Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

The only thing that I didnt like there is the restaurant there. Almost all restaurant were basically fastood. If you dont go to a barbecue, you are in trouble.

I’ve never been.

Somehow they are under the impression they’ve won 4 world cups which is funny as heck. 😭

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I’ve never been.

Somehow they are under the impression they’ve won 4 world cups which is funny as heck. 😭

I saw that

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I saw that

It’s because they won twofold Olympic medals before the World Cup was a thing.

It’s the stupidest thing ever 😂😂😂

 

[Uncle Van]

It’s because they won twofold Olympic medals before the World Cup was a thing.

It’s the stupidest thing ever 😂😂😂

Off topic, but is it bad that I didn't recognize Trump in your pfp because he wasn't orange?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Off topic, but is it bad that I didn't recognize Trump in your pfp because he wasn't orange?

He does still have an orange tint. Just take a closer look.

 

[Uncle Van]

He does still have an orange tint. Just take a closer look.

Ok I see it now. Looks more like a tan mask though lol

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Ok I see it now. Looks more like a tan mask though lol

Yeah, boy is aging on 2x speed.

 

[Owl Ki]

You're confusing Palestine with the "general Muslim world". Most Sunni countries are allies of America. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are strong allies.

Turkey? Are you actually serious?

Erdogan literally accused the USA of trying to overthrow him. Turkey has maintained this claim for years.

2016 article
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/18/turkey-blames-us-coup-attempt/87260612/

2018 article.
https://www.voanews.com/a/turkish-president-accuses-us-coup-attempt/4199728.html

2021 article.
https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...hind-2016-failed-coup-hurriyet-idUSKBN2A41NE/

The USA still continues to deny Turkey's extradition request for Fethullah Gülen, the bloke Erdogan claims was the Turkish leader of the coup attempt.

This isn't even mentioning the fact that the US supports Kurdish militias that Turkey flat out considers separatist terrorist organisations, organisations that Turkey wants destroyed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...ers-east-of-euphrates-in-syria-idUSKCN1N416E/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...reprisals-against-us-backed-kurdish-militants

Turkey is even openly talking about joining BRICS.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-with-eu-talks-is-prompting-outreach-to-brics

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-welcomes-turkeys-reported-desire-join-brics-2024-06-04/

Turkey is not a strong ally of the US at all. It is an ally of inconvenience that is tolerated due to its long term membership of NATO, sizeable armed forces and its control over the Bosphorus.

Saudi Arabia isn't a steadfast "friend" of the the US either. It is a purely self-interested business nation. Its relationship with the US has been on a downward trajectory ever since Biden called for making it a pariah state.

We had the US being publicly snubbed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/16/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-snubs-top-us-diplomat/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ages-biden-and-aids-putin-with-oil-output-cut

https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-snubs-us-embraces-china-russia-2022-12

Meanwhile they have been dramatically increasing dialogue with Russia and China.

https://www.reuters.com/world/riyad...ganization-ties-with-beijing-grow-2023-03-29/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...sidering-brics-membership-sources-2024-01-18/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...iddle-east-to-meet-with-uae-and-saudi-leaders

https://swentr.site/news/588823-arab-monarchies-russia-us/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/6/chinas-xi-to-visit-saudi-arabia-from-wednesday

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...deal-driving-wave-of-reconciliation-says-wang

It is obvious that the Saudis are diversifying their diplomatic ties and not sticking to the US like glue. They are fair weather friends to the US at best, they'll drop the US at a moment's notice if they think it will benefit them.

Most Arab countries look at Palestine as their little brother who got involved in a cult. They'll still support it because of their ethnic ties, but they know these places like Hezbollah/Hamas have been fucked by Iran.

What cult? The Muslim Brotherhood? Cause that's Sunni Islam, nothing to do with Shia Iran.

Hamas is not a steadfast ally of Iran the way Hezbollah is. Those two backed opposite sides during the Syrian Civil War.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/hamas-ditches-assad-backs-syrian-revolt-idUSTRE81N1EX/

Iran just doesn't want Israel to triumph over them, that's all.

It's got nothing to do with the "zionist lobby". Israel is America's strongest ally in the Middle East. It's their foothold in the Middle East (even more so than Turkey who is in Nato or Saudis).

Lmao. Strongest pain in the arse parasite more like. Israel has cost the US nothing but money, diplomatic penalties and lost goodwill.

It would have been much more simple and effective to court an already existing nation and turn it into a dependable ally than to play manifest destiny with Zionist colonial settlers and invest in a near century long genocide.

Israel was useless during the War on Terror or defeating ISIS. Strongest ally my arse.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Fuck it, I'll vote for Trump.

It won't matter anyway so might as well troll.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This post basically boils down to asking "Why don't the Arab nations actively assist Israel in ethnically cleansing Palestine at 100% benefit to Israel and 100% detriment to the Arabs?".

Do you think it was right for the world to deny Jewish refugees during the Holocaust?

Post automatically merged: Aug 24, 2024

Oh so if they don't let Israel have it their way and displace the Palestinian people to have the land they are part of the problem. Basically "hey Israel is bad, but you are also bad for not letting them have it their way at your own loss". Yeah let's give Israel the land and natural gas and resources and let's randomly give Egypt 2 millions refugees. That will not affect Egypt at all.
Are you a Democrat? They are just unable to understand sustainability and basic economy. It seems you all think every state is just a bottomless pit of money and resources that should be given to everyone all the time.
Besides if the Zionists are claiming that basically every Palestinian is a terrorist, why are they telling other countries to take them?

Yes, they are bad for using the Palestinians as political pawns and prolonging their suffering.

It’s not about “letting Israel win”. Israel is already doing whatever it wants. They’re already doing genocide in Gaza. They’re already doing apartheid in the West Bank.

by keeping the doors shut to refugees, the Arab states are just screwing the Palestinians

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Fuck it, I'll vote for Trump.

It won't matter anyway so might as well troll.

And then Trump wins in your state by 1 vote

 

[Akai2]

Fuck it, I'll vote for Trump.

It won't matter anyway so might as well troll.

Someone hacked Toby during his ban

 

[Toby D. Dog]

And then Trump wins in your state by 1 vote

New York?

I’ll go out on a limb and say that probably won’t happen.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

By the way, some new theories seem to suggest that the earliest American inhabitants were not from East Asia but from Europe and Western Asia

Unscientific bs usually endorsed by white supremacists. Also those '''theories''' aren't new at all

There's no population in human history that will tell you that since they destroyed another population they should now happily be destroyed.

Europeans aren't being destroyed. They live in the Americas and Australia now. Europe can be happily repopulated by middle Easterners and the so called white race would still exist. And BTW today's 'white' Europeans are the descendants of immigrants from the east. multiple waves to he precise.

Yeah, boy is aging on 2x speed.

It looks like a.i.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Unscientific bs usually endorsed by white supremacists. Also those '''theories''' aren't new at all

Things that don't fit your agenda seem to be unscientific without any need to elaborate.

Europeans aren't being destroyed. They live in the Americas and Australia now. Europe can be happily repopulated by middle Easterners and the so car pled white race would still exist. And BTW today's 'white' Europeans are the descendants of immigrants from the east. multiple waves to he precise.

The USA and Australia are also subjected to massive immigration. So you even confess and gloat about Europe having to be turned into a Muslim country, I had no doubts. Guess you'll enjoy your sharia courts.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Europe having to be turned into a Muslim country

Europe is not a country. S*up** American.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Europe is not a country. S*up** American.

I used the future tense. What a moron, I am not even American. But I guess me saying I'm not American is also unscientific.

 

[Mathias]

I used the future tense. What a moron, I am not even American. But I guess me saying I'm not American is also unscientific.

Exactly what an American would say

 

[Logiko]

The death toll in the Americas was not wholly part of a genocidal project, but largely due to medical issues. But you already know and you choose to lie to keep your agenda.

Yes, it was. That was the purpose. The purpose was colonization and the appropriation of ressources ! Ethnic cleansing, crime against humanity and genocide is literally what happened for 70 B of people. And death by illness IMPORTED is still part of the genocide. Don't start to deny these atrocities to help your agenda or we REALLY won't be friend here.

Every war is made for profit, enslavement and appropriation are nothing new. The Europeans had a technological edge so they were able to conquer most of the world, but it's not like many of the subjected people were more peaceful. Plenty of them were probably even worse than the Europeans.

No one is saying that the world was peacefull before. We are telling you that Europeean pushed the bar specifically on an ideological basis.

Most of the other populaces didn't do it because they didn't want to, but because they couldn't. Even the crusades, which are something liberals always cry about, weren't really that big of a deal

Yeah, stop talking, you are ridiculizing yourself. "Not a big of a deal" : 1.7 of people dead.

The reason why some civilizations can't still rise is precisely because of the result of this imperialism and because it's STILL GOING today.

Fuck it, I'll vote for Trump.

Never vote for the far right. Even if you need to vote for liberals.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Yes, it was. That was the purpose. The purpose was colonization and the appropriation of ressources ! Ethnic cleansing, crime against humanity and genocide is literally what happened for 70 B of people. And death by illness IMPORTED is still part of the genocide. Don't start to deny these atrocities to help your agenda or we REALLY won't be friend here.

Apart of some very limited episodes during war, there wasn't even that much knowledge about these illnesses or antibodies. The extremely vast majority of the contagion didn't really happen on purpose, anyone who says otherwise is an obnoxious liar. Most of the time these people didn't even know what was happening.

No one is saying that the world was peacefull before. We are telling you that Europeean pushed the bar specifically on an ideological basis.

The Europeans weren't really that different from other populations, they just had the means to conquest on a greater level. But you have to push your agenda that war and oppression were invented by white people while the rest of the world is made of hippies who cry when you throw an empty soda can to the ground.

Yeah, stop talking, you are ridiculizing yourself. "Not a big of a deal" : 1.7 of people dead.

1.7 millions in 200 years, most of it likely being military personnel. Your nonsensical cries are also based in the fact that in your mind the Middle East is Islamic so the Christians were expanding and stealing Muslim land but it was quite the contrary.

The reason why some civilizations can't still rise is precisely because of the result of this imperialism and because it's STILL GOING today.

Massive Wakanda cope.

Never vote for the far right. Even if you need to vote for liberals.

Everything is far-right according to you liberals, even parties on your left.