Controversial General Political Discussion

[Okamakama]

It's quite funny it's literally these kind that keep on doing generalization on muslims.

You also have this:

https://youtube.com/shorts/ipNplDorqAk?si=wdQ2p2KcuZohcxUX

What's your point? There are always extremists on both sides.[/MEDIA]

False equivalences galore. One was celebrating barbarism, the other was indignant from being attacked.

Your arguments hinge on being the victim. This time you are not.
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He can talk about not generalizing, having a right to defend themselves when the topic is Israelites
Turn the page to Muslims and all of a sudden the mask comes off and the dog whistles start blowing

Muslims were the aggressors this time. And it was a savage attack at that.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

First point: I disagree, because my point was that blood and soil makes no sense. The Israeli's call it home now. It sucks, but it's how things ar

The first person who brought up 'blood and soil' was you. Your responses make no sense, you're strawmanning and gaslighting like crazy

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Third point: The point was not about Jews. These were warmongering groups that did not really peacefully coexist. They were conquerors. Islam believes it owns the holy land, at least that's the impression I have gotten from going out and speaking to protestors in my country. I am saying that I cannot see Palestine not wanting more once it's given something. It'll keep growing. After all, they believe they are justice, at least, it's radical wing does and it's supporters like yourself, who in this very message has accused Israel as being the ones at fault.

None of this even matters. As a matter of fact, Israel is currently bombing civilians of which a majority are small children. NOTHING excuses or justifies the vicious killing of children be it for the sake of retaliation ,historical justice or whatever.
Israel has the upper hand, Israel is in charge and has all the power in this conflict. They must make the first step towards peace lest more families are ripped apart on BOTH sides.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

None of this even matters. As a matter of fact, Israel is currently bombing civilians of which a majority are small children. NOTHING excuses or justifies the vicious killing of children be it for the sake of retaliation ,historical justice or whatever.
Israel has the upper hand, Israel is in charge and has all the power in this conflict. They must make the first step towards peace lest more families are ripped apart on BOTH sides.

These people don't care.

 

[Roo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715044121268932960

@TheAncientCenturion i think 50-100 at max sounds more reasonable if there were alot of people in the parking lot

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Muslims were the aggressors this time. And it was a savage attack at that.

Now you're sounding like a politician 😂

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715044121268932960

@TheAncientCenturion i think 50-100 at max sounds more reasonable if there were alot of people in the parking lot

Right, so the original reports can be canned as wholly inaccurate.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Disagree but it’s alright


idk who but someone said since israel exists now they’re here to stay there’s no way around it, but that’s actually not true any country can cease to exist even in today, many countries ceased after existing for centuries and thats true to every country im not talking about just israel, but dissolving countries in this period of time is hard but possible

hold your horses.
There's no need for Israel to disappear as a state, 2 state solution is the only good solution.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67151404.amp

when western islamophobes and Hindu nationalists team up to fight Muslims

 

[Roo]

Right, so the original reports can be canned as wholly inaccurate.

Honestly, I am now doubting any Gaza’s casualties report from the “Ministry of Health”. Seems like they’re inflating their numbers like crazy. I know they’re appointed by Hamas but I didn’t expect a 1000% increase. That is wildly inaccurate

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

hold your horses.
There's no need for Israel to disappear as a state, 2 state solution is the only good solution.
when western islamophobes and Hindu nationalists team up to fight Muslims

Why are you calling this British man a Hindu nationalist?

 

[NikaInParis]

70 years of attacks, children being killed, homes destroyed = no right to play the victim

One attack = total savagery (same could've been seen in any IDF attack on Gaza or even the West Bank), Israel has every right to be a victim


People forget the West Bank situation in light of Gaza. What's the reasoning there?
There's no Hamas in the West Bank. Yet homes are being taken away and more than 7000 Palestinians have been murdered since the start of the occupation there.

No meat shields this time so what is the cope, bots?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Honestly, I am now doubting any Gaza’s casualties report from the “Ministry of Health”. Seems like they’re inflating their numbers like crazy. I know they’re appointed by Hamas but I didn’t expect a 1000% increase. That is wildly inaccurate

It’s predictable when they throw out wild claims within minutes of the disaster, but this confirms it.

 

[NikaInParis]

you think soldiers are coming in the west bank and executing people? lol

They must be dying from BulletInMyChestitis then

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

you think soldiers are coming in the west bank and executing people? lol

I've seen enough videos years ago to know what is happening there. You're not convincing anybody

 

[Okamakama]

The first person who brought up 'blood and soil' was you. Your responses make no sense, you're strawmanning and gaslighting like crazy

The blood and soil argument was what was being used, just not put into words. Don't hide behind such things. People believed the land belongs to Palestine by right. That's blood and soil. Coining a term does not mean I was the first to actually use the argumentation method. Sheesh.

 

[NikaInParis]

btw, according to UN there are 1007 dead in the west bank: (so 5400 in Gaza)
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties


so far in this war, 53 terrorists died in West bank

In what "this" war? The current occupation of the West Bank started a few years ago, not a couple of weeks ago

 

[Okamakama]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715044121268932960

@TheAncientCenturion i think 50-100 at max sounds more reasonable if there were alot of people in the parking lot

Damn... you mean... they lied?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

In what "this" war? The current occupation of the West Bank started a few years ago, not a couple of weeks ago

''Don't dwell on the past'' 🤡

 

[Tobra]

you think soldiers are coming in the west bank and executing people? lol

Lmaoooooooooo
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In what "this" war? The current occupation of the West Bank started a few years ago, not a couple of weeks ago

that zionist is claiming that palestinians in west bank are terrorists even tho theres no hamas or terrorist organization there

 

[Roo]

It’s predictable when they throw out wild claims within minutes of the disaster, but this confirms it.

It went up as high as 800 casualties lol. It sucks because this disinformation caused major protest around the area

Damn... you mean... they lied?

Yes. They at first said a hospital was struck, but now it looks like whatever hit that area just hit the parking lot, and the buildings surrounding it were largely fine.

People need to learn to always wait for more information. It literally doesn’t hurt to wait till the fog clears.