Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Damn, just notice that you didn't even tag me in the spoilers tag list @Shanks :josad::josad:Ditching your boy like that.:suresure:

But it's fine cuz I don't usually follow spoilers unless it's hyped or worth seeing.:moonwalk:

So it seems like Kanki might die/defeated soon. It would be a good way to end the year with Kanki getting defeated in the last chapter of December, if not then we can start off 2023 with Kanki's defeat.:kuzanshut:

Btw, something that I'm curious about.
In one of the articles I read, it said that Huan Yi (Kanki) got defeated then retreated to Yan, or was that supposed to be Hanoki? (the Ai general that participated in the battle of Kanyou during the state of Ai arc)

Then in the different article, it said that Kanki got defeated and killed by Li Mu (Riboku) in the battle of Handan (Kantan).
yep who defected to yan is hanoki cuz he is tied with later arc we didn't reach yet.
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about kanki death it's not confirmed
in shiji what hara mainly take from he just not mentioned after his defeat but it didn't say he got killed either.

so its up to hara .

but there's another source that said kanki died at kantan siege which is 3-4 years from now.



about the chapter 739

it was desperate since they have 10k so kanki leaving gian is just delaying the inevitable.
and this what i thought after 10k remaining
that kanmi will switch his goal to damage rbk as he could cuz they already defeated
he will just make it more painful to rbk
until now rbk didn't lose mich not even a general, even rbk regained gian back.
while kanki has empty hands now

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when rbk was about to seige gian last chapter they said kanki army separated groups didn't move to gian

i think kanki told some of them to go fo hika when rbk siege gian.
so he will regroup with them at hika maybe those 10k can become now 20-25k at best .


Kanki is not dying now, that’s for sure, but his total defeat and the end of his time as one of the Qin 6 seems near.
nah its better if he died now as 6gg
for both kanki or rbk
keeping kanki alive while taking from him 6gg seems meh to his character.
Ok final nail in the coffin, Kanki recalling good memories is such a bad omen. I'm having Bayou flashbacks
:josad:
sadly
kingdom lost some when ryufui role ended and now kanki
definitely kingdom will not be like before after his death.
knowing everything about Ousen or RouMou's situation and still coming to Gian. This is definitely weird. Kanki won't be making suicidal move. Bandits cares for there lifes more than anything else. Lol

well i think he didn't have a choice
rbk left him nothing .

it will be harder if he went from there to qin as you saw hsu and Mouten couldn't continue escaping .
 
100,000 is a big number, this should also include the families of a big portion of Riboku’s army.
If Ousen applies pressure on Riboku his army will be torn apart between duty and family.
Another interesting point :

Kanki might be dividing Riboku's army. First Riboku definitely has left some portion in Sekirei (prevention from Ousen as well), than now he will definitely leave some here in Gian considering how Kanki is in the open, now Riboku has pointed out about Bihu (which might be Hika) and Riboku said to move towards Hika though Author has put a "but...." in narration.

Kanki now has 10k of his own while around 10to15k of HSU+GKK+Saki and seihe unit. So around 25k army should be good enough to guerilla warfare.

Now if Ousen somehow takes Roumou (while defeating SBS generals there) than it would be quite a setback for Riboku as well to deal with this situation.
 
i think riboku felt kanki was going to Hika, which means Riboku was actually incorrect in that moment, until he saw that human tree at the end. Kanki tried too hard to make riboku go there, which tells the latter that this is what kanki wants him to think. Riboku won't let zhao fall for it again and so he will go to where he believes kanki really is, rather than hika
Unless Kanki knew Riboku would think this and actually went to Hika :smart:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
nah its better if he died now as 6gg
for both kanki or rbk
keeping kanki alive while taking from him 6gg seems meh to his character.
There is a 0% chance that Kanki dies without formally facing Shin in war. Kanki was hardcore buildup as a future Shin opponent.

If you read historical spoilers, I believe I know the perfect place for this to happen…
 
There is a 0% chance that Kanki dies without formally facing Shin in war. Kanki was hardcore buildup as a future Shin opponent.

If you read historical spoilers, I believe I know the perfect place for this to happen…
The historical spoiler which many discuss is a myth and simply incorrect.
the fandom mistook Kanki for Hanoki due to their Chinese names. There is nothing at all that points to Kanki being in Yan, historically
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
The historical spoiler which many discuss is a myth and simply incorrect.
the fandom mistook Kanki for Hanoki due to their Chinese names. There is nothing at all that points to Kanki being in Yan, historically
Hara could and should deviate from this.

1. Hanoki was never set up to be a worthy opponent of a Qin 6 member which Shin will be at this time.

2. Prince Entan of Yan will be such a massively important villain in the series that he should have a worthy GG under him to face Shin. Not Hanoki or Ordo…lol
 
Hara could and should deviate from this.

1. Hanoki was never set up to be a worthy opponent of a Qin 6 member which Shin will be at this time.

2. Prince Entan of Yan will be such a massively important villain in the series that he should have a worthy GG under him to face Shin. Not Hanoki or Ordo…lol
oh i'd love it to happen, it just won't.

I fully expect Yan to have some elite GG's when the time comes. We already know they have at least one more GG than Ordo and we know nothing more about them.

IIRC Hanoki isn't meant to be a powerful general, he's just someone who plays a role
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
oh i'd love it to happen, it just won't.

I fully expect Yan to have some elite GG's when the time comes. We already know they have at least one more GG than Ordo and we know nothing more about them.

IIRC Hanoki isn't meant to be a powerful general, he's just someone who plays a role
Who though? Yan’s strongest commander is Ordo, who certainly isn’t weak but also is not on the level of commanders who Shin has/will go up against like Houken, Shibashou, and even Riboku. Anyone shy of a Qin 6 level commander in Yan will be unfitting for Prince Entan to have as his chief commander.
 
However, in the west the Qin were all killed so they must have gone east which is surprising because it's in the opposite direction of the Qin HQ. Riboku thinks that he went to the castle far in the east called Biha.
"Biha's tragedy will be engraved in history."
This probably doesn't sound like Kanki's character to bluff. But is he actually running to west while threatening Riboku to go to opposite direction?
 
There is a 0% chance that Kanki dies without formally facing Shin in war. Kanki was hardcore buildup as a future Shin opponent.

If you read historical spoilers, I believe I know the perfect place for this to happen…
as @Great General Kanki said it's mistake by the fans .

hara only follow the true history , one shource say kanki is defeted at hika/gian then he no mention later same thing to many generals like kyoukai ytw etc where they mentioned a few times then nothing about them
the second source say kanki survive this defeat and later get killed by rbk at kantan siege .
hara only change and creat something when in history there's no thing about it like ouki death etc .

Also many fans/ readers cuz of thier backgroud with other shonen mc and how shin looks similar to them
they think that shin has to kill/ stop him from killing / torturing cuz he is the main character and this common in shonen .
Nah Hara is completely different here , just how many times shin screamed that he want to stop kanki or kill him
even if he physically can and he could have don it cuz he is naive , but it doesn't work here
neither shin's firends nor hara would allow it , cuz it gonna ruin the work .

also this not releated to shin rank either killing your commander cuz you don't like his method is a completely bullshit .

also nothing can make kanki move to another country he alrady done worse and he still alive
losing now or geting defeated cuz shk throw him at trap it he will not be blamed at all .
 
Who though? Yan’s strongest commander is Ordo, who certainly isn’t weak but also is not on the level of commanders who Shin has/will go up against like Houken, Shibashou, and even Riboku. Anyone shy of a Qin 6 level commander in Yan will be unfitting for Prince Entan to have as his chief commander.
We already know that Yan "is the state with the most mystery" and that they at least had 1 GG who rivalled Ordo for the position of CiC of the coalition war.

But more importantly, the CW was what, 5-7 years ago? And how many years are we away from Qin/Yan wars? That leaves so much time for characters to rise through the ranks. The Yan army has never really been explored, other than Ordo.

A few years ago, we thought all Zhao had was Riboku. Then popped out Keisha, Gyou'un, Kouen, Shibashou and now Choukotsu etc. Wei only had GHM, then Hara pulled 6 Fire Dragons out from his backside and has also name dropped "God Bow" Bashuri".

When the time comes, we will see that Yan has its capable force. We already know how they're incorporating all the tribes into their state so just think of the potential for Yotanwa's greatest enemy, or Moubu's mountain-tribe equivalent etc.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
as @Great General Kanki said it's mistake by the fans .

hara only follow the true history , one shource say kanki is defeted at hika/gian then he no mention later same thing to many generals like kyoukai ytw etc where they mentioned a few times then nothing about them
the second source say kanki survive this defeat and later get killed by rbk at kantan siege .
hara only change and creat something when in history there's no thing about it like ouki death etc .

Also many fans/ readers cuz of thier backgroud with other shonen mc and how shin looks similar to them
they think that shin has to kill/ stop him from killing / torturing cuz he is the main character and this common in shonen .
Nah Hara is completely different here , just how many times shin screamed that he want to stop kanki or kill him
even if he physically can and he could have don it cuz he is naive , but it doesn't work here
neither shin's firends nor hara would allow it , cuz it gonna ruin the work .

also this not releated to shin rank either killing your commander cuz you don't like his method is a completely bullshit .

also nothing can make kanki move to another country he alrady done worse and he still alive
losing now or geting defeated cuz shk throw him at trap it he will not be blamed at all .
I know it’s a mistake, I’m saying Hara will probably do it anyway as Kanki just seems perfectly written to be a future Shin enemy, and Yan is the perfect place for him to wind up as Yan has no commanders on Kanki’s level and is unlikely to have any commanders reach that level.
 
Hara could and should deviate from this.

1. Hanoki was never set up to be a worthy opponent of a Qin 6 member which Shin will be at this time.

2. Prince Entan of Yan will be such a massively important villain in the series that he should have a worthy GG under him to face Shin. Not Hanoki or Ordo…lol
What will happen with Prince Entan of Yan?
 
yep who defected to yan is hanoki cuz he is tied with later arc we didn't reach yet.
...
about kanki death it's not confirmed
in shiji what hara mainly take from he just not mentioned after his defeat but it didn't say he got killed either.

so its up to hara .

but there's another source that said kanki died at kantan siege which is 3-4 years from now.
Yeah I figured as much. Hanoki will probably be important later on. But at the same time, I do want Kanki to be one of Shin's final opponents if he ever retreated to Yan like @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung said.
 
Another tragedy again?? Qin can never subjugate Zhao’s population if they defeat Zhao by killing another 100000 people. How has Kanki escaped. How did RBK even allow it
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400000+ Zhao deaths by previous Qin 6. 200000+ by current Qin 6 is way too much. How will people of Zhao accept Qin ever if this tragedy happens….
 
We already know that Yan "is the state with the most mystery" and that they at least had 1 GG who rivalled Ordo for the position of CiC of the coalition war.

But more importantly, the CW was what, 5-7 years ago? And how many years are we away from Qin/Yan wars? That leaves so much time for characters to rise through the ranks. The Yan army has never really been explored, other than Ordo.

A few years ago, we thought all Zhao had was Riboku. Then popped out Keisha, Gyou'un, Kouen, Shibashou and now Choukotsu etc. Wei only had GHM, then Hara pulled 6 Fire Dragons out from his backside and has also name dropped "God Bow" Bashuri".

When the time comes, we will see that Yan has its capable force. We already know how they're incorporating all the tribes into their state so just think of the potential for Yotanwa's greatest enemy, or Moubu's mountain-tribe equivalent etc.
I think you meant to say Kochou instead of Kouen lmao.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
What will happen with Prince Entan of Yan?
Prince Entan of Yan will be the main catalyst of Ei Sei going insane. Entan was a childhood friend of Ei Sei, they spent time in Zhao as prisoners together.

Historically Entan masterminds an assassination attempt on Ei Sei’s life that comes extremely close to succeeding. This is after Qin conquers Zhao and is poised to conquer the other states minus Chu.

The effect this will have on Ei Sei’s psyche will be where his fits of paranoia and distrust begin. “If I can’t trust Entan (my best friend), I can’t trust anyone.” Additionally this will likely be where Ei Sei’s delusions and spiritual visions become much worse. Entan will very much be the main cause for Ei Sei’s insanity and descent into villainy.
 
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