Controversial General Political Discussion

[notAfanboy]

don't get yourself banned for no reason

Sure AL SAMA. Thanks for the heads up.

Pakistan will be bifurcated into two just like in 1971.

I dont complain when I debate with others. But try to refrain from saying things like this.
I can go into the details, but I will leave it at this.
Peace.

He's like a low key Tejas.

Yeah, but it does not matter because their core tenets are the same.
Regardless, government knows how to deal with these issues and I leave it to them.
At the same time, I hope there are no more wars.

 

[Reborn]

Sure AL SAMA. Thanks for the heads up.

I dont complain when I debate with others. But try to refrain from saying things like this.
I can go into the details, but I will leave it at this.
Peace.

Yeah, but it does not matter because their core tenets are the same.
Regardless, government knows how to deal with these issues and I leave it to them.
At the same time, I hope there are no more wars.

Actually, that was unwarranted on my part. Balochistan belongs to your state.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Yeah, but it does not matter because their core tenets are the same.
Regardless, government knows how to deal with these issues and I leave it to them.
At the same time, I hope there are no more wars.

I'm not that well educated on India-Pakistan relations to really be able to give a well educated opinion. What I do know is how Muslims have been demonized in India and the rest of the world. I also believe that in spite of our many disagreements, you argue in good faith.

 

[Reborn]

@notAfanboy I will be blunt. I don't like to engage much in those discussions which involves personal comments and premature conclusions about someone's life - if done in serious tone and not trolling.


In such cases, I simply choose to ignore (as much as I can) and that's the best choice - for me and definitely for the other person as well.


Have a great day.

 

[notAfanboy]

Actually, that was unwarranted on my part. Balochistan belongs to your state.

I understand, emotions run high, but history shows the 1971 conflict cost hundreds of thousands of lives in Bangladesh, some call it genocide. If similar events unfold again, especially in Balochistan, the Pakistani military would resist forcefully, and more lives could be lost. Such remarks lack empathy for that potential human cost. Just think about it, Bangladesh was 2204 km away, while Baloshistan is right next to us.

I'm not that well educated on India-Pakistan relations to really be able to give a well educated opinion. What I do know is how Muslims have been demonized in India and the rest of the world. I also believe that in spite of our many disagreements, you argue in good faith.

I will try to explain it later.

 

[Reborn]

I understand, emotions run high, but history shows the 1971 conflict cost hundreds of thousands of lives in Bangladesh, some call it genocide. If similar events unfold again, especially in Balochistan, the Pakistani military would resist forcefully, and more lives could be lost. Such remarks lack empathy for that potential human cost. Just think about it, Bangladesh was 2204 km away, while Baloshistan is right next to us.

I will try to explain it later.

As I said, it was an unwarranted comment because I know very well the dynamics involved in it.

It's your internal affairs to settle.

 

[notAfanboy]

@notAfanboy I will be blunt. I don't like to engage much in those discussions which involves personal comments and premature conclusions about someone's life - if done in serious tone and not trolling.


In such cases, I simply choose to ignore (as much as I can) and that's the best choice - for me and definitely for the other person as well.


Have a great day.

As I said, it was an unwarranted comment because I know very well the dynamics involved in it.

It's your internal affairs to settle.

Sure, have a great day.

 

[Roo]

No news

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I still remember when German media explained India's strange love for Hitler and Nazis as more of a curiosity and with ''they don't really know what happened because they're from a different continent and are being misled by the Nazi's use of the swastika because it's a positive symbol in their culture".

This is ngl a pretty racist statement

“Indians are too stupid to know Nazis are bad”

No bro, india has sent spaceships to the moon. Even poor Indians have access to the internet. Unless it’s some tribal dude from north sentinel island or something, if you ever see an Indian supporting Nazism, he’s probably just a fascist.

He is undeniably ignorant. But most fascists tend to be.
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And I agree. And more concerning is that BJP has mastered this tactic.

You may want to read this book by an Indian author Swati Chaturvedi in 2016:

I Am a Troll: Inside the Secret World of the BJP's Digital Army

Summary:

I Am a Troll: Inside the Secret World of the BJP's Digital Army by Swati Chaturvedi exposes the BJP's organized use of social media to manipulate public discourse. The book reveals how the party's IT cell orchestrates coordinated trolling campaigns, targeting critics with abuse and misinformation. Sadhavi Khosla, a former volunteer, provides insider testimony on directives to attack dissenters and trend specific hashtags. Chaturvedi highlights that Prime Minister Modi follows several abusive accounts, suggesting tacit endorsement. The book underscores the impact on democratic dialogue, where dissent is suppressed through digital intimidation. For her courageous reporting, Chaturvedi received the RSF Press Freedom Award in 2018.

In addition, check out European Disinfo Lab's report on Indian disinfo campaign:

Indian Chronicles: deep dive into a 15-year operation targeting the EU and UN to serve Indian interests


Summary:

The operation’s mission is to discredit nations in conflict with India in Asia, in particular Pakistan but also China to a lesser extent. Its long-term objective is:

• In India, to reinforce pro-Indian and anti-Pakistan (and anti-Chinese) feelings.
• Internationally, to consolidate the power and improve the perception of India, to damage the reputation of other countries and ultimately benefit from more support from international institutions such as the EU and the UN.

Also, do some research on:

How indian moderators influence content on Twitter/X

Summary:
Indian moderators hired by social media platforms like X (formerly Twitter) play a significant role in content moderation, impacting what users see and what is removed from the platform.
The problem is, X is outsourcing moderation from Indian cells (because they are cheap). And it has consequences; killing emerging trends that go against Indian narrative, modifying Grok responses, fooling fact checks, and so on.

More on this here:

https://www.techpolicy.press/how-pl...-escalating-harm-in-the-indiapakistan-crisis/


While it is a global problem, India is the epicenter of this issue.

Ready to debate further if you are willing to do so. 👍🏻

my family in india has had their brains rotted by BJP propaganda

Last time I went my grandmother was telling me about how the first president of India, Nehru, was actually a secret Muslim who hid his faith and pretended to be a Hindu in order to subvert India in favor of the Muslims.

This sounds like the type of shit you hear neo Nazis say about Jews.

 

[Reborn]

No news

I have a news for you. Wanna see? 😏

 

[Mathias]

The ice-cream CEO got busted by the cops because he sold watermelon taste

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/14/...er-arrested-rfk-jr-congressional-hearing-vrtc

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I just don’t see how anyone can see and hear about Israel bombing Palestinian schools and hospitals under the guise of rooting out the same terrorists they helped create and think they have the moral high ground, it drives me up the fucking wall…it’s a nuanced situation, and of course I want Jews to have a place to call their own, but we were nomads for centuries and that sliver of land is meaningful to multiple religions, so to act as though we’re the only ones who can lay claim is just asinine in my opinion.

I was just thinking about something
the Israeli government is actually retarded.

They have full control of Gaza’s borders and have far more wealth and power than Gaza.

They don’t need to bomb Gaza at all to destroy Hamas. Just leverage the blockade to create a civil war in Gaza and overthrow Hamas. Restrict the import of food and water to ensure that only the families that ally with the Israeli government are given resources.

You can even offer Israeli citizenship and posh property in Israel proper to the leaders of this faction to ensure they’re always loyal to Israel.

But if you drop bombs in crowded neighborhoods and destroy entire cities, you are setting yourself up as the greater of two evils. Which is why not only does Hamas have support in Gaza and the West Bank, it has some degree of support globally as well.
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I think Netanyahu just kills people because it benefits him. It doesn’t benefit the Israeli people and it sure as fuck doesn’t benefit Palestinians.

but it satiates the extremists, who are very politically active

I also haven’t looked into it too much but i wouldn’t be surprised if the American military industrial complex lobbies in Israel against actions that could lead to peace, as war is profitable to them.

 

[AL sama]

I was just thinking about something
the Israeli government is actually retarded.

They have full control of Gaza’s borders and have far more wealth and power than Gaza.

They don’t need to bomb Gaza at all to destroy Hamas. Just leverage the blockade to create a civil war in Gaza and overthrow Hamas. Restrict the import of food and water to ensure that only the families that ally with the Israeli government are given resources.

You can even offer Israeli citizenship and posh property in Israel proper to the leaders of this faction to ensure they’re always loyal to Israel.

But if you drop bombs in crowded neighborhoods and destroy entire cities, you are setting yourself up as the greater of two evils. Which is why not only does Hamas have support in Gaza and the West Bank, it has some degree of support globally as well.
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I think Netanyahu just kills people because it benefits him. It doesn’t benefit the Israeli people and it sure as fuck doesn’t benefit Palestinians.

but it satiates the extremists, who are very politically active

I also haven’t looked into it too much but i wouldn’t be surprised if the American military industrial complex lobbies in Israel against actions that could lead to peace, as war is profitable to them.

I don't think I ever said anything to you before but like seriously man you shouldn't talk about this matter

even if your intentions are good, you're so all over the place that you appear as a biased person no matter what you say

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I don't think I ever said anything to you before but like seriously man you shouldn't talk about this matter

even if your intentions are good, you're so all over the place that you appear as a biased person no matter what you say

I mean I am biased. But I do try to understand things from multiple perspectives

I suppose the internet is the one place I can talk about these things with no real consequence. Especially on a politics thread on a super niche site like this.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

It seems some Democrat personalities are posting images with the numbers 8647, which supposedly mean to kill Trump.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Do you remember Tejas? He is that kind of guy.

Is this a rhetorical question? I loved to bait this guy. It's so damn easy to trigger those ultranationalist types, they are the same in every country.
And it's still possible he was just an...

internet troll

He's like a low key Tejas.

There has to be a reason the mods allowed him to remain unbanned for so long.

This is ngl a pretty racist statement

“Indians are too stupid to know Nazis are bad”

Read my post again genius. This is what the German media said. Not my opinion.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Read my post again genius. This is what the German media said. Not my opinion.

I know. I was saying the German media is being racist by holding Indians to a lower standard

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I know. I was saying the German media is being racist by holding Indians to a lower standard

This kind of racism is quite widespread actually. Incl. in left circles

 

[NAMELESS]

Update on Brazil: Recently, Trump sent a comitive to Brazil to discuss public security. They have informed the Brazilian government that CV and PCC(two main narcotics groups) are now considered terrorists groups. A big shot gang leader was already killed in Rio using intel provided by American intelligence agency. Trump already did more for Brazil in a few months than these past leftie regimes in over 20 years. Things look exciting now.

 

[Reborn]

I know. I was saying the German media is being racist by holding Indians to a lower standard

Michelle Obama once said, “When they go low, we go high.”

Racist comments are rooted in ignorance, prejudice, and insecurity—not in fact, logic, or truth.

Giving them importance only empowers such voices. When someone makes a racist remark, it reveals more about their own character than the person they target. It is not an informed opinion; it is a reflection of narrow-minded thinking.

Engaging emotionally or trying to justify oneself in response only distracts us from what truly matters: self-growth and self-worth.

This doesn't mean racism as a social issue should be ignored—it must be confronted, and challenged.

But racist remarks in themselves? They don't matter. They don’t define us.

India is on track to become the world’s fourth-largest economy by the end of 2025, and the benefits are gradually reaching more people - slowly but definitely.

This progress, and development—this is what truly matters to us - not what others think.