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Rather "than being right wing" I think a better term is being "reactionnary". I agree with everything here btw.
Reactionnarism is - by defaut - a set of biases that we all have. So, when someone becomes a dictator on the left (Staline for ex), he applies reactionnary values (the control of sciences, repressive measures against the people, nationalism etc).
On the left, ALL the big debates arise because some people depict signs of reactionnarism and radicalization in said reactionnarism. For ex, at the moment we have a debate in France about the absence of anticolonial praxis in people who call themselves anticolonial. Those people are currently orbiting around a group who promotes a new vision of nationalism, which is, contradictory with any anticolonial and anti imperialist praxis. And the more they grow, the more radical they become and one day, this group will end up splitting from the left to star merging with the right and more reactionnary side. That's if we do nothing about it..
True, but it set you on a pass to rightism.
If you don't understand the importance of anti-capitalism, you can try to call yourself anything you want, you won't be consider a coherent leftist by the left. (some are trying, but they are ridiculized)
That's a genuine question.
What was leftist about her ? You know her much more than I do.
Reactionnarism is - by defaut - a set of biases that we all have. So, when someone becomes a dictator on the left (Staline for ex), he applies reactionnary values (the control of sciences, repressive measures against the people, nationalism etc).
On the left, ALL the big debates arise because some people depict signs of reactionnarism and radicalization in said reactionnarism. For ex, at the moment we have a debate in France about the absence of anticolonial praxis in people who call themselves anticolonial. Those people are currently orbiting around a group who promotes a new vision of nationalism, which is, contradictory with any anticolonial and anti imperialist praxis. And the more they grow, the more radical they become and one day, this group will end up splitting from the left to star merging with the right and more reactionnary side. That's if we do nothing about it..
True, but it set you on a pass to rightism.
If you don't understand the importance of anti-capitalism, you can try to call yourself anything you want, you won't be consider a coherent leftist by the left. (some are trying, but they are ridiculized)
That's a genuine question.
What was leftist about her ? You know her much more than I do.
You serously think that poor people commit more crime because they think commiting crime is cool ?
Poor people thinking it is cool to commit crimes it is already your so called social construction, material of existence or whatever term you or Marx or any shitty intellectual from the past made up. You just want to be against it so you can use your term and sound smart or you are so dumb that you can't understand your own term.
A man who has housing, heat food, care on the table doesn't have to steal (why you said steel? typo?) but may do anyway. Or are you claiming that only poor people are stealers? And then you want to say that I contradict myself?
Your metaphor literally sucks. A better metaphor would be "I have a disfunctionnal machine that needs to replace a single, cheap part in order to proper work. But the worker enraged with how the machine is working hits it and damaged even more. Now the machine instead of a single cheap part to fix has 2 single cheap parts to fix it." In this case yes we had a machine not working fully well but still working and the worker made it worse. The machine still needs to be fixed but the worker is to blame for making it worse.
Using aggression as a replacement for a counter arugment but whatever.
You can't run a dictatorship without strong far right policy. Eliminating political opposition, militarism, restrictions of rights and feeedoms, suppression of those with opposing viewpoints, etc.. You can have left wing ideology, but but to bring that ideology to life through force, left wing dictators use all the typical far right methods.
Its like saying "I believe in equality for all, but this minority group shouldn't be in my country so lets kick them out."
You can't run a dictatorship without strong far right policy. Eliminating political opposition, militarism, restrictions of rights and feeedoms, suppression of those with opposing viewpoints, etc.. You can have left wing ideology, but but to bring that ideology to life through force, left wing dictators use all the typical far right methods.
Its like saying "I believe in equality for all, but this minority group shouldn't be in my country so lets kick them out."
I AM a poor person Einstein.
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@Mathias is there anyway to deal with that without being irrespectful ?
I'm searching... but I have nothing
I do have reactionnary biases. It's a fact! I can't erease a life time of confusion and low key reactionnarism with the snap of a finger.
But you have seen very little of that on this forum from me. Or Perhaps... hm.. I will grant you that when I arrived, I was still a liberal. My solutions where individualistic. Very idealistic. My radicalization toward materialism is very recent. Maybe 2 years at best. So yeah.. in a sense, I depicted reactionnarism that way.
That's why I stopped trying to call-out and report and instead tried to find way to change the system of the forum. I'm sure even you or Van noticed that shift.
omfg
@Mathias is there anyway to deal with that without being irrespectful ?
I'm searching... but I have nothing
I do have reactionnary biases. It's a fact! I can't erease a life time of confusion and low key reactionnarism with the snap of a finger.
But you have seen very little of that on this forum from me. Or Perhaps... hm.. I will grant you that when I arrived, I was still a liberal. My solutions where individualistic. Very idealistic. My radicalization toward materialism is very recent. Maybe 2 years at best. So yeah.. in a sense, I depicted reactionnarism that way.
That's why I stopped trying to call-out and report and instead tried to find way to change the system of the forum. I'm sure even you or Van noticed that shift.
The joke is on you. Authoritarianism has existed way before the concept of left wing x right wing was even a thing. But go on about how abuses of powers are exclusive to the right wing, you will have to deal with C4N's creamy pants if this goes on lmfao
