Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

So two of the most annoying users here are going head to head. In spite of what you all may think, I find logiko to be 10 times more bearable than ravager. At least logiko has a semblance of an idea of what he’s talking about.

Spare me the false compliment.

Is there an actual reason for you to keep throwing sh*t my way ? Because you seem to agree with every political things I say while I don't have anything to say about your political takes (At least until now, since you don't really take much risks).. And yet you keep on being hostile again and again toward me.

Did I do something to you mate ? Because if we are talking about annoying behavior, you really ARE NOT WELL PLACED to talk here buddy. If you want to compare the way you and I talk to people here, we can have fun...

So please, chill the F down with me before I start calling you a social traitor. 'Cause if there is one thing I can't stand, its opportunists who try to look good by putting others down, including those they agree with.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Spare me the false compliment.

Is there an actual reason for you to keep throwing sh*t my way ? Because you seem to agree with every political things I say while I don't have anything to say about your political takes (At least until now, since you don't really take much risks).. And yet you keep on being hostile again and again toward me.

Did I do something to you mate ? Because if we are talking about annoying behavior, you really ARE NOT WELL PLACED to talk here buddy. If you want to compare the way you and I talk to people here, we can have fun...

So please, chill the F down with me before I start calling you a social traitor. 'Cause if there is one thing I can't stand, its opportunists who try to look good by putting others down, including those they agree with.

You treat this forum as if it’s real life bro. For the sake of your own mental health you should stop doing that.

who cares if I find you annoying? You really shouldn’t put much stock in what people say in here about you. I don’t owe you any sort of allegiance just because we agree on certain things, so spare me with the “traitor” threats.

And just so you know, I am honest to a fault, at least when I post in here, and I am being serious when I say I find you extremely annoying. You don’t talk WITH users frenchie, you talk AT them, which explains why even some of the nicest users like Reloded can’t stand you.

you’re in your 30s man. Stop treating this forum as a replacement for real life, it really isn’t.

 

[Zenos7]

But those are not "talented", those people are simply gifted by nature with a synaptic connection that allows them to learn and create things immensly faster that the rest and deliver it with precise accuracy.

So , talented. Gotcha

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The point is not to make people with disability compete with people without them, the point is to make the competitive scene more accessible for all people. Because income is not the only thing that create inequalities in term of access to sport.

Bro pro sports is so overrated, they all end up destroying their bodies and without brand sponsorships they wouldn't be making any money after that happened and they're too old.
Btw you ever heard of the Paralympics?

 

[Mathias]

Bro pro sports is so overrated, they all end up destroying their bodies and without brand sponsorships they wouldn't be making any money after that happened and they're too old.
Btw you ever heard of the Paralympics?

Steroids

Post automatically merged: Apr 28, 2024

To be fair, since October 7th Logiko has been posting valuable stuff and dropped the lame ass video essays with pop culture examples about cis white males

Can't argue that he isn't still like this though

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

frenchie

Stop

Steroids

Sport is only good as battle training, steroids should be allowed as it doesn't matter how victory is achieved, lame ass competitive games are nonsense as they have nothing to do with the reality of combat, the only kind of games that should be accepted are those that don't sugar coat the true nature of physical conflict such as the Mesoamerican ballgame where winning was only possible by piling up the dead bodies of the opposing as well as your own team.

 

[Mathias]

Stop
Sport is only good as battle training, steroids should be allowed as it doesn't matter how victory is achieved, lame ass competitive games are nonsense as they have nothing to do with the reality of combat, the only kind of games that should be accepted are those that don't sugar coat the true nature of physical conflict such as the Mesoamerican ballgame where winning was only possible by piling up the dead bodies of the opposing as well as your own team.

I'm taking notes for the Mesoamerican ballgame


Imagine the world cup on steroids -and whatnot- now

Would Cristiano and Messi still stand at the top

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Mesoamerican ballgame

It has a Wikipedia article I think
Peak sport making Roman gladiator games look like children's play

Post automatically merged: Apr 28, 2024

I forgot to mention that the winning team was sacrificed to the gods

Would Cristiano and Messi still stand at the top

 

[Logiko]

You treat this forum as if it’s real life bro.

Mate. Time to get a reality check. This forum IS real life. Wether you want it or not, those who you are interacting with here are real person with real feelings that can pass through real sh*t. So you words have REAL impacts. Only people that want to be deresponsibilized from their behavior treat Internet as "not real".

All you do here, IS real.

who cares if I find you annoying? You really shouldn’t put much stock in what people say in here about you. I don’t owe you any sort of allegiance just because we agree on certain things, so spare me with the “traitor” threats.

Oh I won't spare you anything. Social traitors are those who - by opportunism - put down their leftist allies in every way they can while they are surrounded by opposite forces.

That's exactly what you are doing in this forum.

Dude, don't you think I find your behavior annoying here ? No ? Well yes, very much. You are insensitive and insulting toward others and yet, you don't see me reminding you how much of a annoying person you are. Simply because I know basic politic and I know that fighting my allies in a territory composed at 95% by the far right, conservatism, apolitical confusionnist and liberals is simply not viable and a political mistake.

I'm not talking here to you as a individual but as a political person. I don't care that you don't like me, I don't like you. Its not about that, its about the way we can we fight bigotry effectively here.

And just so you know, I am honest to a fault, at least when I post in here, and I am being serious when I say I find you extremely annoying. You don’t talk WITH users frenchie, you talk AT them, which explains why even some of the nicest users like Reloded can’t stand you.

Did you ever saw your post mate ? Your are not honest, you are F. rude. And yes, like I said, my goal is not to make friend here. My goal is to stop some behaviors from repeating by explaining things, this is something I've never hidden, if you don't like that, go take a walk.

From now on, I will stop treating you as an political ally. I've been too kind to you. You want to be treated like others ignorant people here ? Fine by me.

you’re in your 30s man. Stop treating this forum as a replacement for real life, it really isn’t.

Sorry, for wanting the only place where I can talk about One Piece to be nontoxic and inclusive. You wanna some meat with your salt ?

So , talented. Gotcha

Nop, no set of skill is natural.

Bro pro sports is so overrated, they all end up destroying their bodies and without brand sponsorships they wouldn't be making any money after that happened and they're too old.
Btw you ever heard of the Paralympics?

Overrated I don't know, but its been a too much usefull tool for capitalism for sure. Yes indeed paralympics are good, but even with that there is a problem of accessibility yet.

To be fair, since October 7th Logiko has been posting valuable stuff and dropped the lame ass video essays with pop culture examples about cis white males

See, the last few month I've been thinking that I really like what you post.. and you give me that sentence... come on !

Can you do me a favor, check the leftist library and go through the section "understanding feminism" ? I think there is a few things that you might wanna see or read there. (Or maybe its something I need to add, I don't know, but if you think this type of video are "lame ass video essay talking about white cis men", there might be a problem that needs to be understood):

Pop culture IS extremely important to understand how society work. Can you explain me why you have a problem with pop culture video ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Sorry, for wanting the only place where I can talk about One Piece to be nontoxic and inclusive. You wanna some meat with your salt ?

go to reddit, worstgen is synonymous with toxicity

IS

IS

Overrated I don't know, but its been a too much usefull tool for capitalism for sure.

Yes, overrated because international pro sports events are all vanity projects

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Stop

No.

 

[Logiko]

go to reddit, worstgen is synonymous with toxicity

I don't know why this has to be the case. There are good people here, I'm sure we can make a good forum out of this one.

Is Is Is Is ?

Yes, overrated because international pro sports events are all vanity projects

Yeah, you are not wrong. Well, the olympic games in Paris are draining everything and creating so much problems its really baffling

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Mate. Time to get a reality check. This forum IS real life. Wether you want it or not, those who you are interacting with here are real person with real feelings that can pass through real sh*t. So you words have REAL impacts. Only people that want to be deresponsibilized from their behavior treat Internet as "not real".

All you do here, IS real.


Oh I won't spare you anything. Social traitors are those who - by opportunism - put down their leftist allies in every way they can while they are surrounded by opposite forces.

That's exactly what you are doing in this forum.

Dude, don't you think I find your behavior annoying here ? No ? Well yes, very much. You are insensitive and insulting toward others and yet, you don't see me reminding you how much of a annoying person you are. Simply because I know basic politic and I know that fighting my allies in a territory composed at 95% by the far right, conservatism, apolitical confusionnist and liberals is simply not viable and a political mistake.

I'm not talking here to you as a individual but as a political person. I don't care that you don't like me, I don't like you. Its not about that, its about the way we can we fight bigotry effectively here.


Did you ever saw your post mate ? Your are not honest, you are F. rude. And yes, like I said, my goal is not to make friend here. My goal is to stop some behaviors from repeating by explaining things, this is something I've never hidden, if you don't like that, go take a walk.

From now on, I will stop treating you as an political ally. I've been too kind to you. You want to be treated like others ignorant people here ? Fine by me.


Sorry, for wanting the only place where I can talk about One Piece to be nontoxic and inclusive. You wanna some meat with your salt ?



Nop, no set of skill is natural.



Overrated I don't know, but its been a too much usefull tool for capitalism for sure. Yes indeed paralympics are good, but even with that there is a problem of accessibility yet.



See, the last few month I've been thinking that I really like what you post.. and you give me that sentence... come on !

Can you do me a favor, check the leftist library and go through the section "understanding feminism" ? I think there is a few things that you might wanna see or read there. (Or maybe its something I need to add, I don't know, but if you think this type of video are "lame ass video essay talking about white cis men", there might be a problem that needs to be understood):

Pop culture IS extremely important to understand how society work. Can you explain me why you have a problem with pop culture video ?

Do as you please my man. You’re wasting your life away having these delusions about this forum, which I find genuinely sad. Hopefully you can start realizing that and put your time into something that actually makes a positive impact irl, cuz this ain’t it brother.

Remember something tho. So far, I’m one of the only users who actually gives you the benefit of the doubt, 85% of these guys never do that. So I don’t agree with your assessment when you say I’m “extremely rude,” cuz I’ve defended you in the past when I thought you were right.

 

[Mathias]

Here is a recap.

I dropped most of the skepticism toward feminism, although I still don't think that women have been undernourished for thousands of years by men resulting in a lower height.

I think psychoanalysis is a good theory of the mind, but not so sure about its practical theory.

I think political correctness doesn't exist. But I do think that there are people who think themselves highly and pure because of leftism/progressism.

Meritocracy obviously never existed but there is somewhat of a will in people depending on many things. I mostly don't believe much in free-will.

Generally speaking, I don't think that "ignoring" the past of a transgender male/female is necessarily transphobic. I just think it's nicer to refer to people with their new pronouns. Still couldn't figure out about non-binarity very well but I'll eventually make my way there I guess lol.

Pop culture IS extremely important to understand how society work. Can you explain me why you have a problem with pop culture video ?

I don't know for sure and wouldn't be able to answer completely with a single argument, but I feel like I already gave an answer once by stating that the surge of people making video essays on youtube and trying to simplify already simple points made me cringe

And the whole "let's learn by having fun" vibe


All of this aside, you've made yourself known for talking ONLY about feminism for THOUSANDS OF PAGES

 

[Zenos7]

Your are not honest, you are F. rude.

Those arent mutually exclusive

 

[Logiko]

Do as you please my man. You’re wasting your life away having these delusions about this forum, which I find genuinely sad. Hopefully you can start realizing that and put your time into something that actually makes a positive impact irl, cuz this ain’t it brother.

There is no delusions, I actually believe that we can make this forum a better place. What you don't understand is that its not about the forum (at least not entierely), its about the political impact we can have against bigoted, apolitical, confusionnist and liberals ideas.

This forum, like many apolitical forums, is - again - the representation of a mini society. If we manage to make this forum a better place by reducing the toxicity and upping the positivity and the political knowledge (which have very little chances to actually happen), it could say a lot about the political impact that we could have in society against hegemonic and toxic political ideologies.

This is an experimentation for me, not a purposeless fight. And this fight is real, its not a virtual battle.

Remember something tho. So far, I’m one of the only users who actually gives you the benefit of the doubt, 85% of these guys never do that. So I don’t agree with your assessment when you say I’m “extremely rude,” cuz I’ve defended you in the past when I thought you were right.

Dude, if you are a leftist, its not the benefit of the doubt that you should give me, its support. I could understand that in another context in a real leftist environment, we could have actual points of contention, after all as the saying goes: "there is no greater ennemy to a leftist than another leftist", but we are not in a context that permits us militant purity, we need to fight the common BS ideology of the other side.

So yes, I'm explaining and not discussing with people. Simply because I believe that talking with the far right and BS is aknowledging and legitimating it and I refuse to do that. Also I have said absolutely NOTHING really radical or debatable on a leftist point of view here, all of the things are supported by actual evidences or militantism reality.

So let's chill.. Don't attack me for no reason and I won't in return and don't equate me to the far right BSter here, that would be a minimum.

If we want progress, we need to fight together, not eachothers.

although I still don't think that women have been undernourished for thousands of years by men resulting in a lower height.

I'm not a specialist of the subject but I think we have found evidences of women having the same body structure as men in the pre-neolothic era. Although you might be right, I don't think its because of malnourishment but rather because of the system and structure of power that pushed men to selectively choose women with less and less hight. (but again, I'm not a specialist on the subject, this might be a big error I'm making)

But I do think that there are people who think themselves highly and pure because of leftism/progressism.

That's not wrong, there is indeed a problem with militant purity in leftism yes.

I think psychoanalysis is a good theory of the mind, but not so sure about its practical theory.

I'll try to find some ressources in french for you to understand the problem, because (at least in France) there is really a problem with psychoanalysis.

Still couldn't figure out about non-binarity very well but I'll eventually make my way there I guess lol

Non binarity is indeed a difficult subject to understand when we are not familiar with it, it took me a few years to graps it. I suggest you watch this video of Anthony Padilla where he speaks with non binary people. If that's not enough, tell me, I might need to add something more indeed, I really didn't spend to much time on the subject. So there is very few content in the library about the subject.

And the whole "let's learn by having fun" vibe

I see, yeah I can understand. Sadly that one of the best way to vulgarize those subject, people don't really like to read book of sociology about the problem (me included hehe)

But you do agree with the points made tho ? I mean, you understand the purpose of those videos (even if you don't like video essay) ?

All of this aside, you've made yourself known for talking ONLY about feminism for THOUSANDS OF PAGES

Well... no one is doing that so...

Those arent mutually exclusive

Fair, this was a chip shot.

 

[Roo]

Oh I won't spare you anything. Social traitors are those who - by opportunism - put down their leftist allies in every way they can while they are surrounded by opposite forces.

bruh imagine being this ideologically driven where no one on your own side is allowed to criticize you

anyways I for one agree with the tiktok ban

 

[Zenos7]

I'm not a specialist of the subject but I think we have found evidences of women having the same body structure as men in the pre-neolothic era. Although you might be right, I don't think its because of malnourishment but rather because of the system and structure of power that pushed men to selectively choose women with less and less hight. (but again, I'm not a specialist on the subject, this might be a big error I'm making)

We wouldnt be the only species of primates with sexual dimorphism

 

[Roo]

We wouldnt be the only species of primates with sexual dimorphism

Bruh how did I miss that, a biologist would die from a stroke if he read that LMAO

 

[Zenos7]

Bruh how did I miss that, a biologist would die from a stroke if he read that LMAO

Ye, and all great apes have sexual dimorphism