i think the state has a vested interest in the rearing of children.

As such I don’t really agree with the whole independent school district system. I feel like public education should be standardized from the top down.

Public education needs to be more robust and it should be mandatory for all children.
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I think the idea that parents are the sole owners of their children is gross.

Yes, parents are an important part of a child’s life. but I think you need a significant state presence in order to counteract the fact that all parents have flaws, and some are even kinda shitty.
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Like if you’re a nazi. And you want to send your kids to some private nazi school so that they can become nazis, I don’t think you should be able to do that.
 
i dislike academia




they push leftist/liberal poltics such as femminism and critual race theory
At its best Academia is good because it allows for discussions of multiple topics and ideas.

Modern Day Academia is failing in this regard by ostracizing anything that falls outside of the leftist dogma
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i think the state has a vested interest in the rearing of children.

As such I don’t really agree with the whole independent school district system. I feel like public education should be standardized from the top down.

Public education needs to be more robust and it should be mandatory for all children.
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I think the idea that parents are the sole owners of their children is gross.

Yes, parents are an important part of a child’s life. but I think you need a significant state presence in order to counteract the fact that all parents have flaws, and some are even kinda shitty.
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Like if you’re a nazi. And you want to send your kids to some private nazi school so that they can become nazis, I don’t think you should be able to do that.
that is a huge breach of personal freedoms
 
i think the state has a vested interest in the rearing of children.

As such I don’t really agree with the whole independent school district system. I feel like public education should be standardized from the top down.

Public education needs to be more robust and it should be mandatory for all children
A centralized school system kills regional traditions and languages. Even in Europe
+ nobody "owns" children
 
Modern Day Academia is failing in this regard by ostracizing anything that falls outside of the leftist dogma
No mate, Academias just teach.

What a lot of you guys here are still failing to understand is not that Academias are teaching leftism therefore academia are leftist, its that Academias are leaning left because they are teaching scientific and researched knowledges and those knowledge happen to rely on reality therefore they are adopted by the left.

Once you will understand that scientific consensus are always supported by the left, you will also understand why academias seems - from an outside point of view - to teach "leftist dogmas"
 
A little introduction to Sociology for those who are interested with two videos about concepts developped by the GOAT of the discipline: P. Bourdieu :

The Habitus



The Cultural capital with the example of the love for Art and Hip Hop

 
At its best Academia is good because it allows for discussions of multiple topics and ideas.

Modern Day Academia is failing in this regard by ostracizing anything that falls outside of the leftist dogma
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that is a huge breach of personal freedoms
Parents should definitely have some rights regarding their children's education

but similarly, I think children have the right to a proper education and society has a right not to be burdened by the children of shitty parents
 
Well no.. as I showed, because this consensus doesn't negate the right for women to get abortion
Irrelevant. Life beginning at conception is a separate issue altogether, even if it plays into abortion for some people.

But i have even heard unhinged shit like life beginning at birth
 
Irrelevant. Life beginning at conception is a separate issue altogether, even if it plays into abortion for some people.

But i have even heard unhinged shit like life beginning at birth
Mate, that's exactly what I said. Life beginning at fertilization does not matter for the debate on abortion. Therefore we, leftist, still agree with the consensus.

The point is that the left is the reality leaning side. We are basing our reasonning on facts, data and researches hence why in the end.... We are always the side that wins.

I'm not trying to reason with liberals/confusionnist/incel and far rightist on this thread because I'm scared that the left side we lose, I'm not. I believe that as long as human will look at reality, progress and therefore the side that helps it advance, will eventually win in the end... The reason I'm doing this is because in the process of progress... we might witness multiple wave of fascists/ultraliberals/racist/sexist decades/centuries where humans rights and human lives are completely negated.

For example, although I think that in a few decades, we MIGHT live in a golden age of social advances, I think that within the next few years, we might witness the rise of true fascism again... And in a world where a simple button can end the human species, I think its better for us all to do everything we can to prevent that.

This is why the fight again fascism and far right ideas is so important
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
I find it funny how the term Liberal turn into a negative term for the right and conservatives like socialism did.

When someone calls me or someone else a liberal, I'm like "Which one?" Cause there's modern liberalism, classical liberalism, and neoliberalism, making liberalism in general an umbrella term like socialism.

Liberalism in general is freedom of speech, press and religion, equality under the law, separation of religion and state, divided government and political parties(along with being voted by the people) and free markets. Neoliberalism for example focuses on the freedom of trade, strengthening of private sector with limited government, and globalization.
 
I find it funny how the term Liberal turn into a negative term for the right and conservatives like socialism did.

When someone calls me or someone else a liberal, I'm like "Which one?" Cause there's modern liberalism, classical liberalism, and neoliberalism, making liberalism in general an umbrella term like socialism.

Liberalism in general is freedom of speech, press and religion, equality under the law, separation of religion and state, divided government and political parties(along with being voted by the people) and free markets. Neoliberalism for example focuses on the freedom of trade, strengthening of private sector with limited government, and globalization.
The problem of liberalism are its limits implanted in its core values.

While liberalism as a progressist ideology was a necessity to overcome the challenges that faced people a few centuries ago, it has become completely irrelevant, worse, sometimes dangerous to resolve contemporary challenges.

This is due to the values that liberalism represent : individualism / Freedom / Equality, values that rose during the age of enlightenment. Those value, good in theory are actually traps that we created for ourselves as they open the door for corruption and recuperation by the upper classes.

Because the reality is that despite the age of enlightenment and the changes in the human rights, those who have the power didn't change magically, they just adapted to those new values. The French revolution was recuperated by the upper classes and with it, the age of meritocracy was born. An age of universalism were all human are supposed to be equal from birth, a paradise were all people have the same chances. But as Bourdieu explains in really well through concept like the Habitus and the social/economic/instituional capital (cf the two videos I shared a few post ago)....

.. this meritocratic society.. actually never worked and never will. The universalism that was supposed to be created has trapped us into the thinking in a world where we all have equal chances when reality is completely different. Which means that the values of Freedom and equality in front of the law.. are actually becoming prisons and traps for people who don't have the same chances in life as others.

- Women
- People of Color
- People with non Heteronormative gender and sexual identities
- And mostly.. people of the lower classes

Are now all in jeopardy because of the liberalism values that the elite are still pushing forward

Liberalism, that was meant to free us all, has become the conservative prison that is preventing us from evolving toward social progress.
Liberalism, that was a progressive (yet elitist) ideology in the past, is now a conservative vision from a dying world. This is why you can see liberalism being praised by the elite, by the rich and even by conservative through economic liberalism and neoliberalism.

Don't be fooled by the rethoric of the far right that want to prevent the left from evolving by calling it what it is not anymore in labelling it "liberals", the left is not liberal anymore, hasn't been for at least a century. Some liberals entry rightist are still leaning toward progressive ideas (the biden administration is an example of that, even if they still support far right gov on the international) but they are still adopting the economic side of liberalism, a side that has become (was always ?) quite problematic for lower classes.

Liberalism is not relevant anymore, we need something better, something smarter and more in line with reality.

We need to stop thinking in term of individualities and start thinking in term of systems.
 
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