Controversial General Political Discussion

[Ravagerblade]

People like you are the Scum of the Earth. Crying and whining, making a Mountain of a molehill. Your change is because of soft ass people can't handle reality and what it throws at them.
You disgust me thinking Fat people are ok with how they are and its somehow Healthy. Get the fuck over yourself and those lies.

Ableist? That shit is such a non-issue that you are just crying about nothing. Is it perfect, no but there are and should be standards for people with disabilities and how things help them.

Your other Points are just You and your side coming up with anything else to seem as if you have a point, but you don't at all. It's all groundless bullshit.

 

[Logiko]

People like you are the Scum of the Earth.

Come on, do better, I'm sure you can be even meaner that that !

You disgust me thinking Fat people are ok with how they are and its somehow Healthy.

Somehow, you completely missread what I said and invented your own narrative and lies. I never said that Obesity was healthy. I said that we must accept people as they are and that it was not our place to tell them how to live their lives.

Again, because I'm not sure it will stick in your brain : Don't you dare thinking that you are better suited than a fat person to know how they should live their live:
- You don't know their struggle
- You don't know their situation
- You don't know them

So don't even try to think that you have any glimps of relevancy in the matter.

If you can't accept people as they are and support them in their struggle, stay out of the lives of people in difficulty.

Ableist? That shit is such a non-issue that you are just crying about nothing.

You, yersterday:

The mental illness is standard for these folks.

You in 2021

Shit takes are getting even more shittier.
Are you autistic or just super special mentally?

And
You, to me, in 2022

You are just a representation of society mate, so yes, society is Ableist.

Your other Points are just You and your side coming up with anything else to seem as if you have a point, but you don't at all. It's all groundless bullshit.

Yes, don't look at the data, facts and research, you might understand just how wrong you are.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Leading people down on a cycle of self destruction

Who is doing that?

 

[Logiko]

Who is doing that?

People like me it seems... You know, telling people that they are legitimate, that they are worthy and perfect as they are, supporting those people...

It MUST be a way to "lead people down on a cycle of self-destruction"... right ?

Van must have a lot of experience with people in difficulties.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Come on, do better, I'm sure you can be even meaner that that !


Somehow, you completely missread what I said and invented your own narrative and lies. I never said that Obesity was healthy. I said that we must accept people as they are and that it was not our place to tell them how to live their lives.

Again, because I'm not sure it will stick in your brain : Don't you dare thinking that you are better suited than a fat person to know how they should live their live:
- You don't know their struggle
- You don't know their situation
- You don't know them

So don't even try to think that you have any glimps of relevancy in the matter.

If you can't accept people as they are and support them in their struggle, stay out of the lives of people in difficulty.


You, yersterday:

You in 2021

And
You, to me, in 2022

You are just a representation of society mate, so yes, society is Ableist.



Yes, don't look at the data, facts and research, you might understand just how wrong you are.

You don't understand a damn thing.

 

[Logiko]

You don't understand a damn thing.

For sure mate. I'm the one delivering scientific data, but I'm the one who don't understand a damn thing and you who spit hate and intolerance actually know it all !

 

[Zenos7]

Saying that Transwomen are men is an act of transphobia because its the promotion of the negation of the identity of trans people.

Not really

 

[Logiko]

Not really

Yes really.



Ask any trans person or any sociologist working on trans issue or any militant advocating for trans right.

Saying "trans women are men" is the same as saying "trans women's identity is not valid"

Its pure transphobia

 

[Ravagerblade]

For sure mate. I'm the one delivering scientific data, but I'm the one who don't understand a damn thing and you who spit hate and intolerance actually know it all !

Data that is biased and not factual. Continue taking askewed data from people pushing an agenda you dumb fuck.

 

[Logiko]

Data that is biased and not factual.

You are proven wrong, so now - for you - its science that is wrong...



You keep on digging mate...

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

People like me it seems... You know, telling people that they are legitimate, that they are worthy and perfect as they are, supporting those people...

It MUST be a way to "lead people down on a cycle of self-destruction"... right ?

Van must have a lot of experience with people in difficulties.

Really depends.... the push for self acceptance can be both empowering and destructive.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You are proven wrong, so now - for you - its science that is wrong...



You keep on digging mate...

You aren't on the right side of history bub. Your "facts" "data" etc will get debunked and are.
Your science is wrong. But keep clinging onto your shallow data, it's all you have .

 

[Logiko]

Really depends.... the push for self acceptance can be both empowering and destructive.

Oh ?
Destructive ... In what way ?

You aren't on the right side of history bub. Your "facts" "data" etc will get debunked and are.
Your science is wrong. But keep clinging onto your shallow data, it's all you have .

"your science is wrong".. I'm sure this sentence will age like fine wine.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Oh ?
Destructive ... In what way ?

In the way Van described. You and him represent the 2 extremes of this movement.

In the same manner self professed disability advocates can be ableist.

 

[Logiko]

In the way Van described. You and him represent the 2 extremes of this movement.

In the same manner self professed disability advocates can be ableist.

Can you give me actual example and data showing that being positive with people in difficulty can be destructive please ?

In the same manner self professed disability advocates can be ableist.

What are you talking about ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What are you talking about ?

About disability advocates being shitty ableists. As a person with a disability you're better off staying away from these types because they only want to pull you down and keep you disabled or worse, make you more disabled than you already are. You'll find these types anywhere where money is involved, or religion but also outside of these 2 areas.
Always remember that people who claim to be willing to help others don't always have your best interest in mind. Some of these guys are like legit cult leaders.
I am speaking from experience and don't want to look up any statistics or w/e. Do that for yourself.

 

[Logiko]

disability advocates

What do you mean by "disability advocate" ??

What does this have to do with leftist explaining that we must be positive with people in difficulty ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What do you mean by "disability advocate" ??

What does this have to do with leftist explaining that we must be positive with people in difficulty ?

Because what I described is the toxic destructive side of forcing positivity and fake acceptance.
Also you of all people shouldn't have a problem with fast topic changes, no?

 

[Logiko]

Because what I described is the toxic destructive side of forcing positivity and fake acceptance.
Also you of all people shouldn't have a problem with fast topic changes, no?

Oh don't worry, I don't mind topic change at all, I just wanted to know if it has something to do with what we were talking about.

I've never heard or seen about people forcing positivity or fake acceptance. Absolutely NOWHERE in leftism do we force positivity or promote fake acceptance.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Oh don't worry, I don't mind topic change at all, I just wanted to know if it has something to do with what we were talking about.

Nice passive aggressive way of trying to devalue my stance.

I've never heard or seen about people forcing positivity or fake acceptance. Absolutely NOWHERE in leftism do we force positivity or promote fake acceptance.

Riiiight:saden: