https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/03/sen...-stake-in-intel-a-step-towards-socialism.html
Another libertarian fundamentally misunderstanding their own views…if this genius thinks the government purchasing a stake in a publicly traded company is socialism, he’s even dumber than the AI that Herrera has gladly given himself over to :few:
Funny.. Intel is on the list of BDS


man look it up I m busy
Seems to me like she was pro business and pro capitalist.
At best center left and liberal like Macron at the beginning, which - like Macron - is just the far right disguised as rationnality.

When you shoot on protesters, it's not leftism. lol
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
The notion that methods such as suppressing opposition or curbing rights makes one right winger is wrong as well.


These are just tools which is adopted by any authoritarian regardless of ideology. These aren't hallmark of any ideology but hallmark of all authoritarians.


What separates left wing and right wing dictators are the justification they give to use these methods and their goal.
 
Left right was made in the French Revolution
Yes but even ancient Rome had social and political demands from the people that could be defined with left and right eyes too.


1) there is a huge gap between what they understood about democracy and what we understand
2) so are you telling me there was democracy in feudalism??
You tried making two points without developing the first one and your second point is a question.

India is democratic despite having caste system. Which is core to feudalism.

The US and Athens ruled with slavery.

But to make it short, there has always been friction between people who wanted to live freely and in a more fair way.

And I'm not playing the game where we answer each other's question with questions lmao.

Yeah... but for some reason, I have this feeling that there is a way for them to understand.

That's why I came back, I can't give up that feeling. I need to know that there is something that can be done to politicize them.

It's my idealistic side..
Plato's dialogues with Socrates were all made up. You can't just randomly pick someone on the opposite side and convert them somehow.
 
What separates left wing and right wing dictators are the justification they give to use these methods and their goal.
No. It's the methods mate.

Dictatorship is possible while keeping leftist (kinda) values > Dictatorship of the proletariat. In that case, the power is in the hand of the state and people. But with people like Staline, it's not leftism, it's autoritarianism, a fundamental right wing value.

But frankly, I've never liked these concept of "Right" and "Left". This division assimilate the conflicts between leftists and rightists as relativistic political battle. As if both party were right in their own relative plan and there were no right or wrong way to make politics.

In reality. If people are rightists, they are most likely not ethical politically.

There is no relativity here, there is a right side with bad nuances and a completely wrong side who is acting in politics in contrary to ethics and the material reality of the world.


Plato's dialogues with Socrates were all made up. You can't just randomly pick someone on the opposite side and convert them somehow.
Yes. I know. I know it's probably impossible... BUT ... I can't help but trying. It's like a physical need. If I managed to understand leftism (probably because my material conditions of existence changed), I believe that there is a logical way to trigger the empathy of people to make them understand leftism as well.

I can't help it. I have to try everything.


Men, I had to google it but this is straight up confession :snoopy:
:gokulaugh:
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

warmth of the sun and the cool of the shade
Men, I had to google it but this is straight up confession :snoopy:

They either fall now or America is screwed to the bone for good.

The mofo can't even say "there is top classified information about our agents that cannot be shared with the public" because it's a straight up pedophile paper and not terrorist one for once :shame:
Anyone pretending the Trump Administration isn't complicit with this international child sex trafficking ring is ignoring reality to the extent, that they're either:

A: Brainwashed conspiracy theorists that believe official narratives over facts and victims.
B: Complicit/supportive of the crimes.

I think having the FBI redact all this information in the first place is what will fully ruin the administration.

Trump has treated the FBI like MOLDY HORSE TURDS for a decade, there's no way disgruntled Agents aren't leaking shit out of anger. Imagine how many FBI Agents went into the organization because they actually believed in the US Government, and knew someone who had their lives destroyed by sexual assault?

MAGA terrorism is mega terrorism. A gang of rich child rapists has taken over the US and is using the US government to destroy any country/group/individual willing to stand up to their disgusting lies and actions, through economic sanctions, kidnapping, and bribery/blackmail.

The USA is a Rogue State, just like Israel, run by people who have no respect for their country's own laws. We are BEYOND compromised.

We should have listened to the people who survived the Holocaust, they've been warning EVERYONE FOR YEARS, DAMN IT.
 
I AM a poor person Einstein.

omfg

I really doubt it giving your lack of comprehension of how poor people are.

But you have seen very little of that on this forum from me. Or Perhaps... hm.. I will grant you that when I arrived, I was still a liberal. My solutions where individualistic. Very idealistic. My radicalization toward materialism is very recent. Maybe 2 years at best. So yeah.. in a sense, I depicted reactionnarism that way.
I challenge you making an argument without using any word with "ism" at the end
:suresure:
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Anyone pretending the Trump Administration isn't complicit with this international child sex trafficking ring is ignoring reality to the extent, that they're either:

A: Brainwashed conspiracy theorists that believe official narratives over facts and victims.
B: Complicit/supportive of the crimes.

I think having the FBI redact all this information in the first place is what will fully ruin the administration.

Trump has treated the FBI like MOLDY HORSE TURDS for a decade, there's no way disgruntled Agents aren't leaking shit out of anger. Imagine how many FBI Agents went into the organization because they actually believed in the US Government, and knew someone who had their lives destroyed by sexual assault?

MAGA terrorism is mega terrorism. A gang of rich child rapists has taken over the US and is using the US government to destroy any country/group/individual willing to stand up to their disgusting lies and actions, through economic sanctions, kidnapping, and bribery/blackmail.

The USA is a Rogue State, just like Israel, run by people who have no respect for their country's own laws. We are BEYOND compromised.

We should have listened to the people who survived the Holocaust, they've been warning EVERYONE FOR YEARS, DAMN IT.
Epstein files
Excessive ICE actions
That ugly Bill
Inflation

All of these can be sorted out


But the geopolitical damage Trump is causing is so significant in long run that it will take decades of efforts from America to reshape it again.

Today, Finnish President indirectly targeted Trump and said to have more dignified approach towards Global South or we will lose.

NATO - The closest Allies of USA have popular sentiments running that America can't be trusted with massive hate for Trump.

De-dollarisation is speeding up as well.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
The notion that methods such as suppressing opposition or curbing rights makes one right winger is wrong as well.


These are just tools which is adopted by any authoritarian regardless of ideology. These aren't hallmark of any ideology but hallmark of all authoritarians.


What separates left wing and right wing dictators are the justification they give to use these methods and their goal.
This made me notice the domino effect I was doing. Militarism for example is a concept found in left and right, but is currently a right wing concept in modern America as the miliary and nationalism is American tradition, therefore more right wing ideologically.
 
I'm guessing he's call you a silver-spoon fed type.
Yeah, I think that's what he means. The lack of empathy in this guy is stellar.


This made me notice the domino effect I was doing. Militarism for example is a concept found in left and right, but is currently a right wing concept in modern America as the miliary and nationalism is American tradition, therefore more right wing ideologically.
And it's about to become a huge leftist concept as well if things escalate even more.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
So basically the current day political climate in America, and the fact that the most famous authoritarian(Hitler) was right wing, made me associate dictatorships with right wing ideology in the heat of the moment. Pretty much used Amercian standards to overlook words by defintion. The shame.
 
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