Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

USA in a few years if Trump is not stopped:

You're saying someone can't be right wing or not-left but be anti-fascist

I'm saying that you can't be antifascist and be right wing. You can be against fascism if you are right wing, but it will hold absolutely no values.

Right wingers and liberals are a step for fascist to walk on and rise up.

Every teacher is a scientist.

And sure you are the only person in world without any biases.

Not necessarily.
And I'm full of biases.

I just know how to recognize them and I'm constantly trying to fight the bad ones. This is the nature of the gap between you and me

yeah but thats still not what antifa stands for

Antifa stands for antifascists.

Like I explained, antifascism and the movement itself is a spectrum. Sometimes violent, sometimes a bit less violent, sometimes educated sometimes completely dumb. Sometimes anarchist, sometimes communist. There are nuances.

If you try to fight fascism head-on and if you do it correctly, you are an antifa. But you can't be an antifa while being a rightist. It's kind of a nonsense.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Conspiracy, or not. Take what you will from this. Crazy drivel or not.

 

[RyoQ]

USA in a few years if Trump is not stopped:

in a few years we will have several million more illegals from Latin America and more legal migrants from India/China/Middle East on H1B

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you can't be antifascist and be right wing. You can be against fascism if you are right wing, but it will hold absolutely no values.

Aneurism

this still isn't the most autistic thing you've said, I think that credit goes to when you said truth =/= knowledge

 

[Reborn]

in a few years we will have several million more illegals from Latin America and more legal migrants from India/China/Middle East on H1B

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Aneurism

this still isn't the most autistic thing you've said, I think that credit goes to when you said truth =/= knowledge

What's the issue with having legal migrants under H1B?

 

[RyoQ]

What's the issue with having legal migrants under H1B?

You can feel free to debate whether it's an issue or not (it obviously is, the H1B should be eradicated) (legal migrats are a bigger issue here than illegal immigrants if you know whats going on)

point is Logiko is insane if he thinks the US will even remotely model something like an ethnofascist state like Nazi Germany in just a few years. It likely never will

 

[Reborn]

You can feel free to debate whether it's an issue or not (it obviously is, the H1B should be eradicated) (legal migrats are a bigger issue here than illegal immigrants if you know whats going on)

point is Logiko is insane if he thinks the US will even remotely model something like an ethnofascist state like Nazi Germany in just a few years. It likely never will

I didn't ask what Logiko said

I asked why H1B is an issue and needs to be done away with? Watch this short

https://youtube.com/shorts/huP_2xJLXZc?si=ii1Ts1ILSvUpQ5uR


H1B brings competition. And, you know what we do when there is competition? We raise our standards and competency to compete - not eradicate the competition.


They aren't taking your jobs. You are handing them over. Raise your standards if you care about it.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You can feel free to debate whether it's an issue or not (it obviously is, the H1B should be eradicated) (legal migrats are a bigger issue here than illegal immigrants if you know whats going on)

point is Logiko is insane if he thinks the US will even remotely model something like an ethnofascist state like Nazi Germany in just a few years. It likely never will

Not out of the realm of possibility. That's all I can say.
Low probability but it's still probable.

 

[RyoQ]

H1B brings competition. And, you know what we do when there is competition? We raise our standards and competency to compete - not eradicate the competition.


They aren't taking your jobs. You are handing them over. Raise your standards of you care about it

aren't you from Europe

anyways, no need to say "they" and be ambiguous, we know who they're indian

and that the majority are towards positions that are entry lvl & junior level jobs

vast majority don't have advanced degrees coming in either

lolllllll

But don't worry there is no abuse going on, Americans just lack credentials for junior and entry lvl positions in tech and they just need to work harder

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Not out of the realm of possibility. That's all I can say.
Low probability but it's still probable.

No, not possible. At all. Only if America balkanized

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

aren't you from Europe

anyways, no need to say "they" and be ambiguous, we know who they're indian

and that the majority are towards positions that are entry lvl & junior level jobs

vast majority don't have advanced degrees coming in either

lolllllll

But don't worry there is no abuse going on, Americans just lack credentials for junior and entry lvl positions in tech and they just need to work harder

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No, not possible. At all. Only if America balkanized

Bro do you see who's in charge of this place

 

[RyoQ]

Bro do you see who's in charge of this place

i might be cooked. I'll have gone out telling the truth

 

[Reborn]

aren't you from Europe

anyways, no need to say "they" and be ambiguous, we know who they're indian

and that the majority are towards positions that are entry lvl & junior level jobs

vast majority don't have advanced degrees coming in either

lolllllll

But don't worry there is no abuse going on, Americans just lack credentials for junior and entry lvl positions in tech and they just need to work harder

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No, not possible. At all. Only if America balkanized

so, they are taking your jobs by taking your own education system and you feel scared because you don't have skills to compete?

Got it....

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I didn't ask what Logiko said

I asked why H1B is an issue and needs to be done away with? Watch this short

https://youtube.com/shorts/huP_2xJLXZc?si=ii1Ts1ILSvUpQ5uR


H1B brings competition. And, you know what we do when there is competition? We raise our standards and competency to compete - not eradicate the competition.


They aren't taking your jobs. You are handing them over. Raise your standards if you care about it.

Ngl, a lot of the hostility towards H1-B really does just come from racism

irl H1-Bs cannot take your job. There are 170 million people in the American workforce and less than 1 million of them are on H1-B.

Even if you are an engineer or something, there are entire sectors of jobs that are basically reserved for US citizens. Stuff relating to the government and government contract work is typically only for citizens.

There are a lot of bums who are not doing well in their life and get irrationally angry when they see an immigrant doing well, because they feel entitled to that success.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

i might be cooked. I'll have gone out telling the truth

 

[Monkey D Theories]

aren't you from Europe

anyways, no need to say "they" and be ambiguous, we know who they're indian

and that the majority are towards positions that are entry lvl & junior level jobs

vast majority don't have advanced degrees coming in either

lolllllll

But don't worry there is no abuse going on, Americans just lack credentials for junior and entry lvl positions in tech and they just need to work harder

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No, not possible. At all. Only if America balkanized

H1-Bs are literally less than 1% of the American workforce

 

[RyoQ]

so, they are taking your jobs by taking your own education system and you feel scared because you don't have skills to compete?

Got it....

Fucking prove there aren't enough Americans with credentials to fill junior/entry level positions which the majority of H1Bs go for

You can't, because there is no lack of qualification, but there is a lot of profit for companies wanting foreign labor who can hire foreign often up to -50% cheaper

 

[Reborn]

Ngl, a lot of the hostility towards H1-B really does just come from racism

irl H1-Bs cannot take your job. There are 170 million people in the American workforce and less than 1 million of them are on H1-B.

Even if you are an engineer or something, there are entire sectors of jobs that are basically reserved for US citizens. Stuff relating to the government and government contract work is typically only for citizens.

There are a lot of bums who are not doing well in their life and get irrationally angry when they see an immigrant doing well, because they feel entitled to that success.

I guess so

There is no way anyone can feel insecure by legal migrants to this extent when they actually contribute way more through taxes and revenue generation and even creating jobs lol

 

[RyoQ]

Even if you are an engineer or something, there are entire sectors of jobs that are basically reserved for US citizens. Stuff relating to the government and government contract work is typically only for citizens

"Just go work for the government and let Indian and Chinese have the private sector"

Fuck. You. LOL

 

[Reborn]

Fucking prove there aren't enough Americans with credentials to fill junior/entry level positions which the majority of H1Bs go for

You can't, because there is no lack of qualification, but there is a lot of profit for companies wanting foreign labor who can hire foreign often up to -50% cheaper

So, companies are getting more skilled foreign workforce than you are and even at cheaper hiring rate and this makes you insecure?

Got it...

 

[RyoQ]

I guess so

There is no way anyone can feel insecure by legal migrants to this extent when they actually contribute way more through taxes and revenue generation and even creating jobs lol

why you won't acknowledge them saving companies millions instead of hiring Americans?

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So, companies are getting more skilled foreign workforce than you are and even at cheaper hiring rate and this makes you insecure?

you're confronted with companies being able to abuse H1B by hiring foreign labor for cheaper than American and all you can resort to is "insecure.". Yes, I suppose my job I qualify for going to a non citizen because Google can pay them half as much is quite an debilitating thought

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Also I’m pretty sure most if not all of those Indian CEOs are only Indian by ethnicity and are actually American citizens.

Some like the YouTube are even born in the US.

This is legit the Indian version of that “Jews control the media” meme where irl most of those folk probably wouldn’t even be Jews by halachic standards or maybe even by reform standards.

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"Just go work for the government and let Indian and Chinese have the private sector"

Fuck. You. LOL