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Random question of the day: Can we truly trust charities created for humanitarian aid by large scale corporations and/or our governments to keep their word, and do we truly know where all of that billions in donations money gets distributed to?
When someone donates to you double or triple digits, it's most likely a gesture of friendship or goodwill.
When a conglomerate donates to you at least seven digits worth, they're pretty clear in sending you a message that you owe them a favour (or two, or forever).
Hope your auto merge works but WTF?
At 0:30 in the vid.
Even the Truckers Convoy never made it this far. They never broke into the House of Commons unlike these fellows.
When someone donates to you double or triple digits, it's most likely a gesture of friendship or goodwill.
When a conglomerate donates to you at least seven digits worth, they're pretty clear in sending you a message that you owe them a favour (or two, or forever).
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Hope your auto merge works but WTF?
Even the Truckers Convoy never made it this far. They never broke into the House of Commons unlike these fellows.
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In international relations there's two points of view about this issue - actually two theories - Realists and neorealism see international relations as a zero sum game where advantages will be the primary motivator for actions of both international groups and states. Kissinger is one politician that acted in most old realistic views of how to allow the US to prosper. Liberalism and neoliberalism is more about cooperation and codependency. The European Union is a example of what the neoliberalism hope to achieve globally.
Based on the first view, we can trust those organizations to act mostly according to their tenets until it is not advantageous or until people stop looking. As soon as they can act without supervision they will abuse their power, steal the money and do what they can. This can be seen in some NGO's in Amazonian florest that basically steal and allow atrocities against the natives because they are free to do so by the actual brazilian government (in there a true genocide is happenning and the numbers of natives diminish year by year).
Based on the second view, in order to ensure those organizations to work smoothly, we need to create a environment where everyone acts in good faith, which creates a lose-lose situation if they don't follow their charters. Basically giving enough benefits to governments and those organizations so that they will be unwilling to do bullshit.
Overall, the answer for now is no- in my opinion.
Based on the first view, we can trust those organizations to act mostly according to their tenets until it is not advantageous or until people stop looking. As soon as they can act without supervision they will abuse their power, steal the money and do what they can. This can be seen in some NGO's in Amazonian florest that basically steal and allow atrocities against the natives because they are free to do so by the actual brazilian government (in there a true genocide is happenning and the numbers of natives diminish year by year).
Based on the second view, in order to ensure those organizations to work smoothly, we need to create a environment where everyone acts in good faith, which creates a lose-lose situation if they don't follow their charters. Basically giving enough benefits to governments and those organizations so that they will be unwilling to do bullshit.
Overall, the answer for now is no- in my opinion.
Still no, the example is not supposed to be a 1 for 1 comparison to the hamas israel conflict but to make you understand that because it preferable to listen to the victims rather than the oppressors in any conflict. So stop the fallacy please.
There are no such people here. You are fighting windmills.
Again, no one is doing that here and in reality very few people are doing that.
No, it just need to be accountable for what it does.
Damn... try to act less toxic, maybe you might come across more understandable.
Apparently yes since I will be directly impacted by the usage of AI, and I'm not the only one.
And this is why you will not (at least not now) understand why we call you a far right elitist. This is the kind of inhuman sentence that pro capitalist conservatist who don't know a thing about the struggles of finding a new job tends to say.
And here it is... pure dumb social darwinism... Those who can't adapt are therefore "dumb".... and you don't understand why people think you are elitist, inhuman and completely ignorant ?
No wonder...
To people yes, not the opposite.
Wrong.
Most artist are competent. In fact more than any tech AI so called "artist" and yet, they don't want to adapt (for good reasons). Meaning that you are wrong here.
Not just some people, the entire artistic industry mate.
Those people will be using and teaching about a tool build on theft...
Once we will remove their data base (that is the propriety of the owners of the datas) there will be nothing left.
If you want to use such a tool, first understand how reality work and how to make art, then create art, then train your AI on YOUR art, and then maybe you will be able to create things efficiently and ethically.
If you only take the product as it is, you will create nothing but a prompt. A prompt that anyone can copy to recreate the same exact thing.
There won't be a "second group". Trust me that artist won't let people like you steel their work and they will all unite to take those database taht AI tools are trained on, DOWN.
In that case, the point is to attack your vision of politic so its a perfectly legitimate point to make. Your vision is a libertarian one, a inhuman one and a pro capitalistic one on top of being elitist, so plainly far right. I'm just calling you out here for what you stand for.
You can try mate. I'm proud of my values. You are not.
See.. once again.. inhumanity.
Ethic in progress is bullshit ? Damn... I'm glad you are not in the gov right now. You are clearly dangerous mate.
Actually no. This is a fallacy to think that society will eventually lead toward more progress. In reality, it can retrograde.
Change is inevitable. Progress is not.
Yes, I fully know and believe that. But looking at you and how you can be inhuman, I also know that there are some iffy people out there. So we must be careful and stay ethical.
I'm just reflecting what you are telling me mate. You are saying inhuman BS therefore I call you out on this.
Actually AI will touch every strat of the society. No just people with higher education.
wow...
Pure elitist and ignorant capitalist mindset...
People like you are precisely why society is failing everyone right now.
Forcing million of people to adapt or die and think that this will create a better society IS the desillusion. What it will create is a global revolution and you will be in the front line facing those who you deemed "incapable of adptating" and "waste of space"
Have fun surviving that.
OR.... make a revolution.
Which is about to happen if there is no regulation and a profusion of AI usage in different industries.
Oh ... but I thought about it mate. That's why I say... be careful of what you say about people not adapting being "waste of space" because those people won't forget.
There are no such people here. You are fighting windmills.
Again, no one is doing that here and in reality very few people are doing that.
No, it just need to be accountable for what it does.
Damn... try to act less toxic, maybe you might come across more understandable.
Apparently yes since I will be directly impacted by the usage of AI, and I'm not the only one.
And this is why you will not (at least not now) understand why we call you a far right elitist. This is the kind of inhuman sentence that pro capitalist conservatist who don't know a thing about the struggles of finding a new job tends to say.
And here it is... pure dumb social darwinism... Those who can't adapt are therefore "dumb".... and you don't understand why people think you are elitist, inhuman and completely ignorant ?
No wonder...
To people yes, not the opposite.
Wrong.
Most artist are competent. In fact more than any tech AI so called "artist" and yet, they don't want to adapt (for good reasons). Meaning that you are wrong here.
Not just some people, the entire artistic industry mate.
Those people will be using and teaching about a tool build on theft...
Once we will remove their data base (that is the propriety of the owners of the datas) there will be nothing left.
If you want to use such a tool, first understand how reality work and how to make art, then create art, then train your AI on YOUR art, and then maybe you will be able to create things efficiently and ethically.
If you only take the product as it is, you will create nothing but a prompt. A prompt that anyone can copy to recreate the same exact thing.
There won't be a "second group". Trust me that artist won't let people like you steel their work and they will all unite to take those database taht AI tools are trained on, DOWN.
In that case, the point is to attack your vision of politic so its a perfectly legitimate point to make. Your vision is a libertarian one, a inhuman one and a pro capitalistic one on top of being elitist, so plainly far right. I'm just calling you out here for what you stand for.
You can try mate. I'm proud of my values. You are not.
See.. once again.. inhumanity.
Ethic in progress is bullshit ? Damn... I'm glad you are not in the gov right now. You are clearly dangerous mate.
Actually no. This is a fallacy to think that society will eventually lead toward more progress. In reality, it can retrograde.
Change is inevitable. Progress is not.
Yes, I fully know and believe that. But looking at you and how you can be inhuman, I also know that there are some iffy people out there. So we must be careful and stay ethical.
I'm just reflecting what you are telling me mate. You are saying inhuman BS therefore I call you out on this.
Actually AI will touch every strat of the society. No just people with higher education.
wow...
Pure elitist and ignorant capitalist mindset...
People like you are precisely why society is failing everyone right now.
Forcing million of people to adapt or die and think that this will create a better society IS the desillusion. What it will create is a global revolution and you will be in the front line facing those who you deemed "incapable of adptating" and "waste of space"
Have fun surviving that.
OR.... make a revolution.
Which is about to happen if there is no regulation and a profusion of AI usage in different industries.
Oh ... but I thought about it mate. That's why I say... be careful of what you say about people not adapting being "waste of space" because those people won't forget.
If you are a terrorist apologizer, yes.
You are one.
The ones that cause the suffering need to be accountable, the killing of innocent families is not accountability.
Yeah, yeah. The opinion of a loser that is know as a waste of space incapable of seeing beyond his own ass is so important.
If they are competent, they will find work. Simple like that. If they are unable to appeal with their art, their art is shit.
I doubt that you worked in as many jobs as I did. Because I literally worked my ass of to get what I have. People that grew with me did the same. You are a incredible privileged person complaining online because of gov aid. Start working before calling people out.
Society as a whole.
Ok, let me correct myself: some people and a bunch of abominations.
Better?
And if some people are stupid enough to be unable to do so, they need to search for other jobs.
Doubtful. Unlike you, I already saw a industrial revolution and the end result is that those old professions faded out and the new ones took their place. People adapted.
Wrong. I see your vision as stupid and complete lacking in basic knowledge of reality. It was nothing to do with the argument itself. Again, attack the argument itself and not the person. I don't expect much from you but following basic directions should be possible.
The argument is bullshit because it lacks basic awareness. To claim that a society does not have ethics is the same as ignoring reality itsef. This is just some bullshit that leftists think are profound but in the end is worthless shit. Like most of the things you say.
Apparently not since you want to put humans in a cage and regulate everything because of your stupid ideas that aren't rooted in anything besides fear of the unknow. Humanity don't need those pathetics beings like you.
Yeah, yeah. Youy aren't reflecting on anything. You just dismiss anything that don't fit your point of view and try to get the high ground. Unfortunatelly, you fail to even understand a basic example.
Yeah. I think they should be smarter than you.
The things that are failing society are mostly woke bullshit, so no. BTW, preaching is not a argument.
This is stupid alarmist. This happened before and will happen again. Lazy fuck ups that only know how to complain in twitter will not be revolutionaries.
Nope. Alarmist tactic of a lazy fuck that is not willing to put the work to improve.
Yeah. Threats of stupid fuck ups are not scary.
You are one.
The ones that cause the suffering need to be accountable, the killing of innocent families is not accountability.
Yeah, yeah. The opinion of a loser that is know as a waste of space incapable of seeing beyond his own ass is so important.
If they are competent, they will find work. Simple like that. If they are unable to appeal with their art, their art is shit.
I doubt that you worked in as many jobs as I did. Because I literally worked my ass of to get what I have. People that grew with me did the same. You are a incredible privileged person complaining online because of gov aid. Start working before calling people out.
Society as a whole.
Ok, let me correct myself: some people and a bunch of abominations.
Better?
And if some people are stupid enough to be unable to do so, they need to search for other jobs.
Doubtful. Unlike you, I already saw a industrial revolution and the end result is that those old professions faded out and the new ones took their place. People adapted.
Wrong. I see your vision as stupid and complete lacking in basic knowledge of reality. It was nothing to do with the argument itself. Again, attack the argument itself and not the person. I don't expect much from you but following basic directions should be possible.
The argument is bullshit because it lacks basic awareness. To claim that a society does not have ethics is the same as ignoring reality itsef. This is just some bullshit that leftists think are profound but in the end is worthless shit. Like most of the things you say.
Apparently not since you want to put humans in a cage and regulate everything because of your stupid ideas that aren't rooted in anything besides fear of the unknow. Humanity don't need those pathetics beings like you.
Yeah, yeah. Youy aren't reflecting on anything. You just dismiss anything that don't fit your point of view and try to get the high ground. Unfortunatelly, you fail to even understand a basic example.
Yeah. I think they should be smarter than you.
The things that are failing society are mostly woke bullshit, so no. BTW, preaching is not a argument.
This is stupid alarmist. This happened before and will happen again. Lazy fuck ups that only know how to complain in twitter will not be revolutionaries.
Nope. Alarmist tactic of a lazy fuck that is not willing to put the work to improve.
Yeah. Threats of stupid fuck ups are not scary.
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If you're gonna drop zingers left and right, at least have the decency to have proper syntax. This insult is the perfect encapsulation of your lack of analytical skills and very surface level interpretation of world events and geopolitics. You play fast and lose with the definition of "genocide" or "terrorism" in order to fit your narrative. You interpret the actions of hamas as terrorist in nature (which I agree with), but you don't apply the same standard for Israel.
I can tell you're extremely young and susceptible to propaganda, truly pathetic.
I can tell you're extremely young and susceptible to propaganda, truly pathetic.
