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Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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I don't see either RBK or Ou Sen trusting anyone but themselves to deal with strategy of their level. Too much at stake.
I'm fairly certain Riboku has no problem leaving Ousen to a GH3 level general especially since Ousen has 0 intel (and prep) on him. As for Ousen then I agree he wouldnt trust Riboku to YTW, but I think Riboku can easily trick him into such scenario by manipulating army numbers. Ousen will assume Riboku is leading the larger army as simple as that.

Hara wouldnt let this opportunity go I believe, especially with how he hyped up SBS for 250 chapters
Also, Riboku is yet to fight mountain people of YTW caliber, would be a dope battle
 
Dead I’m predicting per participating army:
  • Ou Sen Army - none, MAYBE Shi Ryou
  • Gyoku Hou - none
  • YTW Army - Shunmen + Tajifu
  • Hi Shin Unit - POSSIBLY En, Den Ei and Kei
  • RBK Army - Ba Nan Ji, and MAYBE Kaine
  • SBS Army - Gaku Shou
Shunsuiju better bite the dust
He is the only RBK vassal I feel confident in being safe.

I'm fairly certain Riboku has no problem leaving Ousen to a GH3 level general especially since Ousen has 0 intel (and prep) on him. As for Ousen then I agree he wouldnt trust Riboku to YTW, but I think Riboku can easily trick him into such scenario by manipulating army numbers. Ousen will assume Riboku is leading the larger army as simple as that.

Hara wouldnt let this opportunity go I believe, especially with how he hyped up SBS for 250 chapters
Also, Riboku is yet to fight mountain people of YTW caliber, would be a dope battle
They have an information advantage, that’s clear.

Ri Boku nevertheless tasted defeat the last time he and Ou Sen engaged in a battle of wits. While he is confident in his own abilities, I don’t RBK would take the risk of leaving it to SBS to keep up strategically.

YTW vs SBS is an exciting match up. I’d love to see it. I don’t think we will for numerous reasons, but one of them is that I think Hara is setting up SBS to feast on her warriors to build up his hype.
 
Arabic chapter HQ released https://gmanga.me/mangas/348/kingdom/772/388064

Chapter summary from TKC :

Riboku
Bananji reports that the various armies have begun moving out. Riboku says he’ll also head out soon, but notices something’s up with Bananji. Kaine is looking for Riboku and heads back to the strategy room. She wants to talk with Riboku about what happened when they were surrounded by the Kanki army. She’s worried about talking about it right before they head out, but she thinks they won’t be able to talk after they head for the battle. Bananji says this is the real battle compared to last time. Riboku agrees saying that the Qin has a bigger army and 2 great generals, but he’s confident they’ll win and strike a blow against Qin hard enough they won’t be able to raise a large army again. “The unification of China is a dream within a dream.” Bananji then asks if Riboku won’t soon take a bride. Riboku is surprised at the question, but Bananji explains that he’s been running Riboku’s castle while he’s been preparing for this war and he’s received a lot of marriage requests. Riboku thinks this is no time for personal pursuits, but Bananji tells him that as prime minister, one of the 3 great heavens, and lord of the second largest city in Zhao, Riboku needs to consider an heir for the sake of the country. If Riboku would establish a lineage, his retainer and their families would feel relieved. All of the marriage proposals have come from noble families and princess from other kingdoms. Bananji says they can talk more about it after the war, and he can pick two or three if he wants. Kaine thinks that Riboku’s partner should be from a noble family and that she must have just misunderstood what Riboku was saying when he rescued her.

She calls herself an idiot, but Riboku tells Bananji that he’s going to give up everything and return to Ganmon when the war ends. Bananji says he’ll follow Riboku to Ganmon, as well, but asks who he’ll take as a partner. “The person I know well, who’s shared joy and sadness with me, who relaxes me when they’re by my side. Although I don’t know her feelings.” Bananji laughs that they have a master/disciple relationship, but she’s the best woman in Ganmon after his own wife. “She’s the only one who can support the real you.” Riboku says his greatest fortune in being stationed at Ganmon was meeting her. Bananji replies “You should tell that directly to Kaine as soon as possible,” but Riboku says after the battle of Hango.

Ousen
The recon units report that the Zhao armies are on the move. Sou’ou comments that the Zhao aren’t surprised by the attack on Hango, but actually seem rather prepared. Denrimi thinks the Gi’an is probably even further defended than Hango. They comment that it’s going to be a wide-ranging battle which they were hoping for, but Akou warns them not to lose focus and underestimate Riboku. Ousen’s generals are irritated the Ousen is the number 3 great general, so they’ll bring him to number 1 with this victory.

Youtanwa
Youtanwa’s army is closing in on Hango. Danto is talking about glory on the battlefield and winning Youtanwa while Kitari is slightly bickering with the people from Roumou who have joined.

Ouhon
Akakin talks about Ouhon’s kid and asks Ouhon if he’s scared of dying. He says if you’re scared, your legs will go out and you’ll lose concentration. But Kanjou says it’s good for Ouhon to be scared of dying because he’s always flying headfirst into life or death situations. Ouhon says to stop worrying. He isn’t scared of dying, but he also doesn’t plan to jump headfirst into danger. The Gyoku Hou is at its strongest, and they’ll take Riboku’s head.

Shin
Ten is explaining to the infantry that the battle lines are going to get spread out and they may get separated from the cavalry. But she’s keeping a watch on that, so they can fight like normal. Shin tells the Hi Hyou to completely follow orders cause they’re still a little ragtag from being newly reformed. Scouts report they’re closing in on the enemy, but Shin leave to talk to Kyoukai first. He says this year’s invasion is being watched more closely than last year’s to see if Qin or Zhao is stronger. “Let’s show them all, Kyoukai! The Hi Shin Unit is the strongest! Ri Shin and Kyoukai are strong!” They spot the enemy in the distance.

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Arabic chapter HQ released https://gmanga.me/mangas/348/kingdom/772/388064

Chapter summary from TKC :

Riboku
Bananji reports that the various armies have begun moving out. Riboku says he’ll also head out soon, but notices something’s up with Bananji. Kaine is looking for Riboku and heads back to the strategy room. She wants to talk with Riboku about what happened when they were surrounded by the Kanki army. She’s worried about talking about it right before they head out, but she thinks they won’t be able to talk after they head for the battle. Bananji says this is the real battle compared to last time. Riboku agrees saying that the Qin has a bigger army and 2 great generals, but he’s confident they’ll win and strike a blow against Qin hard enough they won’t be able to raise a large army again. “The unification of China is a dream within a dream.” Bananji then asks if Riboku won’t soon take a bride. Riboku is surprised at the question, but Bananji explains that he’s been running Riboku’s castle while he’s been preparing for this war and he’s received a lot of marriage requests. Riboku thinks this is no time for personal pursuits, but Bananji tells him that as prime minister, one of the 3 great heavens, and lord of the second largest city in Zhao, Riboku needs to consider an heir for the sake of the country. If Riboku would establish a lineage, his retainer and their families would feel relieved. All of the marriage proposals have come from noble families and princess from other kingdoms. Bananji says they can talk more about it after the war, and he can pick two or three if he wants. Kaine thinks that Riboku’s partner should be from a noble family and that she must have just misunderstood what Riboku was saying when he rescued her.

She calls herself an idiot, but Riboku tells Bananji that he’s going to give up everything and return to Ganmon when the war ends. Bananji says he’ll follow Riboku to Ganmon, as well, but asks who he’ll take as a partner. “The person I know well, who’s shared joy and sadness with me, who relaxes me when they’re by my side. Although I don’t know her feelings.” Bananji laughs that they have a master/disciple relationship, but she’s the best woman in Ganmon after his own wife. “She’s the only one who can support the real you.” Riboku says his greatest fortune in being stationed at Ganmon was meeting her. Bananji replies “You should tell that directly to Kaine as soon as possible,” but Riboku says after the battle of Hango.

Ousen
The recon units report that the Zhao armies are on the move. Sou’ou comments that the Zhao aren’t surprised by the attack on Hango, but actually seem rather prepared. Denrimi thinks the Gi’an is probably even further defended than Hango. They comment that it’s going to be a wide-ranging battle which they were hoping for, but Akou warns them not to lose focus and underestimate Riboku. Ousen’s generals are irritated the Ousen is the number 3 great general, so they’ll bring him to number 1 with this victory.

Youtanwa
Youtanwa’s army is closing in on Hango. Danto is talking about glory on the battlefield and winning Youtanwa while Kitari is slightly bickering with the people from Roumou who have joined.

Ouhon
Akakin talks about Ouhon’s kid and asks Ouhon if he’s scared of dying. He says if you’re scared, your legs will go out and you’ll lose concentration. But Kanjou says it’s good for Ouhon to be scared of dying because he’s always flying headfirst into life or death situations. Ouhon says to stop worrying. He isn’t scared of dying, but he also doesn’t plan to jump headfirst into danger. The Gyoku Hou is at its strongest, and they’ll take Riboku’s head.

Shin
Ten is explaining to the infantry that the battle lines are going to get spread out and they may get separated from the cavalry. But she’s keeping a watch on that, so they can fight like normal. Shin tells the Hi Hyou to completely follow orders cause they’re still a little ragtag from being newly reformed. Scouts report they’re closing in on the enemy, but Shin leave to talk to Kyoukai first. He says this year’s invasion is being watched more closely than last year’s to see if Qin or Zhao is stronger. “Let’s show them all, Kyoukai! The Hi Shin Unit is the strongest! Ri Shin and Kyoukai are strong!” They spot the enemy in the distance.

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Riboku and Bananji conversation makes me uncomfortable, its like a bad omen. I have a feeling Riboku's Ganmon return and wedding arent gonna happen.
 
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Riboku and Bananji conversation makes me uncomfortable, its like a bad omen. I have a feeling Riboku's Ganmon return and wedding arent gonna happen.
Yup. Same goes in TKC as well. Even though a few chapters back Hara wrote in the narration that Qin going to suffer a high of casualties in this war so everyone thought it's going to be a W for Riboku but after this chapter, now it felt like Qin might win/lose but it's both side going suffer heavily. Those Riboku - Bananji dialogues and than in the end that commitment of Shin and KK.
 
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Ri Boku is safe this arc.

Kaine might not be.

If she is safe, then there will be a fake out who isn’t.

Someone thematically consistent will the tragedy of love.

To me, that narrows it down to six possible candidates.

If RBK and Kaine are the couple that could be, then Sou’Ou and Shi Ryou are the couple that already is. Either one could fail to survive. Hell, they could die together.

Next are Heki and Kitari. Heki’s life is still danger and Kitari could lose her own trying to save it. This one could be horrible to see.

Next up are two long shots - Ko and Bi Hei.

It’s still early for Ko and Rei, but that wouldn’t make his loss any less tragic.

Bi Hei just got married, how sad would it to be see him die now? The horrors of war never stay away for long. Tragedy will arise.
 
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Yup. Same goes in TKC as well. Even though a few chapters back Hara wrote in the narration that Qin going to suffer a high of casualties in this war so everyone thought it's going to be a W for Riboku but after this chapter, now it felt like Qin might win/lose but it's both side going suffer heavily. Those Riboku - Bananji dialogues and than in the end that commitment of Shin and KK.
Both can be true though, Riboku winning here and later dying before his return to Ganmon. Hara isnt giving the GOAT an L in his final fight. Perhaps we are getting a "red wedding" like Game of Thrones after this war!
 
Some predictions, in no particular order of likelihood or chronology
  • Ou Sen will choose to use the Gyoku Hou instead of the Hi Shin Unit - this will be noted by Kan Jou and DRM specifically
  • Ri Boku will face Ou Sen with a bigger army
  • Shun Sui Ju will served with Seika for strategic cohesion (& obvious narrative purpose)
  • Ou Hon slays Ba Nan Ji
  • A Kou slays En Kan (Gian general with 100K Army)
  • Fu Tei will die protecting Kaine
  • Shi Ba Shou will defeat Yo Tan Wa's army and kill 2 of her lieutenants
  • Ba Jio will fight Ji Aga and leave a winning situation to help YTW retreat
  • Kyou Kai slays Gaku Shou in her first outing as general
  • Shin briefly duels SBS at the end of the battle and comes up short
 
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