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People like me it seems... You know, telling people that they are legitimate, that they are worthy and perfect as they are, supporting those people...

It MUST be a way to "lead people down on a cycle of self-destruction"... right ?

Van must have a lot of experience with people in difficulties.

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Really depends.... the push for self acceptance can be both empowering and destructive.
 
Really depends.... the push for self acceptance can be both empowering and destructive.
Oh ?
Destructive ... In what way ?

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You aren't on the right side of history bub. Your "facts" "data" etc will get debunked and are.
Your science is wrong. But keep clinging onto your shallow data, it's all you have .
"your science is wrong".. I'm sure this sentence will age like fine wine.
 
In the way Van described. You and him represent the 2 extremes of this movement.

In the same manner self professed disability advocates can be ableist.
Can you give me actual example and data showing that being positive with people in difficulty can be destructive please ?


In the same manner self professed disability advocates can be ableist.
What are you talking about ?
 
What are you talking about ?
About disability advocates being shitty ableists. As a person with a disability you're better off staying away from these types because they only want to pull you down and keep you disabled or worse, make you more disabled than you already are. You'll find these types anywhere where money is involved, or religion but also outside of these 2 areas.
Always remember that people who claim to be willing to help others don't always have your best interest in mind. Some of these guys are like legit cult leaders.
I am speaking from experience and don't want to look up any statistics or w/e. Do that for yourself.
 
What do you mean by "disability advocate" ??

What does this have to do with leftist explaining that we must be positive with people in difficulty ?
Because what I described is the toxic destructive side of forcing positivity and fake acceptance.
Also you of all people shouldn't have a problem with fast topic changes, no?
 
Because what I described is the toxic destructive side of forcing positivity and fake acceptance.
Also you of all people shouldn't have a problem with fast topic changes, no?
Oh don't worry, I don't mind topic change at all, I just wanted to know if it has something to do with what we were talking about.

I've never heard or seen about people forcing positivity or fake acceptance. Absolutely NOWHERE in leftism do we force positivity or promote fake acceptance.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Is it better to be miserable with the truth or happy with lies? If someone has an issue, you can't lie to them and switch up definitions to make them feel better. They would constantly get rejected by society inciting more anger and depression over time. Nothing good comes from convincing someone to root their problems in lies.
 
Is it better to be miserable with the truth or happy with lies? If someone has an issue, you can't lie to them and switch up definitions to make them feel better. They would constantly get rejected by society inciting more anger and depression over time. Nothing good comes from convincing someone to root their problems in lies.
It's vital to accept people for who they are eg you're not going to make someone who is obese lose weight by bullying them for their weight. Pretending it's for their own good is disingenuous as it evidently affects mental health negatively, prompting them to overeat more and gain even more weight to cope with depression.
Obese people should lose weight because they want to improve their health for their own sake. But to reach a state where they value their own health they must first feel accepted and valued as human beings.
It's a tricky fine line to walk for the people in their lives. We can't force something on others even if we think it's for their own good and ultimately benefits them.

The same can be applied to all other issues
 
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