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Ok. Since none of you want to understand I'll go to the basics. I created an allegory with the help my friend chatGPT for this one, because I was too dumb to simplify correctly an allegory about oppression on my own:
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The Allegory of Burdens
Imagine three people: Muhammad, Noah, and Isaiah.
Now, imagine that someone starts mocking Muhammad for walking slowly or tripping. That’s unfair, because Muhammad is carrying a huge burden, and it’s this weight that slows him down. Similarly, mocking Isaiah, who is also carrying a burden, is cruel, because their bag makes it hard for them to walk as fast as Noah.
On the other hand, if someone mocks Noah for stumbling, it’s less harmful because Noah doesn’t have much to carry and can easily get back up without any major struggle.
Conclusion: Mocking Muhammad or Isaiah, who carry heavy burdens, only adds to their struggles, since they’re already facing obstacles that Noah doesn’t have. Mocking Noah, who carries almost nothing, is much less hurtful because he doesn’t have the same burdens holding him back.
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Ok. So now I hope you understand where I'm getting at through this simple logic exercice. I made it more precise by giving each chararacters a specific prophet name corresponding to a religion and thus, believers:
Muhammad > Muslims
Isaiah > Jews
Noah > Christians
You see, in the west Muslims are oppressed on a systemic scale. This is something that is documented by researchers. Jews on the other hand are victims of large scale antisemitic rethoric from a lot of places. Jew's oppression is a lot less impactfull that the oppression that are facing muslims, but it still present, especially in France where Jew are the target of the far right.
On the other hand, Christianity is hegemonic in the majority of western cultures and Christian are not subject to large scale oppressions or systemic ones.
So.. what happens when you make fun of every believers in the same way ? Well.. You will accentuate the burden of oppression that already exist on Muslims and Jews, thus making them the target of more remarks, more systemic reforms, more attacks etc.. while Christians on the other hand, will simply have to face a bad joke.
This is not a question of hating Christians, Christian have nothing to do with it. It's a question of avoiding putting more pressure on the shoulder of other believers when it can only worsen their situation.
This is why you can't treat people under oppression the same way as you treat people who are not.
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The Allegory of Burdens
Imagine three people: Muhammad, Noah, and Isaiah.
- Muhammad is carrying a very heavy bag full of large rocks.
- Isaiah is carrying a slightly lighter bag, but it's still bulky and hard to carry.
- Noah, on the other hand, has only a small, nearly empty bag, which is easy to carry.
Now, imagine that someone starts mocking Muhammad for walking slowly or tripping. That’s unfair, because Muhammad is carrying a huge burden, and it’s this weight that slows him down. Similarly, mocking Isaiah, who is also carrying a burden, is cruel, because their bag makes it hard for them to walk as fast as Noah.
On the other hand, if someone mocks Noah for stumbling, it’s less harmful because Noah doesn’t have much to carry and can easily get back up without any major struggle.
Conclusion: Mocking Muhammad or Isaiah, who carry heavy burdens, only adds to their struggles, since they’re already facing obstacles that Noah doesn’t have. Mocking Noah, who carries almost nothing, is much less hurtful because he doesn’t have the same burdens holding him back.
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Ok. So now I hope you understand where I'm getting at through this simple logic exercice. I made it more precise by giving each chararacters a specific prophet name corresponding to a religion and thus, believers:
Muhammad > Muslims
Isaiah > Jews
Noah > Christians
You see, in the west Muslims are oppressed on a systemic scale. This is something that is documented by researchers. Jews on the other hand are victims of large scale antisemitic rethoric from a lot of places. Jew's oppression is a lot less impactfull that the oppression that are facing muslims, but it still present, especially in France where Jew are the target of the far right.
On the other hand, Christianity is hegemonic in the majority of western cultures and Christian are not subject to large scale oppressions or systemic ones.
So.. what happens when you make fun of every believers in the same way ? Well.. You will accentuate the burden of oppression that already exist on Muslims and Jews, thus making them the target of more remarks, more systemic reforms, more attacks etc.. while Christians on the other hand, will simply have to face a bad joke.
This is not a question of hating Christians, Christian have nothing to do with it. It's a question of avoiding putting more pressure on the shoulder of other believers when it can only worsen their situation.
This is why you can't treat people under oppression the same way as you treat people who are not.
A thread consisting of a bunch of male weebs on a forum arguing about whether the female gaze is targeted through muscles. Guess I’ll join.
That is the biggest generalization btw. Sure it’s a thing some women want, but the level of the muscles seen in a lot of movies like marvel etc. definitely is aimed more at the male gaze. It’s like the same logic as why a young boy buys an action figure of a beefy character or a wrestler.
There’s a big difference in how it’s depicted and a lot of content with dominant male audience tends to that gaze.
That is the biggest generalization btw. Sure it’s a thing some women want, but the level of the muscles seen in a lot of movies like marvel etc. definitely is aimed more at the male gaze. It’s like the same logic as why a young boy buys an action figure of a beefy character or a wrestler.
There’s a big difference in how it’s depicted and a lot of content with dominant male audience tends to that gaze.
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Again up to the individual.
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Would Power Rangers be problematic if it was created in this era? 
That shit is problematic in this era. But im hyped af
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Imo its important to make a distinction between religions and their adherents. Religions are a set of ideas that should be free to be criticized and ridiculed.
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Frankly don’t really remember this one
And yeah I agree the message of the drawing is a bit confusing
but from what I understood when I checked up online (just did 2 seconds ago) it was to criticize the far right who didn’t want immigrants to have benefits
but yeah the link with the kidnapped girls is a bit missed for me
And yeah I agree the message of the drawing is a bit confusing
but from what I understood when I checked up online (just did 2 seconds ago) it was to criticize the far right who didn’t want immigrants to have benefits
but yeah the link with the kidnapped girls is a bit missed for me