread thats why you alone keep bumping this only to get slapped more by people and reality.
Second of all, do you even read posts you little troll? I literally said Garp wasn't on guard because he let Luffy punch him, and Teach wasn't on guard because he wasn't expecting Luffy to attack him while they were talking, its that simple. You argued for nothing, of course Garp wasn't on guard. I said the same, only that his reasoning was different, and Teach's reasoning for being off-guard was different as he wasn't planning to fight Luffy there.
I talked about Teach's mindset, for Teach telling Luffy to be thankful for his brother is truth, not something Luffy should be pissed off, Teach wasn't trying to piss Luffy off, he was just talking thats it.
He watches luffy go into gear 2. Knowing an attack is coming as luffy gets into a battle position
Blackbeard is then outsped by gear 2. Luffy shit on him in physicals.
This is my original argument. This is what I said when starting the thread.
Prove this speed analysis wrong. Show me how luffy is far slower than Ace or blackbeard in the canon. You cant.
Luffy put blackbeard on his fuckin back
Imagine that. All of blackbeards crew is surprised by the speed blitz and ferocity of the attack
Idiot
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Blackbeard is then outsped by gear 2. Luffy shit on him in physicals.
This is my original argument. This is what I said when starting the thread.
Prove this speed analysis wrong. Show me how luffy is far slower than Ace or blackbeard in the canon. You cant.
Luffy put blackbeard on his fuckin back
Imagine that. All of blackbeards crew is surprised by the speed blitz and ferocity of the attack
Idiot
.
Its a sneak attack, Luffy is literally still talking during his attack as Teach thought they werent fighting, Luffy says; ''then why don't you... *goes to G2* try me now!! *hits him*''
Literally there is no other way to trick someone in the middle of talking as if they were still talking then Luffy sucker punches Teach with G2, thats it.
So Teach was offguard when he got hit, you can't run your mouth and you can't make power levels out of this, when you do, people laugh at you and debunk your nonsense easily.
Shanks got ''outsped'' by Dfless Teach as well something Mihawk couldn't do, Teach is fast thats it. You thinking Luffy sucker punching Teach by G2 is a very dumb argument as proven above.
Teach blitzed G2 when he got serious;
Luffy literally says ''Gomu gomu no Jet...'' in the middle of Luffy's attack, Teach tags G2 Luffy and pulls him, moves faster than G2, blitzed him when he got serious, not the otherway around based on Luffy sucker punching him in the middle of their talk.
When you say ''Yamato is weak'' you proven to be a clown once again. Yamato isn't weak.
As for your other clown arguments;
- Teach took attacks from Shanks, Ace's island level attacks (that Jinbe couldn't take), WB, Sengoku, Law's Shock Wille etc and kept fighting like nothing happened. Same WB 2 shotted Akainu but couldn't 2 shot Teach.
If Teach was at a level that he would get hurt by PreTS Luffy's G2, then he would definitely get more damaged than Akainu and would be KOed for long time after taking 2 attacks from WB. But instead immediately used his pistol and shot WB something Akainu failed after taking 2 attacks.
This alone proves how clown your argument is, I don't even need to mention other attacks.
Still the most glorious panel in one piss
Funny thing is, this clown here consistently bumps this pathetic thread due to his insecurity since no one else bump this thread,
then he calls people who tells him he is a clown for this thread are idiots, he has an interesting mindset.
First of all watch your mouth keyboard warrior, I guarantee you wouldn't be talking like this in real life. You are the lying clown here everyone can see your pathetic lowballing thread and how only you bump this thread consistently without putting any arguments no one else, which is pathetic, you are obsessed about this since no one agreeing with your nonsense, and insecure about this thread thats why you alone keep bumping this only to get slapped more by people and reality.
Second of all, do you even read posts you little troll? I literally said Garp wasn't on guard because he let Luffy punch him, and Teach wasn't on guard because he wasn't expecting Luffy to attack him while they were talking, its that simple. You argued for nothing, of course Garp wasn't on guard. I said the same, only that his reasoning was different, and Teach's reasoning for being off-guard was different as he wasn't planning to fight Luffy there.
I talked about Teach's mindset, for Teach telling Luffy to be thankful for his brother is truth, not something Luffy should be pissed off, Teach wasn't trying to piss Luffy off, he was just talking thats it.
He watches what? Are you talking about something else? Luffy suddenly attacks him with G2 while they were still talking;
Its a sneak attack, Luffy is literally still talking during his attack as Teach thought they werent fighting, Luffy says; ''then why don't you... *goes to G2* try me now!! *hits him*''
Literally there is no other way to trick someone in the middle of talking as if they were still talking then Luffy sucker punches Teach with G2, thats it.
So Teach was offguard when he got hit, you can't run your mouth and you can't make power levels out of this, when you do, people laugh at you and debunk your nonsense easily.
Shanks got ''outsped'' by Dfless Teach as well something Mihawk couldn't do, Teach is fast thats it. You thinking Luffy sucker punching Teach by G2 is a very dumb argument as proven above.
Teach blitzed G2 when he got serious;
Luffy literally says ''Gomu gomu no Jet...'' in the middle of Luffy's attack, Teach tags G2 Luffy and pulls him, moves faster than G2, blitzed him when he got serious, not the otherway around based on Luffy sucker punching him in the middle of their talk.
When you say ''Yamato is weak'' you proven to be a clown once again. Yamato isn't weak.
As for your other clown arguments;
- Teach took attacks from Shanks, Ace's island level attacks (that Jinbe couldn't take), WB, Sengoku, Law's Shock Wille etc and kept fighting like nothing happened. Same WB 2 shotted Akainu but couldn't 2 shot Teach.
If Teach was at a level that he would get hurt by PreTS Luffy's G2, then he would definitely get more damaged than Akainu and would be KOed for long time after taking 2 attacks from WB. But instead immediately used his pistol and shot WB something Akainu failed after taking 2 attacks.
This alone proves how clown your argument is, I don't even need to mention other attacks.
then he calls people who tells him he is a clown for this thread are idiots, he has an interesting mindset.
First of all watch your mouth keyboard warrior, I guarantee you wouldn't be talking like this in real life. You are the lying clown here everyone can see your pathetic lowballing thread and how only you bump this thread consistently without putting any arguments no one else, which is pathetic, you are obsessed about this since no one agreeing with your nonsense, and insecure about this thread thats why you alone keep bumping this only to get slapped more by people and reality.
Second of all, do you even read posts you little troll? I literally said Garp wasn't on guard because he let Luffy punch him, and Teach wasn't on guard because he wasn't expecting Luffy to attack him while they were talking, its that simple. You argued for nothing, of course Garp wasn't on guard. I said the same, only that his reasoning was different, and Teach's reasoning for being off-guard was different as he wasn't planning to fight Luffy there.
I talked about Teach's mindset, for Teach telling Luffy to be thankful for his brother is truth, not something Luffy should be pissed off, Teach wasn't trying to piss Luffy off, he was just talking thats it.
He watches what? Are you talking about something else? Luffy suddenly attacks him with G2 while they were still talking;
Its a sneak attack, Luffy is literally still talking during his attack as Teach thought they werent fighting, Luffy says; ''then why don't you... *goes to G2* try me now!! *hits him*''
Literally there is no other way to trick someone in the middle of talking as if they were still talking then Luffy sucker punches Teach with G2, thats it.
So Teach was offguard when he got hit, you can't run your mouth and you can't make power levels out of this, when you do, people laugh at you and debunk your nonsense easily.
Shanks got ''outsped'' by Dfless Teach as well something Mihawk couldn't do, Teach is fast thats it. You thinking Luffy sucker punching Teach by G2 is a very dumb argument as proven above.
Teach blitzed G2 when he got serious;
Luffy literally says ''Gomu gomu no Jet...'' in the middle of Luffy's attack, Teach tags G2 Luffy and pulls him, moves faster than G2, blitzed him when he got serious, not the otherway around based on Luffy sucker punching him in the middle of their talk.
When you say ''Yamato is weak'' you proven to be a clown once again. Yamato isn't weak.
As for your other clown arguments;
- Teach took attacks from Shanks, Ace's island level attacks (that Jinbe couldn't take), WB, Sengoku, Law's Shock Wille etc and kept fighting like nothing happened. Same WB 2 shotted Akainu but couldn't 2 shot Teach.
If Teach was at a level that he would get hurt by PreTS Luffy's G2, then he would definitely get more damaged than Akainu and would be KOed for long time after taking 2 attacks from WB. But instead immediately used his pistol and shot WB something Akainu failed after taking 2 attacks.
This alone proves how clown your argument is, I don't even need to mention other attacks.
I proved how you lied. I also showed the full panel exposing your deception. You used garp as a comparison. I called out the inconsistencies of the comparison
Haha. Playing the role of a female. Typical of erkan here.
If you claim that blackbeard wasnt expecting an attack then why did he watch luffy put his fist on the ground and go gear 2 while telling him he was going to attack?
He watched luffy get into battle position.
Black beard thought he was fast enough and got blitsed. Youre a clown who can't stop crying about it.
Liar
He was laughing at luffy and trying to piss him off. Then he watched luffy go into g2 and battle stance.
When your opponent goes into a new mode and and moves really fast to transform do you think you'd be caught by surprise?
As we can see Teach notched luffy go into gear 2. Its in the panel.
You're interpretation is dogshit. The anime also confirms im correct. Here's a link
We dont know if blackbeard outsped Shanks. That's your headcanon
Is this looks like being ''on guard''?
He was definitely not on guard.Its clear Teach wasn't expecting Luffy attacking him suddenly with G2.
This is how he was on guard;
Exact same thing as Ace fight, Ace's attacks were working when he wasn't on guard.
Before not being on guard;
After being ''on guard'';
Later Ace's island size attacks didn't work on Teach's defense when he was serious:
Teach blitzed G2 speed when he was serious.
For Teach, saying that Luffy should be grateful to Ace isn't talking shit, its a fact lmao.
Anyone who has average IQ can see who sounds like a fool since you make this pathetic thread.
Garp wasn't on guard, Teach wasn't on guard as well. The reasons why they weren't on guard doesn't matter.
Also similar to Squardo and East Blue Sea Beast damaging WB or Shanks when they weren't on guard.
Teach wasn't on guard, you lying about this won't make this fanfic true.
We know Teach can take Ace's island size attacks, WB's Naginata + Quake combo, Sengoku's attacks and still fights like nothing happened.
His defenses while being on guard is top tier, we also see him took a Shock Wille better than even a physical tank like BM as well as SHawk's mountain slash didn't even scratch Teach.
No responses for Ace blocking Yamato's Haki imbued attacks with barehands?
Or that beating Jinbe,
Then beating another Warlord Hanafuda who fought Kaido before?
Or even when he was nerfed;
Nerfed to a degree that he is constantly panting when he wasn't even fighting anyone;
He still blocks Aokiji's attack from behind ;
As well as still moves faster than Akainu when he directly clashed with Akainu's magma right before this, and still takes no heavy damage from the first clash despite also being nerfed?
If you weren't insecure and biased about Ace, you wouldn't consistently bump this pathetic thread with no arguments lmao.
