Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Thing with H1B visa is its strictly regulated.

It's fine to have regulations but saying we need to curb it - now that's protectionism or racism

This will only drive America away from the rest of the world.

But well it's American Problem to deal with lol
 
You must not be a native or apart of the majority demographic here. I can understand your sympathies toward abusing foreigners and the companies that reap well from it, often being able to hire foreign up to 50% cheaper, which Reborn has been avoiding confronting this entire time hahaha

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That’s not the fault of immigrants
No, it is because to acquire H1B requires Indians and Chinese to secure a job first, meaning if it was banned hundreds of thousands of job openings would appear. It is exactly the fault of immigrants and you are coping, probably because you are either an immigrant or the family of one benefitting off this system abuse.
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It's fine to have regulations but saying we need to curb it - now that's protectionism or racism
I'm not really scared of your calling "racist", that's just a word. If H1B was completely banned and all owners of it revoked it would lead to some economic contractions but largely end unemployment for STEM workers and force companies into giving natives the jobs they are owed and qualified for. I'm assuming you are on H1B here so that would be bad for you.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
You must not be a native or apart of the majority demographic here. I can understand your sympathies toward abusing foreigners and the companies that reap well from it, often being able to hire foreign up to 50% cheaper, which Reborn has been avoiding confronting this entire time hahaha

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No, it is because to acquire H1B requires Indians and Chinese to secure a job first, meaning if it was banned hundreds of thousands of job openings would appear. It is exactly the fault of immigrants and you are coping, probably because you are either an immigrant or the family of one benefitting off this system abuse.
So, they are able to seek jobs in USA makes it immigrants fault that they applied and got it? Lmao

Why your Stem holders didn't apply?
 
You must not be a native or apart of the majority demographic here. I can understand your sympathies toward abusing foreigners and the companies that reap well from it, often being able to hire foreign up to 50% cheaper, which Reborn has been avoiding confronting this entire time hahaha

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No, it is because to acquire H1B requires Indians and Chinese to secure a job first, meaning if it was banned hundreds of thousands of job openings would appear. It is exactly the fault of immigrants and you are coping, probably because you are either an immigrant or the family of one benefitting off this system abuse.
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I'm not really scared of your calling "racist", that's just a word. If H1B was completely banned and all owners of it revoked it would lead to some economic contractions but largely end unemployment for STEM workers and force companies into giving natives the jobs they are owed and qualified for. I'm assuming you are on H1B here so that would be bad for you.
A native to America right?
I am.
 
A native to America right?
I am.
But you don't sympathize or care about other Americans in this unemployment crisis directly caused by H1B and immigration...appear to sympathize more with the foreigner...hmm....
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I am curious about one more thing - it's what Ryo saying - a mainstream narrative or small voices?
It is becoming increasingly mainstream.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
You don't want to confront companies being able to hire immigrant for much cheaper do you, you parasite
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Who decides salaries? Companies right?

So, if companies offer less and foreign nationals are willing to work for less by offering same or more quality to cash in the opportunity, then how fault lies with immigrants?

Why your STEM holders aren't ready to work for less?
 
No, it is because to acquire H1B requires Indians and Chinese to secure a job first, meaning if it was banned hundreds of thousands of job openings would appear. It is exactly the fault of immigrants and you are coping, probably because you are either an immigrant or the family of one benefitting off this system abuse.
If you actually care about employment, why don’t you support the government guaranteeing people jobs?

if you actually care about wages, why don’t you support unions?

because those things could make a much bigger impact than immigration reform.

when you go off about the ethnicity of CEOs it really does seem like this is more about some racial grievance you have as opposed to actual economic issues.
 
If you actually care about employment, why don’t you support the government guaranteeing people jobs?
Lmao, you won't even deny now that tech grads are losing jobs to H1B, you are just saying leave private sector and just go work for the government

Completely shameless
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If someone can't get a job I doubt it's the fault of foreigners lol
Your "doubts" do not allign with statistics. I know you all are ethnics and not demographically white American (the demographic largely being fucked in the ass by H1B) and tribalistically don't see any issue with the abuse so my words fall on deaf ears.

I'll just say I can't wait for your tears in the coming years when H1B does become severely restricted or banned
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Who decides salaries? Companies right?

So, if companies offer less and foreign nationals are willing to work for less by offering same or more quality to cash in the opportunity, then how fault lies with immigrants?

Why your STEM holders aren't ready to work for less?
Yes dip shit, that is one way to describe companies weaponizing foreign workers against the native population by forcing natives to take lower pay than what companies are capable of paying them
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Lmao, you won't even deny now that tech grads are losing jobs to H1B, you are just saying leave private sector and just go work for the government

Completely shameless
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Your "doubts" do not allign with statistics. I know you all are ethnics and not demographically white American (the demographic largely being fucked in the ass by H1B) and tribalistically don't see any issue with the abuse so my words fall on deaf ears.

I'll just say I can't wait for your tears in the coming years when H1B does become severely restricted or banned
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Yes dip shit, that is one way to describe companies weaponizing foreign workers against the native population by forcing natives to take lower pay than what companies are capable of paying them
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Oh the poor white people they're just suffering so much
Man white people might have it the toughest out of any race. Some of them can't get good jobs!! :josad:
 
Oh the poor white people they're just suffering so much
Man white people might have it the toughest out of any race. Some of them can't get good jobs!! :josad:
Reverse victim-mentality. The minority sees itself as a victim, and the majority being unable to be victimized in any way, because the minority sees them as "privileged" and above being capable of screwed over by something like H1B even though that is what has happened for the past decade and continues to

Truly the worst strain of minority to have within ones country. Loathsome
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What is wrong with working for the government or for govt contractors?

The US government is the largest employer in the country.
No fuck off and don't tell natives to cease the private sector for government work which comprises maybe ~10% at most of all non-medical STEM jobs
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Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
America was literally "founded' by Europeans who migrated by force, and slaughtered that native Americans and Mexicans that were here first. They also brought black people to America by force. And some are so full of American pride that they hate foreigners and gatekeep lol. Migrants are simply doing what the founding fathers did minus the slaughter.
 
Reverse victim-mentality. The minority sees itself as a victim, and the majority being unable to be victimized in any way, because the minority sees them as "privileged" and above being capable of screwed over by something like H1B even though that is what has happened for the past decade and continues to

Truly the worst strain of minority to have within ones country. Loathsome
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No fuck off and don't tell natives to cease the private sector for government work which comprises maybe ~10% at most of all non-medical STEM jobs
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They are privileged lmao
I do feel bad that some of them are suffering but at the same time it's probably not as big an issue as you think
And it's definitely not like it's only white people that can't find jobs or whatever
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Lmao, you won't even deny now that tech grads are losing jobs to H1B, you are just saying leave private sector and just go work for the government

Completely shameless
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Your "doubts" do not allign with statistics. I know you all are ethnics and not demographically white American (the demographic largely being fucked in the ass by H1B) and tribalistically don't see any issue with the abuse so my words fall on deaf ears.

I'll just say I can't wait for your tears in the coming years when H1B does become severely restricted or banned
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Yes dip shit, that is one way to describe companies weaponizing foreign workers against the native population by forcing natives to take lower pay than what companies are capable of paying them
:mihugh:
Insulting me won't change the fact that your arguments irks of racism and envy - I am not skilled enough and I can't tolerate how migrants are taking my jobs and rising well while I can't

And, trust me, Brain drain affects foreign countries more than it helps USA but as I said, you have no idea how economy works.
 
They are privileged lmao
I do feel bad that some of them are suffering but at the same time it's probably not as big an issue as you think
And it's definitely not like it's only white people that can't find jobs or whatever
We aren't privileged, you aren't oppressed. We go and spend years and thousands in debt to get a degree in STEM but have to compete with thousands of foreigners with H1Bs who companies can and continue to hire instead for lower cost

You might not give a shit. I don't really care, I never said H1B is a problem for all Americans or all jobs. It is specific to white STEM grads.
 
No fuck off and don't tell natives to cease the private sector for government work which comprises maybe ~10% at most of all non-medical STEM jobs
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Tech companies are global enterprises that compete on a global scale, they have no obligation to cater to American citizens. In fact if H1-Bs were banned, they’d probably build more offices in India to retain those workers.

If you want jobs made for US citizens, apply at a defense company.
 
Insulting me won't change the fact that your arguments irks of racism and envy - I am not skilled enough and I can't tolerate how migrants are taking my jobs and rising well while I can't

And, trust me, Brain drain affects foreign countries more than it helps USA but as I said, you have no idea how economy works.
Crying about racism isn't an argument. You claim to know how economy works and see no issue with large companies abusing it as with H1Bs.
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Tech companies are global enterprises that compete on a global scale, they have no obligation to cater to American citizens
Spoiler alert: American tech companies headquartered and operating inside America, allowed to do so only at the discretion of America...is obligated towards American citizens.
 
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