Character Discussion Fuck Kaido as a character
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Kaido will fight blackbeard when his crew invades wano for pluton.
Teach will place himself as de facto final villain after beating shanks, kaido and linlin.
Weak attack? That was the strongest pirate with strongest conqueror haki, its normal for people to shit their pants and run, that's exactly what happened to kaido in marineford.
Teach will place himself as de facto final villain after beating shanks, kaido and linlin.
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Weak attack? That was the strongest pirate with strongest conqueror haki, its normal for people to shit their pants and run, that's exactly what happened to kaido in marineford.
lol cool down i never said he had the best flashback, but he sure got whole lots of chapters for his suffering.
Characters like him shouldn't have a fb and it still be ok...
The main role of Kaido in these story is strength and power.
He's legit hardcore villain that pretty much have no or doesn't need justification on how he's gone bad.....
He's just there in the story to be the bad guy........he got the strength and power inexchange for the lack of so-called character at least.
We just want a villain to have a deep emotional backstory on why they become this and that.
You see, just like how the Joker movie was adorned by many ppl.....
I don't personally care about it.
Character like BB are already interesting to me even without backstory, they do not need justification, they're just evil and enjoy chaos, that's just about it.
And i hope Oda doesn't do any emotional well justified backstory for him.....
The main role of Kaido in these story is strength and power.
He's legit hardcore villain that pretty much have no or doesn't need justification on how he's gone bad.....
He's just there in the story to be the bad guy........he got the strength and power inexchange for the lack of so-called character at least.
We just want a villain to have a deep emotional backstory on why they become this and that.
You see, just like how the Joker movie was adorned by many ppl.....
I don't personally care about it.
Character like BB are already interesting to me even without backstory, they do not need justification, they're just evil and enjoy chaos, that's just about it.
And i hope Oda doesn't do any emotional well justified backstory for him.....
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Characters like him shouldn't have a fb and it still be ok...
The main role of Kaido in these story is strength and power.
He's legit hardcore villain that pretty much have no or doesn't need justification on how he's gone bad.....
He's just there in the story to be bad the bad guy........he got the strength and power inexchange for the lack of so-called character at least.
We just want a villain to have a deep emotional backstory on why they become this and that.
You see, just like how the Joker movie was adorned by many ppl.....
I don't personally care about it.
Character like BB are already interesting to me even without backstory, they do not need justification, they're just evil and enjoy chaos, that's just about it.
And i hope Oda doesn't do any emotional well justified backstory for him.....
The main role of Kaido in these story is strength and power.
He's legit hardcore villain that pretty much have no or doesn't need justification on how he's gone bad.....
He's just there in the story to be bad the bad guy........he got the strength and power inexchange for the lack of so-called character at least.
We just want a villain to have a deep emotional backstory on why they become this and that.
You see, just like how the Joker movie was adorned by many ppl.....
I don't personally care about it.
Character like BB are already interesting to me even without backstory, they do not need justification, they're just evil and enjoy chaos, that's just about it.
And i hope Oda doesn't do any emotional well justified backstory for him.....
I love when Kaido fans act like the amount of piss poor writing Oda tortured fans with for 4 years is fine because “Kaido was never supposed to be deep” lol
Hara spent 20 chapters on Gaimou and already wrote a far more complex and functioning character than Oda did in 300 chapters of Wano. You don’t need 4 years to write a deep character, Gaimou was deep in 20 chapters and didn’t even need a backstory to be deep.
Hell Oda has written great villains with no backstory. Crocodile is an example of that. And Crocodile wasn’t deep or complex, he was just a functioning villain with an identifiable character and an understandable motive. Not even close to what we got with Kaido lol. You want the longest arc to have an actual villain? “Stop asking questions, you dumb child”-brilliant character writing according to TAC
I said from the start that no backstory could save Kaido and I’m almost grateful that Oda didn’t even try. Kaido’s backstory was like Oda’s way of saying “fuck it, here’s a backstory so my fans will realize that I cannot possibly save this character” lol.
Hara spent 20 chapters on Gaimou and already wrote a far more complex and functioning character than Oda did in 300 chapters of Wano. You don’t need 4 years to write a deep character, Gaimou was deep in 20 chapters and didn’t even need a backstory to be deep.
Hell Oda has written great villains with no backstory. Crocodile is an example of that. And Crocodile wasn’t deep or complex, he was just a functioning villain with an identifiable character and an understandable motive. Not even close to what we got with Kaido lol. You want the longest arc to have an actual villain? “Stop asking questions, you dumb child”-brilliant character writing according to TAC
I said from the start that no backstory could save Kaido and I’m almost grateful that Oda didn’t even try. Kaido’s backstory was like Oda’s way of saying “fuck it, here’s a backstory so my fans will realize that I cannot possibly save this character” lol.
People claiming Kaido doesn't need a backstory because he isn't a "complex character" are just coping about how garbage Kaido is. Lacking character complexity is not a problem. Few OP antagonists are complex, sympathetic characters. They are generally unrepentant, evil arse holes. Lol.
So a lack of "complexity" is not a reason why Kaido sucks.
Back to the backstory argument. Funny thing is, someone very important thought that Kaido did in fact need a backstory. That someone is Oda cause he went and gave him one. Problem is, said backstory was mediocre, especially for an endgame antagonist that should have represented the pinnacle of piracy and was hyped up by the author for over a decade just to get a backstory that gets shat on by Senor Pink's backstory, a backstory for a character that isn't even amongst the higher ranking subordinates of a Warlord. Kaido was treated like he was Baby 5 in terms of backstory relevance.
So Oda did far worse than give Kaido no backstory, he gave him a mediocre backstory. Lol.
So a lack of "complexity" is not a reason why Kaido sucks.
Back to the backstory argument. Funny thing is, someone very important thought that Kaido did in fact need a backstory. That someone is Oda cause he went and gave him one. Problem is, said backstory was mediocre, especially for an endgame antagonist that should have represented the pinnacle of piracy and was hyped up by the author for over a decade just to get a backstory that gets shat on by Senor Pink's backstory, a backstory for a character that isn't even amongst the higher ranking subordinates of a Warlord. Kaido was treated like he was Baby 5 in terms of backstory relevance.
So Oda did far worse than give Kaido no backstory, he gave him a mediocre backstory. Lol.
Kaido is strength personified and a direct example that being Pirate King isnt just about being the strongest on the seas. Bro was born with that dog in him, and grew up chasing that smoke.
He did not jump off that Sky Island genuinely believing it had a shot to kill him, he thought that maybe if he nerfed himself the shitters below could give him a good fight. He drinks so much, because, like Zoro, he likes drinking! Even has a whole drunk master series of hybrid forms.
He's a brutal dragon emperor straight out of eastern legends, and for the most part their strength is their defining feature.
I like Kaido, and I can understand people wanting a more involved backstory like Doflamingos. But tbh I feel Kaido actually being some sad boy or 9th level intellect ruins his character on a fundamental level. His lack of sympathy for the weak makes less sense, and his hobby of collecting powerful enemies for his crew becomes a logistical blunder, rather than an intentional feature of his crew.
Anyways, all Kaido's narratively interesting stuff happened with ROCKs so we still have more to learn about Kaido's days as a cabin boy. Not to mention having that in Wano further bloats the arc.
He did not jump off that Sky Island genuinely believing it had a shot to kill him, he thought that maybe if he nerfed himself the shitters below could give him a good fight. He drinks so much, because, like Zoro, he likes drinking! Even has a whole drunk master series of hybrid forms.
He's a brutal dragon emperor straight out of eastern legends, and for the most part their strength is their defining feature.
I like Kaido, and I can understand people wanting a more involved backstory like Doflamingos. But tbh I feel Kaido actually being some sad boy or 9th level intellect ruins his character on a fundamental level. His lack of sympathy for the weak makes less sense, and his hobby of collecting powerful enemies for his crew becomes a logistical blunder, rather than an intentional feature of his crew.
Anyways, all Kaido's narratively interesting stuff happened with ROCKs so we still have more to learn about Kaido's days as a cabin boy. Not to mention having that in Wano further bloats the arc.
