Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jew D. Boy]

Conservatives may be terrible for the economy, but at least they’re also incredibly cruel/slanderous on a social level and wholly unwilling to pass legislation that doesn’t ruin as many lives as possible

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Yeah, but BEFORE you trust a sources, how do you make sure you can trust them?

Let's say I gave you a scientific paper. What will make you trust it or not?

You either go there and check for yourself or you trust dude

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

LOL, pop off, lady

Who wants to bet these American Citizens will get public funerals like the guy who supported public child murder?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I also have multiple bridges to Russia I'm selling, better buy fast! Each Bridge to Russia comes with one free TrumpCoin, oh yeahhhhhhhhh

 

[Logiko]

I have and we've been over this before

It will change when you will think about others.

You either go there and check for yourself or you trust dude

So you have no method to verify the veracity of a source ?

 

[Blax Blah]

Conservatives may be terrible for the economy, but at least they’re also incredibly cruel/slanderous on a social level and wholly unwilling to pass legislation that doesn’t ruin as many lives as possible

Imagine what Bernie Sanders would have done

 

[HerreraIsBack]

So you have no method to verify the veracity of a source ?

Check yourself is the only one. As usual you have no understanding on how the world really works

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

You know, the "Won't someone think of the children!?!" people always infuriated me, and now I just straight up despise them.

Congrats, we have a President that always thinks of the Children.

Great job. They never said "think about the children's safety" or "think about the children's lives".

"Think of the children" makes a LOT more sense when you consider the personal lifestyles the people stating that phrase participate in.

They "think of the children" in their sex fantasies, while flying out to the island.

They should start thinking about prison.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Imagine what Bernie Sanders would have done

He’s already the greatest president we never had, so yeah, I’m sure he would have put the Democrats even further in the lead even though he’s an independent socialist (and they would have fought him all the way, probably more than they’ve ever pushed back on Donnie’s destructive mismanagement)

 

[Logiko]

BTW. Here is something EVERY ONE HERE needs to see ASAP (aside from Hererra, Ravager and Nameless and their reactionnary friends)

I'm not joking. If you consider yourself a leftist or a liberal progressive or centrist, this NEEDS to be seen right now!

THIS IS NOT OPTIONNAL

Check yourself is the only one. As usual you have no understanding on how the world really works

Yes, but what if you don't know anything about the subject? How do you make sure it's true if you can't verify yourself?
(science for ex) ?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

One of the most insane things about the Kirk shooting to me is how much the Right is celebrating it.

I used to think the Right wouldn't celebrate the death of their own, but, I was wrong (again? I can't believe it...)

Most of the Left are sad/torn up about this, realizing the vitriol/hatred it's causing. Lots of joking/mocking posts, but, yeah, the dude went out of his way to antagonize families who's children died in shootings and bombings, there was going to be some blowback when a guy who said school shootings are necessary died in a school shooting.

The Right? Even the guy's wife is using Charlie Kirk's corpse for agenda grandstanding.

They're celebrating this man's death, because they view it as an excuse to attack the people on the left they don't like... while ignoring the supposed shooter is born and raised MAGA.

They turned Charlie Kirk's Memorial service into a MAGA political rally.

It's so gross.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Yes, but what if you don't know anything about the subject? How do you make sure it's true if you can't verify yourself?
(science for ex) ?

You trust

 

[Logiko]

You trust

So you have no other methods than trusting something or checking with your own experience?

Let's say I give you this article which is a vulgarization of a concept used in social science:

https://www.simplypsychology.org/cultural-capital-theory-of-pierre-bourdieu.html

How do you make sure you can trust it ot not ?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

So you have no other methods than trusting something or checking with your own experience?

This is how the world works

How do you make sure you can trust it ot not ?

I check other sources and decide myself it it is trustable or not.

 

[Mathias]

BTW. Here is something EVERY ONE HERE needs to see ASAP (aside from Hererra, Ravager and Nameless and their reactionnary friends)

I'm not joking. If you consider yourself a leftist or a liberal progressive or centrist, this NEEDS to be seen right now!

THIS IS NOT OPTIONNAL

Your lord commander just gave you an ordaaaaaaa

 

[Zenos7]

when a guy who said school shootings are necessary

More like "some gun deaths are worth to keep the second amendment around" iirc

 

[Logiko]

This is how the world works

No. That's how I became a conspiracy theorist lol

I check other sources and decide myself it it is trustable or not.

Ok. Then can you tell me if you trust this one?
Here is the source again:

https://www.simplypsychology.org/cultural-capital-theory-of-pierre-bourdieu.html

Your lord commander just gave you an ordaaaaaaa

For the Revolution

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

More like "some gun deaths are worth to keep the second amendment around" iirc

I do not understand if people like CoC or C4N understand how much lying undermines their argument.
They embellish reality like that statement, which is per se controversial, and make a mockery of themselves automatically depicting their cause worse.
I discovered kirk 3 days ago and it just looks like an average right wing spokeperson, repeating church phrases and semi-liberal stuff like the second amendment, (I admit I don't follow much american politcs as I despise them, as it's an inane circus where 2 partisan play at controlled opposition to serve the same causes). He was simply doing propaganda for his party, a messanger for a fake party that represents bombing the middle east/south america and exploiting what they can. @Jew D. Boy Do you honestly believe democrats would be better and not a third part?

 

[Zenos7]

I do not understand if people like CoC or C4N understand how much lying undermines their argument.

eh im careful with accusations of lying. sometimes peeps are just wrong.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I do not understand if people like CoC or C4N understand how much lying undermines their argument.
They embellish reality like that statement, which is per se controversial, and make a mockery of themselves automatically depicting their cause worse.
I discovered kirk 3 days ago and it just looks like an average right wing spokeperson, repeating church phrases and semi-liberal stuff like the second amendment, (I admit I don't follow much american politcs as I despise them, as it's an inane circus where 2 partisan play at controlled opposition to serve the same causes). He was simply doing propaganda for his party, a messanger for a fake party that represents bombing the middle east/south america and exploiting what they can. @Jew D. Boy Do you honestly believe democrats would be better and not a third part?

I don’t feel for one second that the Democratic party has either the power nor the inclination to defend Americans against the increasingly authoritarian actions committed by Republicans, and I’m very famously on record as a leftist/socialist, so yeah, gimme the third party if it’s actually going to make a difference…they haven’t historically, but that was true when it was business as usual, we’re in a much different ballgame now. For their many, MANY flaws, the conservative propaganda machine is far more effective than the liberal playbook, and they’re superior at appealing to the fringes of their base and getting them riled up enough to keep winning their votes; until the old guard dies off and new voices can be heard, Democrats will continue being spineless and complicit in what the monsters across the aisle want to do. The only option that might possibly work, then, is starting a third party and organizing well enough so the disenfranchised on other parts of the political spectrum are drawn to their ideology. I’m not optimistic about it (or fucking anything else these days), but if it was ever gonna work out that way, it would be this period of history.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I don’t feel for one second that the Democratic party has either the power nor the inclination to defend Americans against the increasingly authoritarian actions committed by Republicans, and I’m very famously on record as a leftist/socialist, so yeah, gimme the third party if it’s actually going to make a difference…they haven’t historically, but that was true when it was business as usual, we’re in a much different ballgame now. For their many, MANY flaws, the conservative propaganda machine is far more effective than the liberal playbook, and they’re superior at appealing to the fringes of their base and getting them riled up enough to keep winning their votes; until the old guard dies off and new voices can be heard, Democrats will continue being spineless and complicit in what the monsters across the aisle want to do. The only option that might possibly work, then, is starting a third party and organizing well enough so the disenfranchised on other parts of the political spectrum are drawn to their ideology. I’m not optimistic about it (or fucking anything else these days), but if it was ever gonna work out that way, it would be this period of history.

I believe that with the Biden move the democrat have shown their card.
They put forward a fake candidate and then when proven that he was senile, poor fucking man was thrown under the bus, to put unelegible number 2.
I feel the dems never wanted to win in the first place, because they could not solve the Gaza situation, could not solve the Ukraine one and it was better to just pass the ball. In the end, this said, they vote the same way on Israel, on bombing civilians, on lobbying. I believe that us plays controlled opposition, and that's why people like Bernie or moderates in the right will NEVER win.