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@Logiko you may have already answered these, so please be patient with me.
I am not sure how socialism could work in large groups. The smaller the group the better. Who would be in charge of making decisions? I imagine a smaller group where everyone has a place at the forum and a vote would work more effectively. I am thinking of small societies that run like Athenian democracies.
Even if people have external equality, what’s to stop them from feelings of inferiority or superiority? Won’t there be people who claim that they deserve more based on superficiality?
Also, I am busy so if I don’t respond in a timely manner that is why.
I am not sure how socialism could work in large groups. The smaller the group the better. Who would be in charge of making decisions? I imagine a smaller group where everyone has a place at the forum and a vote would work more effectively. I am thinking of small societies that run like Athenian democracies.
Even if people have external equality, what’s to stop them from feelings of inferiority or superiority? Won’t there be people who claim that they deserve more based on superficiality?
Also, I am busy so if I don’t respond in a timely manner that is why.
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Is a Nobel prize winner enough for you?
And please take a good read of the whole article and learn a thing or two of what science is really about. And no is not about your authoritarian idea of "I know what is science it doesn't change and who disagree from me is a denier"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/11/16/john-clauser-nobel-climate-denial/
It can't. Not even small groups.
That said "majority of scientific community" claiming climate change says that. And don't crop my parenthesis out since it is important. It is either the end of the world or the end of humanity.
Exactly. What people call capitalism flaws are always the things where governament interfere on it by making their friends getting ahead of competition and creating monopolies and similar stuff.
And please take a good read of the whole article and learn a thing or two of what science is really about. And no is not about your authoritarian idea of "I know what is science it doesn't change and who disagree from me is a denier"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/11/16/john-clauser-nobel-climate-denial/
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It can't. Not even small groups.
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That said "majority of scientific community" claiming climate change says that. And don't crop my parenthesis out since it is important. It is either the end of the world or the end of humanity.
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Exactly. What people call capitalism flaws are always the things where governament interfere on it by making their friends getting ahead of competition and creating monopolies and similar stuff.
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A gouvernment would be in charge of things wage, taxes and planning and assembly or groups of workers would own the factors of production. There would also be an assembly of scholar and scientific to help everyone make the best descision. The goal is to make create a classless society so workers needs to be in charges of their means of production.
If we end the rule of meritocracy there should no such thing or in minority.
But to get to such system we must pass through a system of transition first. Getting rid of capitalism will not be that easy.
Nobel prize in physic, that's not a climatologist mate. Ask climatologist. Asking a physician about climate is like asking an eye doctor to perform a chirgurgical operation.
Take a little look at this : https://skepticalscience.com/clauser-latest-climate-denying-physicist.html
I know what science is about and I don't need to read this article to know it, but you don't.
If we end the rule of meritocracy there should no such thing or in minority.
But to get to such system we must pass through a system of transition first. Getting rid of capitalism will not be that easy.
Nobel prize in physic, that's not a climatologist mate. Ask climatologist. Asking a physician about climate is like asking an eye doctor to perform a chirgurgical operation.
Take a little look at this : https://skepticalscience.com/clauser-latest-climate-denying-physicist.html
I know what science is about and I don't need to read this article to know it, but you don't.
@Logiko you have noble aspirations, however, do you think abolishing capitalism and meritocracy will happen in our lifetime? I am still worried that the scientific minds and scholars will still have a sense of superiority over the common workers. Wouldn’t there still be classes?
What role do you see yourself having in a classless society?
Thanks for answering my questions because I am honestly curious.
What role do you see yourself having in a classless society?
Thanks for answering my questions because I am honestly curious.
No
We might see the glimps of the end of meritocracy and capitalism, but I think its will happen in at least a century from now. But that's why we need to act now, because its a long process.
I don't know why you should fear that. Scientists and scholars are not here to rule, they are here to share search and share their knowledge, the more people will know, the better and happier they will be.
Socialism and by extention communism are aiming at a classless society. So no, there won't be classes. But there will be as long as meritocracy and capitalism are alive.
Author or scientist. Just like I would love to be in real life (if I had the priviledge of living 200 years)
Thanks you for being open to the discussion
Talking about a physicist talking BS about climatology: "degree are just paper"
You are funny
We might see the glimps of the end of meritocracy and capitalism, but I think its will happen in at least a century from now. But that's why we need to act now, because its a long process.
I don't know why you should fear that. Scientists and scholars are not here to rule, they are here to share search and share their knowledge, the more people will know, the better and happier they will be.
Socialism and by extention communism are aiming at a classless society. So no, there won't be classes. But there will be as long as meritocracy and capitalism are alive.
Author or scientist. Just like I would love to be in real life (if I had the priviledge of living 200 years)
Thanks you for being open to the discussionTalking about a physicist talking BS about climatology: "degree are just paper"
You are funny
No
We might see the glimps of the end of meritocracy and capitalism, but I think its will happen in at least a century from now. But that's why we need to act now, because its a long process.
I don't know why you should fear that. Scientists and scholars are not here to rule, they are here to share search and share their knowledge, the more people will know, the better and happier they will be.
Socialism and by extention communism are aiming at a classless society. So no, there won't be classes. But there will be as long as meritocracy and capitalism are alive.
Author or scientist. Just like I would love to be in real life (if I had the priviledge of living 200 years)
Thanks you for being open to the discussion
Talking about a physicist talking BS about climatology: "degree are just paper"
You are funny
We might see the glimps of the end of meritocracy and capitalism, but I think its will happen in at least a century from now. But that's why we need to act now, because its a long process.
I don't know why you should fear that. Scientists and scholars are not here to rule, they are here to share search and share their knowledge, the more people will know, the better and happier they will be.
Socialism and by extention communism are aiming at a classless society. So no, there won't be classes. But there will be as long as meritocracy and capitalism are alive.
Author or scientist. Just like I would love to be in real life (if I had the priviledge of living 200 years)
Thanks you for being open to the discussionTalking about a physicist talking BS about climatology: "degree are just paper"
You are funny
@Logiko capitalism will certainly be difficult to abolish. I am thinking as a citizen of the US. One way to abolish capitalism is to get rid of monopolies such as Amazon, Walmart, Target, and other big box stores. I don’t see it happening, but I would love if family run stores could return and not be crushed by Amazon. The problem is people are so dependent on the convenience of Amazon that there is zero chance that will happen.
I still don’t understand how there won’t be a ruling class in your society. The scientists will still be part of the educated class because they had to study and learn their field.
Let’s say you become a scientist what area would your expertise be in? How did you get on this panel of scientists? Aren’t you worried that people will resent you for having a spot at the table so to speak?
I still don’t understand how there won’t be a ruling class in your society. The scientists will still be part of the educated class because they had to study and learn their field.
Let’s say you become a scientist what area would your expertise be in? How did you get on this panel of scientists? Aren’t you worried that people will resent you for having a spot at the table so to speak?