I keep telling you guyz and girlz..
In this thread I'm the ONLY simili-materialist (at least in my knowledge). I'm not thinking with ideas, but with material realities. (which is the reason why I'm a pain in the ass for everyone, even leftists)
Here, it's simple socio-political logic, this is not only possible but inevitable.
The reasons people enter in conflict are material NOT ideological. You know, the very concept that I keep bringing up. This means poverty, this means institutionnal security, this means political safety etc. There is absolutely NO reasons for conflict to arise on a big scale if a equitable state is created. In fact, it can even be a major advancement for the state of the entire world and create a snowball effect.
Again, as I said, you are reasonning with ideas, and not material realities.
Hatred has no place in a world where people can live is the right material conditions of existence, we are a social specie by nature. As such hatred is not something that remains when people remain in good material conditions of existence.
Man has never been a wolf to man.
Palestinian will deal with Hamas as they see fit. You can have your vision just like I can explain to you that it's not up to us to think for the population of the global south.
Hamas is a resistance group. This is not an idea or a justification, this is a factual data. They are LEGITIMATE in their resistance against an oppressive an colonial state, just like the french resistance was legitimate in the resistance against Nazism or any other country against oppressive regime.
You better swallow that. Because if you refuse oppressed people to be legitimate in their resistance, we will have a problem.
The fact that a resistance group or a state do war crimes doesn't change their nature, it does not magically transform them into terrorist. That is the rethoric of the oppressor.
Let me give you a simple and very CLEAR exemple for you because I see that you are struggling here :
The rebels in Star Wars did something that Hamas would never be able to do in its ENTIRE existence. 2 MILLION people - from maintenance workers to army members - were active on the death star when it exploded because of Luke.
And yet, would you consider Luke as a terrorist ?
THis is a basic ethical test to make you understand the importance of contextual informations.
You and others here need to understand something very important. What you guy are doing in this thread has a name, it's call "morality". YOu are treating situations based on a moral point of view quasi universalistic.
But that's not how reality works. In reality, context matters.
Hamas is not fighting in the void, it's fighting an oppressive, colonizing and apartheid regime. As such they are legitimate in their action. The only problem is that a resistance is never like in movies, it's never clean, and many people go too far. Here they killed children and civilian and abducted children. Which is an ethical problem as children are never responsible and should be spared from anything. SO, they made a war crime on top of their action.
But tell that to people who lived under the threat of a shotgun, mass oppression and dehumanization all their lives... not that easy.
Context matter.
It's not up to me to consider Hamas as a possibility, it's for Palestinian to decide. I'm refusing to perpetuate the racist and imperialist thinking that I'm better equiped to judge the choices of global south's populations better than said populations themselves. And you should do the same.
I told you "banana" and you interpretated "Kiwi"
It's not for us to intervene in this. Unless said people are asking for DIRECT help. Stop your imperialist wired brain from thinking that you are better equiped for deciding the future of a people than said people.
They want dictature ? Let them have dictature. They want to end dictature? Let them fight their OWN battle and only intervene if they ASK YOU for help or if you see that they are in complete incapacity to ask you for help
That's basic respect that every human should learn to understand
I see that you have a Luffy picture. Maybe it's time for you to REALLY understand why he acts like he does and why he does NOT intervene in conflict unless people are DIRECTLY asking him for help or are showing to him direct evidences that they want help.
As an handicap person, this is one of the MAIN things that I wish people would understand. You are not saviors, your are not masters, so quit trying to impose your benevolence on people that have their OWN fight and OWN cross to bear. It's dehumanizing.
Do I believe Hamas is a danger for Palestinians? Yes.
Will I fight as a westerner for Hamas to go? No. It's not my fight. It's not my place. It's for Palestinians to decide.
BUT
Palestinian directly asked us to help them destroy the threat of their oppressor which is the colonial state of Israel. So I will do what I can to help them do just that. And you should do to. This is the ethical things to do.
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