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@Logiko When you're back tomorrow, I'd like to get your thoughts on racist skits in TV shows like the 2 below. Do you think they're acceptable, or do they cross the line? Additionally, what do these skits suggest about race relations in society and the progress we're making overall?
Some of these wrestling skits back in the day were way outta pocket lol
Almost wish they did this shit today just to read the reactions online
Almost wish they did this shit today just to read the reactions online
@Logiko When you're back tomorrow, I'd like to get your thoughts on racist skits in TV shows like the 2 below. Do you think they're acceptable, or do they cross the line? Additionally, what do these skits suggest about race relations in society and the progress we're making overall?
It shows that we have made progress to fight racism since this is not acceptable today. :)
Also lets see :
I will need reliable sources for all of that. I'm not a Spain specialist, so I won't believe you until there are evidences. Also, a lot of things here are "They did that, but I did not see the impact or the reasons, so they obviously just did that to stay in power"... yeah.. I won't believe this kind of rethoric.
THose guys where close to his ideology, so yes, it logical. They were definitely not leftists.
I think you are confusing defending the elections and defending Maduro. The left do not necessarily defend Maduro.
Its not even Communist, its corrupted from all side. Maduro is trying to implement some leftist things but it seems that even he is corrupted. There are not saint in this arena.
How do you know that ? Do you have proof coming from an international investigation ?
I'm not saying its wrong. But what are the UNDENIABLE evidences ?
I did not say "left is good" I implied that the left was always on the left of the right side and ASIDE from obvious authoritarian gov on the left... the left will always be better than the right on every subjects.
And it still stand. If you are on the right side.. its really not targetting leftist will not be the bright move you think it is. Leftist on the other hand will be much more legitimate to do that.
But I know how to recognize a leftist when I see one. And I didn't see any here.
Again. Like Van, you are making the mistake than because I'm telling you that there are two clear side, you think that I'm telling you that there is no nuance.
This is not the case. Let me show you what I told to Van:
As you can see, two side, a dark and a bright one. BUT with nuance inside of them. And INSIDE those nuance (if you were to zoom in really close) you would find little cluster of color of the other side. Because even in the left, there are rightist biases and in the Right, there are progressive ideas.
My vision of politic.. in reality, in far for complex than you think. Its simply, clearly structured.
And for saying that. Its obvious that you are a [FIND YOUR LABEL HERE] and I'm not proud of you.
Also lets see :
I will need reliable sources for all of that. I'm not a Spain specialist, so I won't believe you until there are evidences. Also, a lot of things here are "They did that, but I did not see the impact or the reasons, so they obviously just did that to stay in power"... yeah.. I won't believe this kind of rethoric.
THose guys where close to his ideology, so yes, it logical. They were definitely not leftists.
I think you are confusing defending the elections and defending Maduro. The left do not necessarily defend Maduro.
Its not even Communist, its corrupted from all side. Maduro is trying to implement some leftist things but it seems that even he is corrupted. There are not saint in this arena.
How do you know that ? Do you have proof coming from an international investigation ?
I'm not saying its wrong. But what are the UNDENIABLE evidences ?
I did not say "left is good" I implied that the left was always on the left of the right side and ASIDE from obvious authoritarian gov on the left... the left will always be better than the right on every subjects.
And it still stand. If you are on the right side.. its really not targetting leftist will not be the bright move you think it is. Leftist on the other hand will be much more legitimate to do that.
But I know how to recognize a leftist when I see one. And I didn't see any here.
Again. Like Van, you are making the mistake than because I'm telling you that there are two clear side, you think that I'm telling you that there is no nuance.
This is not the case. Let me show you what I told to Van:
We consider that sometimes, the world IS black and white, not always, but a LOT of time. And that in those case, accepting to make compromises with toxic ideologies is not possible.
Liberals made you believe that rationnality was synonymous of being able to see the nuances in politics. That the right thing to do was to be able to pick and choose what was right and wrong in all sides of the political spectrum.
Problem : This ideology the result of a sophism : the middle-ground fallacy. The belief that the truth lies somewhere in between opposing propositions.
In reality, where you uses that ideology, you put yourself to the right side, simply because taking idea from the right and from the left will ALWAYS benefit the right side.
This is how you might think the political spectrum is:
With two side and a "rationnal" middle ground. But in reality, this is how the political spectrum really is:
Two sides, black and white, bright and dark, blue and red, with NUANCES but two sides that are NOT reconcilable !
Politics exist because of the opposition of values. If we start to make the opposition dissapear, we depoliticize the conflict and we lose the reason why there is a conflict in the first place without resolving the issues behind the conflict.
In other words, we sweep the dust under the carpet.
Centrism and depolitization only helps the status co.
Liberals made you believe that rationnality was synonymous of being able to see the nuances in politics. That the right thing to do was to be able to pick and choose what was right and wrong in all sides of the political spectrum.
Problem : This ideology the result of a sophism : the middle-ground fallacy. The belief that the truth lies somewhere in between opposing propositions.
In reality, where you uses that ideology, you put yourself to the right side, simply because taking idea from the right and from the left will ALWAYS benefit the right side.
This is how you might think the political spectrum is:
With two side and a "rationnal" middle ground. But in reality, this is how the political spectrum really is:
Two sides, black and white, bright and dark, blue and red, with NUANCES but two sides that are NOT reconcilable !
Politics exist because of the opposition of values. If we start to make the opposition dissapear, we depoliticize the conflict and we lose the reason why there is a conflict in the first place without resolving the issues behind the conflict.
In other words, we sweep the dust under the carpet.
Centrism and depolitization only helps the status co.
My vision of politic.. in reality, in far for complex than you think. Its simply, clearly structured.
And for saying that. Its obvious that you are a [FIND YOUR LABEL HERE] and I'm not proud of you.