Controversial General Political Discussion

[Ravagerblade]

A liberal is trying to taught me how to be a militant. I'm no liberal, I'm a leftist

It's a catch all term buddy. But whatever...
You think it's your place to tell people what to do if they're not doing what "You" think they should be doing.
The irony if I ever saw it.
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LMAO What fight? You're fighting with dweebs who argue which drawing beats which drawing

Not CNN analysts, not congressmen, not activist. Fucking degenerate weebs. You've spent an entire year arguing with people with nonsense and you've failed to change anyone's belief system. You've accomplished absolutely nothing :risitavirus:

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[Logiko]

My man, take your meds.

You are making my points for me Billy.

If you want to make a real difference then volunteer

1. You don't get to choose how people fights
2. Told you many time that I can't. This forum is my only way to express myself at the time.

Help the homeless, donate you income to help build up your community. If you want to help victims of war crimes then go to gaza and volunteer with the UN

"speaking is not fighting, go raise some money, fight for real" Typical liberal BS.

But for you to have the audacity to say I don't care and that I'm part of the problem while I've actively asked for better moderation and new terms of service is beyond shameless.

No you don't. If you were truly caring, you wouldn't be toxic with one of the only guy really fighting toxicity for this forum. You would s*ut it up. You would like the posts, you would help me explain to the mod the problem with bigots on this forum as i'm am "unable to create understandable sentences". You wouldn't turn a blind eyes like so many liberals are doing this days in front of the far right.

I myself donate a good chunk of my income to support and build up my community, especially the homeless in NY. That's called helping, that's called trying to make a difference.

You know who are also donating to feel that they are doing something ? Billionnaires.
I don't care about something I can't see. i only see your actions here and the fact that you prefer standing in front of the one fighting bigots and saying that there fights are "not the good fights" ™ rather than standing against actual transphobe in this thread in the first place.

LMAO What fight? You're fighting with dweebs who argue which drawing beats which drawing

There are not little fights in this world.

you've failed to change anyone's belief system

This only means that I have to find a better way, not to stop fighting mate :)

You think it's your place to tell people what to do if they're not doing what "You" think they should be doing.

Are you the type of person that would be ok to let your sister be insulted in front of you because of "free speech"?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You are making my points for me Billy.

Who tf is Billy???????????
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No you don't. If you were truly caring, you wouldn't be toxic with one of the only guy really fighting toxicity for this forum. You would s*ut it up. You would like the posts, you would help me explain to the mod the problem with bigots on this forum as i'm am "unable to create understandable sentences". You wouldn't turn a blind eyes like so many liberals are doing this days in front of the far right.

But you make things actively worse. How can I support you when you can't even convey your shit concisely and you make yourself look like a lunatic?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Are you the type of person that would be ok to let your sister be insulted in front of you because of "free speech"?

I know where this is going... Nothing justifies assault.

You remove your sister from that situation and leave it at that

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You know who are also donating to feel that they are doing something ? Billionnaires.
I don't care about something I can't see. i only see your actions here and the fact that you prefer standing in front of the one fighting bigots and saying that there fights are "not the good fights" ™ rather than standing against actual transphobe in this thread in the first place.

You're fighting losers with no money or political power. These guys don't even have friends. How can you have the gull to say you do more than me when I've actively helped people get off the street and have supported orgs and trade unions that are trying to make legislative change in the state of NY? You absolute Buffon.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Hot take. I think Israel deserved the October 7th attack by Hamas.

It’s a tragedy for any person to die, however….

In the Torah it is shown exactly what happens to nations when they go against the will of G-d. Egypt oppresssed the Israelites for decades. G-d gave the pharaoh many chances to change his ways and he didn’t listen. Then you all know what happened.

It’s the same thing for Israel. They oppresssed the Palestinians for decades. Jews aren’t even allowed to mistreat immigrants. That’s a line that’s been repeated multiple times in the Torah. “You shall not oppress the stranger amongst you for you were once strangers in Egypt…”

Then imagine how great of a sin it is to oppress the Palestinians who aren’t strangers, but are the native people of the land.

Yet israel did this for decades despite having ample opportunities to create peace. October 7th was the inevitable consequence of these evil actions.

Don't use religion to justify death and genocide. That's what got us here in the first place. Civilian deaths are never justified.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I don’t want innocent people to die. But the only way to stop the violence is for Israel to stop committing crimes against the Palestinians.

Israel’s recent actions, murdering countless scores of innocents, destroying entire families, has already bred a new generation of terrorists,

Imo anyone who seriously cares about saving Jewish lives would oppose Israel’s evil regime. But no, every time israel is attacked we just double down on support for israel.

Great. See y’all in the next war.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Hot take. I think Israel deserved the October 7th attack by Hamas.

No one deserves to be attacked

It's not hard to understand that is not incompatible be against both hamas terrorist attack and all the war crimes Israel is doing

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Don't use religion to justify death and genocide. That's what got us here in the first place. Civilian deaths are never justified.

Their deaths were a tragedy for sure.

But I can’t say that an oppressed people should just be complicit in their own oppression and ethic cleansing.

I think Palestine has a right to self defense.

None the less I don’t want people to die. Which is why Israel’s oppressive policies need to end.

 

[Logiko]

Who tf is Billy???????????

You are Billy, the little Billy, the representation of the one who think they know better.

But you make things actively worse.

Oh ? Really ? By stopping people from spitting hatred and putting myserlf as the target instead, I'm making things "worse" ?

Are you the kind of guy that is going feminist that say "f*ck men" and dare saying to them "you are hurting you cause" ? Don't tell, I know you are.

What I'm doing is creating a new target. I'm deflecting the shots and waste the time of the bigots so they can spit less hate.

You don't understand real militantism. Militantism in my case is not about changing people's mind, its too annoy haters enough that they don't dare take a foot again on this forum.

I know where this is going... Nothing justifies assault.

Oh! So suddenly, an insult becomes an assaut ? Looks like you just put a limit on free speech yourself.

How can you have the gull to say you do more than me

Did I say that ? I only see your action, I don't care about something that I can't verify. I too for a period was donating a lot to charity, I was still a jerk.

You absolute Buffon.

See.. you are starting to become yourself. Finally showing your true form.

Hot take. I think Israel deserved the October 7th attack by Hamas.

You win a report for that.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Their deaths were a tragedy for sure.

But I can’t say that an oppressed people should just be complicit in their own oppression and ethic cleansing.

I think Palestine has a right to self defense.

None the less I don’t want people to die. Which is why Israel’s oppressive policies need to end.

A war crime doesn't justify a war crime. Why not target the IDF instead of civilians? I'm talking exclusively about Hamas here. Palestinians don't have to be perfect victims, but we can't just kill innocents because their grandparents where colonizers.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

A war crime doesn't justify a war crime. Why not target the IDF instead of civilians? I'm talking exclusively about Hamas here. Palestinians don't have to be perfect victims, but we can't just kill innocents because their grandparents where colonizers.

It isn’t fair that those people died.

I just don’t believe Hamas can really be blamed when they are merely reacting to a situation Israel has created.

I blame the deaths of those people on Israel for creating a scenario antithetical to peace.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

It isn’t fair that those people died.

I just don’t believe Hamas can really be blamed when they are merely reacting to a situation Israel has created.

I blame the deaths of those people on Israel for creating a scenario antithetical to peace.

Israel bares a lot of the blame. But this is a war crime. They raped teenagers. That shit is abhorrent.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

It isn’t fair that those people died.

I just don’t believe Hamas can really be blamed when they are merely reacting to a situation Israel has created.

I blame the deaths of those people on Israel for creating a scenario antithetical to peace.

They have to be blamed, not the gaza people

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Israel bares a lot of the blame. But this is a war crime. They raped teenagers. That shit is abhorrent.

That is true

but I just don’t think it’s a productive conversation to dwell on this.

Israel has all of the power. They had 70+ years to get a peace deal. Instead they did the six day war, occupied Gaza and the West Bank, and have turned people living in these regions into second class citizens.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

That is true

but I just don’t think it’s a productive conversation to dwell on this.

Israel has all of the power. They had 70+ years to get a peace deal. Instead they did the six day war, occupied Gaza and the West Bank, and have turned people living in these regions into second class citizens.

Yes, but you will just play into their game where they'll accuse of anti-Semitism if you say this.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

They have to be blamed, not the gaza people

I blame israel because israel has the power to end the conflict.

Hamas has zero power. That’s why they’re terrorists, because that is literally all they can do.
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Yes, but you will just play into their game where they'll accuse of anti-Semitism if you say this.

I mean I’m criticizing israel from a religiously Jewish POV.

And I feel like Judaism has a long history of exactly these types of discourse.

Like I’m pretty sure the consensus on Jewish exile is that G-d sent jews into exile as a punishment.

Some Jews even go so far to say the Holocaust was a divine punishment, although imo that’s too far.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I blame israel because israel has the power to end the conflict.

Hamas has zero power. That’s why they’re terrorists, because that is literally all they can do.

So you dont blame the attack?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

So you dont blame the attack?

That's not what he's saying. He's saying Israel has enacted a situation in which this sort of scenario would be inevitable with full knowledge it would end up this way. Hamas still bares responsibility for the warcrime, but the architect of this conflict is most definitely the Israeli state.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

That's not what he's saying. He's saying Israel has enacted a situation in which this sort of scenario would be inevitable with full knowledge it would end up this way. Hamas still bares responsibility for the warcrime, but the architect of this conflict is most definitely the Israeli state.

I understanding that, he is showing why the situation come to this, but I'm curious if he blame or not what happened