yeah its not a secret that the US has its issues with christian nationalists. Im not trying to say that charlie didnt spread dangerous rhetoric, he definitely did. still doesnt make all of his opinions wrong or crazy.
I think it’s crazy for someone actively getting millions to groom our youth on their phones to say anyone else is “the” sword on America’s throat. And I think most Muslims in America aren’t worse than most Christian’s

And I think if we go after Islam, we gotta go after Christianity too. Case in point: Charlie Kirk. Who more effectively pushed our youth towards a racial supremacist anti woman view than the Christian right and their moneyed interests in taking our kids
 
I'm just saying that the ones who do are misguided, as hatred can only ever breed more hatred.
No, they are not missguided, they are pressured by a system of domination that prevent's them from having anything other than resentment in their heart.

Hatred can indeed only breed hatred, but to start being lovefull, one needs the material condition of existence that will allow them to distances themselves for the system that is destroying them.

This is where Fisher Tiger and Otohime are imporatant. But not all black or oppressed people have the luck to live with a fisher Tiger that is allowing them to elevate their material condition of existence.

If I was in my situation without the social and cultural capital that I have now (and that I aquired because I was born in the middle class) that is allowing me to elevate my thinking and my condition, I would be in the streets hating on rich and valid people right now, not talking to you.

You can't ask oppressed people to be nice when they are being bullied into dehumanization.
 
yeah its not a secret that the US has its issues with christian nationalists. Im not trying to say that charlie didnt spread dangerous rhetoric, he definitely did. still doesnt make all of his opinions wrong or crazy.

edit: an important note maybe that i dont necessarily think he did that shit to take womens rights away, its just that he was passionate about his religion and furthering the agenda of his religion and probably thought this was the best for women. Still very troubling, but i like to operate on Hanlons razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Shut the fuck up, disingenuous ass. “Nooo he was just passionate about his religion” lmfao while arguing anti woman religion is the sword on our nations throat

Goodbye
 
What is “actually celebrating” it feels extremely arbitrary if you’re ok with that other shit

Just like we thought crimes now, if you dare feel any gladness that your daughter won’t be groomed by Charlie Kirk you are “highly insane?”
ok with what other shit? where does that come from now?
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Shut the fuck up, disingenuous ass. “Nooo he was just passionate about his religion” lmfao while arguing anti woman religion is the sword on our nations throat

Goodbye
Welp, if at any point you arent too partisan to have an actual conversation, hit me up.
 
And I think if we go after Islam, we gotta go after Christianity too. Case in point: Charlie Kirk. Who more effectively pushed our youth towards a racial supremacist anti woman view than the Christian right and their moneyed interests in taking our kids
sure, i dont like christianity and its effects on society either.

maybe if we could just talk instead of jumping to conclusions that'd be great.
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If you’re ok with mocking then the arbitrary “but the thing that allows me to get mad is not ok!” Is le arbitrary.
Charlie dying obviously doesnt mean no one should be allowed to mock him or his views wtf?

thats a lot of difference to celebrating his death though.
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That's very rarely the case especially given how many black people, including me, have no hatred in their hearts for (most) white people anyway.
i only hate people who dont think bigfoot is real :kuzanshut:
 
sure, i dont like christianity and its effects on society either.

maybe if we could just talk instead of jumping to conclusions that'd be great.
You “don’t like” Christianity, but you are willing to pretend Charlie Kirk wasn’t a moneyed groomer and acted in good faith because of it, where if he was Muslim you would raise alarm bells. No, he wasn’t just passionate about god, he was a pedophile.
 
That's very rarely the case especially given how many black people, including me, have no hatred in their hearts for (most) white people anyway.
This shows that you need to look more at sociological facts. It's not only the case, but it's a GENERAL case.

No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER escape whiteness (and it's seems like I thought in your case that it is interiorized whiteness which reassures me since I feared I was talking to a white wall) unless a new society is build without capitalism, and other domination systems.

Again, it is not because you don't face oppression (you do, you just have a status that allows you to ignore it, it seems) that other don't face it.
 
This shows that you need to look more at sociological facts. It's not only the case, but it's a GENERAL case.

No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER escape whiteness (and it's seems like I thought in your case that it is interiorized whiteness which reassures me since I feared I was talking to a white wall) unless a new society is build without capitalism, and other domination systems.

Again, it is not because you don't face oppression (you do, you just have a status that allows you to ignore it, it seems) that other don't face it.
My status that allows me to ignore it is called basic emotional intelligence and the ability to see past a few bad apples
 
My status that allows me to ignore it is called basic emotional intelligence and the ability to see past a few bad apples
No. It's called "having good enough material conditions of existence"

If you were to be controlled every week of your life by the police because you are black in a poor neighborhood, you would also have only massive resentment in your mind.

Trust me on that.
 
No "not sure buddy". Go see for your self. Here are a few prompt, it will be much easier than to show you random website:

"Please, vulgarize to me the sociologic concept of WHITENESS based on leftist materialist thinking, with sources please"
"Please, explain the concept of whitesupremacy from a materialist and leftist point of view"
"Please, based on sociological work and other social studies (like Fanon for ex), explain to me why racialized people will sometimes seek the approval of whiteness through the attacks on other racialized people"
"Please, explain to me the basic liberal concept of intersectionnality, then explain it to me through the materialist thinking"


I swear, if you do that. I will start to rethink what I say about your leftism.


Yup. We all have that potential.

I just need to find a way to virtualize the right material condition of existence to push them to reconsider their relationship with reactionnarism
 

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I Can Go Lower
Charlie Kirk isn't really Christian but protestants here will get on my ass about Christianity having any definition because that's "popist" or whatever
His beliefs hardly even matter anymore, a lot of mainstream Christians of all denominations are willing to make him a martyr for convenience’s sake. Hell, look no further than all the evangelical con men who have spent the last decade worshipping the orange cow as though he’s the Second Coming, and they don’t seem to see an issue with the contradiction…
 
I swear, if you do that. I will start to rethink what I say about your leftism.
I mean this when I say it.
I don't care what you think about "my leftism". I don't care one bit.
If someone told me to care about it or they'd blow my shit off with a shotgun, well, there would be a whole lot to clean up.
At the end of the day you don't get to dictate whether or not I'm a leftist. It's not for you to say.
 
You “don’t like” Christianity, but you are willing to pretend Charlie Kirk wasn’t a moneyed groomer and acted in good faith because of it, where if he was Muslim you would raise alarm bells. No, he wasn’t just passionate about god, he was a pedophile.
i mean, extreme muslims are also passionate about their religion and probably think they are doing the right thing though?

sometimes things arent mutually exclusive my guy.
 
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