Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

I said "one of" and wouldn't surprised if it was a factor.

Bro, communist nations back each other's narratives for ideological reasons. No countries invade each other just because of narratives.
edit: I don't think it was a factor at all.

 

[Roo]

Good news is based on how US leaders are giving statements recently - on the lines of "it's US victory" and optimism from few ministers, it seems like we might see flow of Gas and oil through Hormuz within a week or so.

Oil and gas prices stabilized so it seems like the market is confident there won’t be a crisis

 

[NAMELESS]

Apparently that’s the rationale behind all these moves in neocon circles. Take away chinas sphere of influence or at least show China we’re not afraid of pushing back on them

makes sense considering Trump sees China as a bigger threat than Russia

Well, that is because they are.

 

[Reborn]

Oil and gas prices stabilized so it seems like the market is confident there won’t be a crisis

Not really

Market responded to the statements made yesterday by Trump and co.

However, without continuation of supply from gulf, this stability is short lived and can revert back to rapid rise within few days, if situation doesn't improve. As of now, there's very limited supply.

Iran is very selective regarding which shipment should pass.

 

[Roo]

Well, that is because they are.

Putin is expansionist while China is more of a soft power super power

I think you can reason with China. You clearly cannot with Putin

 

[Reborn]

Well, that is because they are.

True but I think US leaders lost that diplomatic skills they had.

Few days ago, an American leader made a statement and it goes something like this - "US will not make the same mistake with India as US did it with China"

This statement implied two things

1) China's rise was because of USA mistake or USA let China to rise

2) USA will control India's rise to ensure India doesn't become another China.



I am like - who says such things before doing it lmao

 

[NAMELESS]

Putin is expansionist while China is more of a soft power super power

I think you can reason with China. You clearly cannot with Putin

As of right now, you are right. China has the potential to be way worse than Russia, though. Who knows who is going to call the shots after Xi is gone.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Embarrassing

 

[NAMELESS]

True but I think US leaders lost that diplomatic skills they had.

Few days ago, an American leader made a statement and it goes something like this - "US will not make the same mistake with India as US did it with China"

This statement implied two things

1) China's rise was because of USA mistake or USA let China to rise

2) USA will control India's rise to ensure India doesn't become another China.



I am like - who says such things before doing it lmao

Not really; this is the internet effect at play. People say shit online they wouldn't say irl. I really doubt that whoever said that would do the same in an actual meeting with Indian representatives.

 

[Reborn]

Not really; this is the internet effect at play. People say shit online they wouldn't say irl. I really doubt that whoever said that would do the same in an actual meeting with Indian representatives.

That statement was from US Deputy Secretary of State and he made it during Raisina dialogue held in India few days ago... Height of stupidity ngl

 

[NAMELESS]

That statement was from US Deputy Secretary of State and he made it during Raisina dialogue held in India few days ago... Height of stupidity ngl

He must have been drunk, or this was just another case of arrogance.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Neither of them can stop this.

It's not about lack of capacity but about strategic interests.

Tbh, war with Iran is working in their favors.

It's being reported that US is considering lifting sanctions from Russia to ease oil and gas supply. India already received 30 days waiver and is buying Russian oil stuck on seas.

Infact, Russian oil and gas demands are rising and they are gaining financially.


A crippled Iran would rely heavily on China. It would give China an opportunity to get oil at much discounted rate in future and also spread it's economic leverage in the region.


As I said earlier, major powers of the world are having strategic silence. They will intervene to get ceasefire only when economic consequences will start going out of control.

Maybe geopolitics is super hard hopefully there wont be pearl harbour situation with Iran .

We dont know where this fire will catch.

 

[Uncle Van]

Bro, communist nations back each other's narratives for ideological reasons. No countries invade each other just because of narratives.
edit: I don't think it was a factor at all.

Never said or implied counties invade just because of narrative though? Seriously what point are you trying to make here?

 

[Midnight Delight]

I should start a Podcast

 

[NAMELESS]

pearl harbour situation with Iran .

What do you mean by that?

 

[Reborn]

I should start a Podcast

Channel name - Midnight Talks

 

[NAMELESS]

Never said or implied counties invade just because of narrative though? Seriously what point are you trying to make here?

My guy, are you well? All I'm saying is that I THINK countries don't go around starting armed conflicts over narratives.
So, I THINK it wasn't a factor at all. Never said or implied you said any of these. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Roo]

I should start a Podcast

Yea the people are dying to hear about how Isa is an archangel fighting pagan gods like Saturn

 

[NAMELESS]

I should start a Podcast

Yea the people are dying to hear about how Isa is an archangel fighting pagan gods like Saturn

fight motherfuckers fight

 

[Midnight Delight]

@NAMELESS the funny thing about BRICs and Third Worldism

Is that only Latinos fall for it, Indians want India on top, Russia wants to be on top, China wants to be on top, South Africa is sabotaging Nigeria to stay on top of "Bantu Africa", only Brazil seems to fall for the hype, Pushing Third Worldism over any attempts of making Latin America a world leading Region

To me Latino Third Worldists are equally as Guilty as American Assets in terms of how they destroyed Latin America's potential

Since you are Brazilian , you probably know what I mean