Controversial General Political Discussion

[Daniel]

So you're gonna believe a PR stunt and a curated press conference over the testimonies of hundreds of people and former employees? You don't have "proves," it's pure cope in order to glorify a deeply flawed man that has a history of scamming people and discriminating against his employees.

A shame that amongst hundreds of accusations, we rarely, if ever get to hear the words from the defendant for the reasons.

And yes, quite a number of high profile figures (including your Biden here) get them from time to time but some accusations (such as the Ashlee Biden diary + Hunter Biden's cocaine reveal (makes me wonder what else the Bidens got up in their closet)) get people riled up more than others.

Also, recent controversies generally tend to trigger people living in the present vs shit that happened decades back

 

[Zemmi]

So.. everything documented here.... is false ?

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

Does each of those things listed sound like racism to you?

Btw so we are clear here. I don't even care about Biden's accusations of racism to compare him to the present him, I dislike him for completely different reasons. I just think it's insane people ignore his acts.

I remember this sweet old lady asked me if I adopted my oldest child from Africa and I didn't get offended because she came from a time where the world was just different. Then she asked me if my husband was Hispanic and I decided to save her face and just say yes, since there was no husband. I got pissed at the cashier that acted like my child was diseased and wouldn't touch anything he did though.

 

[Uncle Van]

Am I a liberal?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Am I a liberal?

no.

 

[Uncle Van]

no.

Just curious. Cause both left and right wingers just toss out "liberal" as an insult. Neither side wants to claim it and neither seem to know what a liberal even is.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Just curious. Cause both left and right wingers just toss out "liberal" as an insult. Neither side wants to claim it and neither seem to know what a liberal even is.

When I use the word liberal I use it in the context of American politics. Just standard centrist incrementalist.

 

[Saturn-sama]

This french lunatic really used vox as a source.

the most TDS communist loving fake narrative pushers out there.

should‘ve used r/Antifa as a better source🤣

 

[Zemmi]

The Babylonbee is funny.

1.) Goliath claims he only lost because h fought David on slightly sloped surface.
2.) Secret Service reveals head of trump security was Chief Wiggum.
3.) Trump disappointed nurse didn't give him dinosaur bandage.
4.) 'Let's settle this at the ballot box,' says party that tried to kick trump of ballots
5.) Vance Dons Helmet and Body armor in preparation to run with trump
6.) "Welp, nothing we can do now,' sighs secret service after assassin climbs on modestly-sloped roof
7.) Secret service director assures nation she wasn't trying to get trump killed, she's just extremely incompetent
8.) Political Analysts predict winner of the presidential race will probably be the one who survives until November
9.) Oh No! Piece of ear shot off trump begins to grow into second trump
10.) Woman worried her eyebrows aren't stupid enough (added this one just because it's funny)
11.) Trump indicted for inciting assassination attempt
12.) JD Vance horrified to lean he must now use truth social
13.) Secret Service vows to find out what went wrong at the trump rally as soon as the figure out who left cocaine in the white house.
14,) Biden Tells Americans that we must eliminate political violence and also Donald Trump
15.) Secret Service beefs up Trump's security with squad of blind midgets
16.) FBI wonders if perhaps they've been investigating the wrong people this whole time
17. Trump safe, leaving only one dead candidate
18.) CNN: Clumsy Trump hits head on bullet.
19.) Party that called Trump Hitler for 8 years shocked as someone tries to assassinate him

 

[Uncle Van]

When I use the word liberal I use it in the context of American politics. Just standard centrist incrementalist.

A liberal in general is someone who wants the govenrment to enforce social equality, but at the same is pro capitalist. They tend to seek change gradually(politicians only when it's to their benefit).
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The Babylonbee is funny.

1.) Goliath claims he only lost because h fought David on slightly sloped surface.
2.) Secret Service reveals head of trump security was Chief Wiggum.
3.) Trump disappointed nurse didn't give him dinosaur bandage.
4.) 'Let's settle this at the ballot box,' says party that tried to kick trump of ballots
5.) Vance Dons Helmet and Body armor in preparation to run with trump
6.) "Welp, nothing we can do now,' sighs secret service after assassin climbs on modestly-sloped roof
7.) Secret service director assures nation she wasn't trying to get trump killed, she's just extremely incompetent
8.) Political Analysts predict winner of the presidential race will probably be the one who survives until November
9.) Oh No! Piece of ear shot off trump begins to grow into second trump
10.) Woman worried her eyebrows aren't stupid enough (added this one just because it's funny)
11.) Trump indicted for inciting assassination attempt
12.) JD Vance horrified to lean he must now use truth social
13.) Secret Service vows to find out what went wrong at the trump rally as soon as the figure out who left cocaine in the white house.
14,) Biden Tells Americans that we must eliminate political violence and also Donald Trump
15.) Secret Service beefs up Trump's security with squad of blind midgets
16.) FBI wonders if perhaps they've been investigating the wrong people this whole time
17. Trump safe, leaving only one dead candidate
18.) CNN: Clumsy Trump hits head on bullet.
19.) Party that called Trump Hitler for 8 years shocked as someone tries to assassinate him

Also, the idiots on the View tried to pretend they had nothing to do with it, despite saying that wearing a MAGA hat is no different than wearing a swastika.

 

[Logiko]

Does each of those things listed sound like racism to you?

Each of those things ARE forms of racism, yes.

Just curious. Cause both left and right wingers just toss out "liberal" as an insult. Neither side wants to claim it and neither seem to know what a liberal even is.

Apolitical with liberal tendancy. That's what I would call you.

You try to stand above the political (as if this was a legitimate position) and you defend some of the same value current liberals have about politics and society.

You are not a far rightist
You are not a conservatist or a libertarian (at least, you never mentionned those views here, well you did developp a racist rethoric at one point but I think it was more of a lack of understanding rather than a real ideology thingy)
You are not a leftist since you would be able to understand why politics are important and why we should always moderate toxic behaviors, especially transphobic ones. Also, you would be on my side even if you dislike my ego or my way to talk.
And you are definitely not a far leftist or a revolutionnary.

This only left two things : The liberal side. The "centrist" way, the one that doesn't take risks or the apolitical side, the one that doesn't care.

My belief is that you are an apolitical that sometimes tends to care... especially when it comes to ridiculize leftism. Which makes you in my eyes a apolitical with liberal tendancies.

I've demonstrated what liberalism is, but go ahead, you seems to have skin in the game ! So what do you want Van ?

Tell us, what do you stand for !

This french lunatic really used vox as a source.

I spent literally 2 second on my research on googl bra.. The point was not to make a scientific documentation, but to make a point. Explaining that it doesn't take much time to understand the inherant racism of Trump and his white supremacist followers.

the most TDS communist loving fake narrative pushers out there.

Still not a communist.
Reformist here.

should‘ve used r/Antifa as a better source🤣

I'm am an internet anti-Fa tho. You got that right.

 

[Uncle Van]

Apolitical: not interested or involved in politics.

If that's true then I wouldn't post here or talk about politics in general. Whole posts falls apart with the very first line...

 

[Zemmi]

A liberal in general is someone who wants the govenrment to enforce social equality, but at the same is pro capitalist. They tend to seek change gradually(politicians only when it's to their benefit).
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Also, the idiots on the View tried to pretend they had nothing to do with it, despite saying that wearing a MAGA hat is no different than wearing a swastika.

I don't claim that republicans haven't said some insane things, but a lot of the left are acting innocent and even blaming Trump for getting shot. People are creating montages where democrats were not metaphorically but literally telling people to act out violence on Republicans.

 

[Logiko]

Apolitical: not interested or involved in politics.

If that's true then I wouldn't post here or talk about politics in general. Whole posts falls apart with the very first line...

A lot of apolitical are actually involved in political statements and values. They simply believe that all politicians are dangerous, that there is "no hope" or they are simply ok with the current situation..

 

[Toby D. Dog]

A liberal in general is someone who wants the govenrment to enforce social equality, but at the same is pro capitalist. They tend to seek change gradually(politicians only when it's to their benefit).

I’m aware of the definition and you know it. I explained to you how and in what context I use the word. Are you baiting again?

 

[Uncle Van]

I’m aware of the definition and you know it. I explained to you how and in what context I use the word. Are you baiting again?

O...k....I'm lost...

 

[Toby D. Dog]

O...k....I'm lost...

Nice try.

 

[Uncle Van]

Nice try.

No I'm genuinely lost. You gave your context of how you use the term liberal. I mention what liberal is by definition and it doesn't contradict what you said.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

No I'm genuinely lost. You gave your context of how you use the term liberal. I mention what liberal is by definition and it doesn't contradict what you said.

Cuz you sometimes you like to lecture others on the definition of political terminology, which is a tad condescending when we've had this convo like 3 times already.

 

[Uncle Van]

Cuz you sometimes you like to lecture others on the definition of political terminology, which is a tad condescending when we've had this convo like 3 times already.

In that case you right and I 100% concede here. I apologize for that

 

[Toby D. Dog]

In that case you right and I 100% concede here. I apologize for that

all good.