Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

at that time

so what?i thought its the word of god and gives us objective morality? why isnt it applicable at all times then?

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* legalized child murder

Exod 21:22-25 NRSVUE - “When people who are fighting injure - Bible Gateway

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."

Here the full quote again. Please read it again.

You are all soon to be Mohameds. I'm pretty sure you said you had muslim roots too. Probably just another one of your lies too. It doesn't matter.

Nice how you change topics so easily when the debate doesn't go your way.

 

[Logiko]

@Zenos7 "slavery was abolished in despite of religion"
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Abolitionism-Key-Facts
"Despite its brutality and inhumanity, the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."
Yeah, Christianity has nothing to do with the abolition of slavery.

Do you feel like the depsychiatrization of Gay and Trans people has something to do with religion ?

 

[NAMELESS]

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

the new testament isnt doing anything to go against what the old establishes for slavery. no matter how much you cry

oh yeah, Christ asking slaves/servants to be treated farily did nothing to improve their condition. Dude, just admit you ignorant on christian history. I'm not educated in a bunch of topics either and so is everyone else. Take your L like a man. There is nothing Christian about slavery. Slavery existed in despite of Christianity. The first nations to abolish slavery were Christian ones too.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

We did, but the degeneracy is strong nowadays. Hunting to feed your kids is a no no in some places, but you can murder them before they are born.

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You killed the quote fluffy

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

He did the same with demenus yesterday

 

[Zenos7]

That's more of an abrahamic thing and even there syncretism is basically everywhere.

if religions have different creation stories, then they cant be true at the same time, and are therefore mutually exclusive. probably not true for every religion, but still

 

[NAMELESS]

if religions have different creation stories, then they cant be true at the same time, and are therefore mutually exclusive. probably not true for every religion, but still

They can have different creation stories and still have similar teachings. Not every religion treats creation myths as dogmas of faith. Just look at Asian religions. Another L

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

shit...so the average joe was a philosopher? Popular pressure had nothing to do with it? Are you sure the slave owners(which were the people that had money and time to study philosophy) would just let their slave trading empires die because they decided it was a good thing.

Nice, more goalpost moving and topic changing, very effective trolling from your side here, congratulations 👏👏🏼👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻

 

[NAMELESS]

You killed the quote fluffy

He did the same with demenus yesterday

I do it with you all the time. Why are you not happy about it?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

so what?i thought its the word of god and gives us objective morality? why isnt it applicable at all times then?

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Exod 21:22-25 NRSVUE - “When people who are fighting injure - Bible Gateway

Miscarriage is not categorized as harm🤔 explain this @NAMELESS

Take your L like a man

 

[NAMELESS]

Nice, more goalpost moving and topic changing, very effective trolling from your side here, congratulations 👏👏🏼👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻

Go play in the yard, kid. Adults talking. If anything,its this guy changing subjects.

 

[Logiko]

Are you dumb? Before Christianity there were a bazillion religions. How does that imply it was okay to murder? You murder someone from a different tribe you are getting yourself and your tribe into a conflict with a nearby tribe. It wasn't okay, but it happened. Just like war is not okay and we have Ukraine-Russia/Israel-Hamas going on right now.
Your schizoid personality must have degraded your IQ. These are obvious facts, but you don't really care about facts.

No there might have been cults, but no "religions". How did the hunter gatherer managed to survive without a morality based on religion then ?

The answer is simple : Because morality is a prerequisite to survivorship. Without it, you can hope to create a working society.

Also you might wanna take a look at this ma boy:

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/morality_animals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6404642/

I was the first to ask for a Herrera ban.

Take care of your butt

 

[NAMELESS]

Do you feel like the depsychiatrization of Gay and Trans people has something to do with religion ?

Its not about feelings. We are debating facts here. The entire debate towards homosexuality and mental health was destroyed thanks to militants like you. Science was censored thanks to people like you. What do i think of homsexuality? Currently i have no idea. I don't its just a preference, i believe there is more to it then that. Problem is, any scientist that cooks up an hypothesis that hurt the feelings of people like you gets his career destroyed.

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No there might have been cults, but no "religions". How did the hunter gatherer managed to survive without a morality based on religion then ?

The answer is simple : Because morality is a prerequisite to survivorship. Without it, you can hope to create a working society.

Also you might wanna take a look at this ma boy:

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/morality_animals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6404642/

Hunter and gatherers definitely had religious beliefs lol. What are you talking about? Is morality is essential to survival. A community where theft,rape,murder and so on is prevalent will never thrive. That much is obvious. Religion has being a thing ever since men have being a thing. Burial rites are a proof of this.

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Take care of your butt

Wtf are you implying? Do you want to rape me or something?

 

[RebelliousSoma]

No there might have been cults, but no "religions".

What is and isn't a religion is approved by the law, which differs from country to country.

 

[NAMELESS]

What is and isn't a religion is approved by the law, which differs from country to country.

Dude, noooooooooooooo. Religion came first and then civilization. Religion is the unifying factor that eventually translates into a common law.

 

[Zenos7]

He did the same with demenus yesterday

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They can have different creation stories and still have similar teachings. Not every religion treats creation myths as dogmas of faith. Just look at Asian religions. Another L

they still cant be true at the same time, despite having values that are similar.

Big L indeed

 

[NAMELESS]

so what?i thought its the word of god and gives us objective morality? why isnt it applicable at all times then?

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Exod 21:22-25 NRSVUE - “When people who are fighting injure - Bible Gateway

Dude,that is the old testament. This is the old jewish law. Christians moved past this. I don't know if you realize this, but God has made multiple pacts with humanity and the laws changed accordingly. Law changes according to human development. Its that simple.

 

[Zenos7]

Nice, more goalpost moving and topic changing, very effective trolling from your side here, congratulations 👏👏🏼👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻

thats part of the script

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Dude,that is the old testament. This is the old jewish law. Christians moved past this.

objective morality where? not here then, which was one of my points earlier on

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Dude, noooooooooooooo. Religion came first and then civilization. Religion is the unifying factor that eventually translates into a common law.

Was talking about today's world, since it's by that standard he was holding the old religions, calling them cults.

 

[NAMELESS]

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they still cant be true at the same time, despite having values that are similar.

Big L indeed

holy shit...you do realize that creation myths are treated in many religions the same way we treat kids tales. They are methaphors to explain stuff, not necessarily like dogma. You putting all religions in the same basket,which is indeed an L take.

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Was talking about today's world, since it's by that standard he was holding the old religions, calling them cults.

ah ok, i missed the sarcasm. yeah, its his secular mind at play here.