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Left right was made in the French Revolution
It ONLY made sense there, trying to split all political options into two zones is dumb
*Lebanon
Practically everything about Greek democracy started there, Greece was just lucky it was protected from European tribes while Lebanon had to deal with Iraq and Egypt's empire bullshit
It ONLY made sense there, trying to split all political options into two zones is dumb
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*Lebanon
Practically everything about Greek democracy started there, Greece was just lucky it was protected from European tribes while Lebanon had to deal with Iraq and Egypt's empire bullshit
Yes and no. Left and right concept are indeed nomination of the "modern age" and the rise of capitalism, but the reality of those concept is as old as human language itself.
A Little exemple :
Upper paleolithic : The food is getting scarse in the current settlement of this hunting gathering group. A woman is sick and people are getting very nervous and stressed. The hunting group finally came back with a big piece of meat. They (the hunters) agreed to share the meat and give a bigger portion to the weak woman. But the rest of the group (that remained to work on the camp) does not agree and start yelling.
As you can see here, with a simple conflict, we have the left/right (progressive/reactionnary) dichotomy at work. The group who hunted the beast decided to share food with equity, but the group who stayed back and is hungry as fuck wanted the same size, thus ignoring the needs of the weak one in the group.
You described DEI, which is a liberal thing, but not leftism. What do you mean by "leftism" ?
Yeah... but for some reason, I have this feeling that there is a way for them to understand.
That's why I came back, I can't give up that feeling. I need to know that there is something that can be done to politicize them.
It's my idealistic side..
A Little exemple :
Upper paleolithic : The food is getting scarse in the current settlement of this hunting gathering group. A woman is sick and people are getting very nervous and stressed. The hunting group finally came back with a big piece of meat. They (the hunters) agreed to share the meat and give a bigger portion to the weak woman. But the rest of the group (that remained to work on the camp) does not agree and start yelling.
As you can see here, with a simple conflict, we have the left/right (progressive/reactionnary) dichotomy at work. The group who hunted the beast decided to share food with equity, but the group who stayed back and is hungry as fuck wanted the same size, thus ignoring the needs of the weak one in the group.
You described DEI, which is a liberal thing, but not leftism. What do you mean by "leftism" ?
Yeah... but for some reason, I have this feeling that there is a way for them to understand.
That's why I came back, I can't give up that feeling. I need to know that there is something that can be done to politicize them.
It's my idealistic side..
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/03/sen...-stake-in-intel-a-step-towards-socialism.html
Another libertarian fundamentally misunderstanding their own views…if this genius thinks the government purchasing a stake in a publicly traded company is socialism, he’s even dumber than the AI that Herrera has gladly given himself over to
Another libertarian fundamentally misunderstanding their own views…if this genius thinks the government purchasing a stake in a publicly traded company is socialism, he’s even dumber than the AI that Herrera has gladly given himself over to
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/03/sen...-stake-in-intel-a-step-towards-socialism.html
Another libertarian fundamentally misunderstanding their own views…if this genius thinks the government purchasing a stake in a publicly traded company is socialism, he’s even dumber than the AI that Herrera has gladly given himself over to
Another libertarian fundamentally misunderstanding their own views…if this genius thinks the government purchasing a stake in a publicly traded company is socialism, he’s even dumber than the AI that Herrera has gladly given himself over to
Seems to me like she was pro business and pro capitalist.
At best center left and liberal like Macron at the beginning, which - like Macron - is just the far right disguised as rationnality.
When you shoot on protesters, it's not leftism. lol
The notion that methods such as suppressing opposition or curbing rights makes one right winger is wrong as well.
These are just tools which is adopted by any authoritarian regardless of ideology. These aren't hallmark of any ideology but hallmark of all authoritarians.
What separates left wing and right wing dictators are the justification they give to use these methods and their goal.
These are just tools which is adopted by any authoritarian regardless of ideology. These aren't hallmark of any ideology but hallmark of all authoritarians.
What separates left wing and right wing dictators are the justification they give to use these methods and their goal.
Yes but even ancient Rome had social and political demands from the people that could be defined with left and right eyes too.
You tried making two points without developing the first one and your second point is a question.
India is democratic despite having caste system. Which is core to feudalism.
The US and Athens ruled with slavery.
But to make it short, there has always been friction between people who wanted to live freely and in a more fair way.
And I'm not playing the game where we answer each other's question with questions lmao.
Plato's dialogues with Socrates were all made up. You can't just randomly pick someone on the opposite side and convert them somehow.
You tried making two points without developing the first one and your second point is a question.
India is democratic despite having caste system. Which is core to feudalism.
The US and Athens ruled with slavery.
But to make it short, there has always been friction between people who wanted to live freely and in a more fair way.
And I'm not playing the game where we answer each other's question with questions lmao.
Plato's dialogues with Socrates were all made up. You can't just randomly pick someone on the opposite side and convert them somehow.
