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Trump has yet to answer for a lot of things he did, which ones in particular is debatable. The opposition is far worse though and many don't realise it.
However he's obviously self-centered and I don't know any politician who isn't same way, it's just that only Trumps mistakes get green and yellow marker highlight. He said "let's go together and march peacefully", they didn't go together.
The crowd was constantly let closer and closer onto the capitol, barriers were literally removed to let people get in closer. What shit policing is that? Even waving at the crowd to get closer. Magnetic door was literally turned off to allow people to get in. Police stepped aside and watched people walk in. For most part people were just walking and arrested or fined just for that.
Since when is walking through a building funded by taxpayers a crime? Then Trump started calling out every J6er like they were to be blamed alone. Had Trump marched with the crowd or sat in front of the capitol giving a speech then there would be no sense for the crowd to get closer.
A lot of the J6ers who have done literally nothing apart from walking were rotting in jail.
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RayanOO is french right? As far as I am aware french are protesting all the time about something. Just a fact. It's all sorts of protests, can't even remember them all, some are counter-protests.
However he's obviously self-centered and I don't know any politician who isn't same way, it's just that only Trumps mistakes get green and yellow marker highlight. He said "let's go together and march peacefully", they didn't go together.
The crowd was constantly let closer and closer onto the capitol, barriers were literally removed to let people get in closer. What shit policing is that? Even waving at the crowd to get closer. Magnetic door was literally turned off to allow people to get in. Police stepped aside and watched people walk in. For most part people were just walking and arrested or fined just for that.
Since when is walking through a building funded by taxpayers a crime? Then Trump started calling out every J6er like they were to be blamed alone. Had Trump marched with the crowd or sat in front of the capitol giving a speech then there would be no sense for the crowd to get closer.
A lot of the J6ers who have done literally nothing apart from walking were rotting in jail.
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RayanOO is french right? As far as I am aware french are protesting all the time about something. Just a fact. It's all sorts of protests, can't even remember them all, some are counter-protests.
he tried to change the results. You're making him sound like a child. Stop minimizing what he did.
You don't believe this. Who's worse, the Nazi's following orders or Hitler?
Did you miss the part where he deliberately uses terms such as great Reich? LMAO the guy is even playing into it.
A republican did....
Also find me media calling for turmp to be punched lol
Easy bullet to bite: Riots bad. One is actually inciting them while the other is random retards. These don't equate to one another
You don't believe this. Who's worse, the Nazi's following orders or Hitler?
Did you miss the part where he deliberately uses terms such as great Reich? LMAO the guy is even playing into it.
A republican did....
Also find me media calling for turmp to be punched lol
Easy bullet to bite: Riots bad. One is actually inciting them while the other is random retards. These don't equate to one another
https://www.newsweek.com/jan-6-defendants-sue-police-officers-millions-1887589
Get your head out of the sand. Consider the other side of the story.
Get your head out of the sand. Consider the other side of the story.
Yeah, if calling “election fraud” is dangerous and anti democracy that radicalises, calling Trump Hitler very much is as well.
Both parties do it
Though I think the two party system is completely ingrained and there have never been any problems with “democracy” for real.
Both parties do it
Though I think the two party system is completely ingrained and there have never been any problems with “democracy” for real.
But democrats or liberals have no right to call him Hitler or act as guardian of democracy on high moral compass when they themselves didn't live upto the ideals of democracy
1) Oakland 2016 riots immediately after Trump won the elections
2) Biden as a President remark of " calling Bulls eye on Trump" before assassination and calling him Nazi
3) Whole mainstream media projecting trump as a threat to the existence of democracy who will make everyone lives miserable and will target everyone. I mean they literally kept on repeating this narrative.
4) Hollywood literally advocated violence
5) people on twitter and in person wishing death to Trump
6) physical attacks on him
Don't these things count as incitement of violence?
Shouldn't these counts as attempt to not only brainwash people against Trump but to sow seeds of hatred against him?
Are these things democratic ? No
Asking for protest against a project of law or against a political decision is normal
You have that in all democracies
Asking for protest against the democratic result of an election is totally different.
‘If Macron is promoting a retirement policy and a political party is asking to protest against it : fair game
if Macron is elected again, fairly and in a democratic way and a political party is asking to protest against that election it’s totally different and dangerous and yes it’s not democratic.
‘and there is also the place : protesting in the street is not the same thing as protesting in front of the parliament or the congress.
‘Those two things make Trumps move very dangerous and antidemocratic. And completely outside the realm of classic/normal protest/demonstration
You have that in all democracies
Asking for protest against the democratic result of an election is totally different.
‘If Macron is promoting a retirement policy and a political party is asking to protest against it : fair game
if Macron is elected again, fairly and in a democratic way and a political party is asking to protest against that election it’s totally different and dangerous and yes it’s not democratic.
‘and there is also the place : protesting in the street is not the same thing as protesting in front of the parliament or the congress.
‘Those two things make Trumps move very dangerous and antidemocratic. And completely outside the realm of classic/normal protest/demonstration
Clearly, but the one leading and inciting is the most responsible. this is common sense
Yes, allowed means you can do it without repercussions. Trump shouldn't be able to undermine our democracy without repercussions
Nobody says "you're allowed to hurt people" because we understands what happens if you
Yes, allowed means you can do it without repercussions. Trump shouldn't be able to undermine our democracy without repercussions
Nobody says "you're allowed to hurt people" because we understands what happens if you
I remember in 2016 immediately after Trump being voted in some people got beat up to near death experience for voting for Trump.
Democrats practiced constant double standards. The recent assassination attempt is the direct result of their incitement to violence with words such as "he can't be allowed, he has to go" ... I am not going to quote the exact words, they go way too far and it's sad nobody is holding them accountable.
Democrats practiced constant double standards. The recent assassination attempt is the direct result of their incitement to violence with words such as "he can't be allowed, he has to go" ... I am not going to quote the exact words, they go way too far and it's sad nobody is holding them accountable.
Learn your history. Actually properly learn your history. Also read your constitution and make sure you understand it. Prove you care.
Otherwise you might as well call yourself any other nationality on the two American continents.
Does waving the american flag mean someone is being a white nationalist nazi to you? That's how you come across.
Otherwise you might as well call yourself any other nationality on the two American continents.
Does waving the american flag mean someone is being a white nationalist nazi to you? That's how you come across.
Disagree I guess. Everyone has the right to protest for their views.
In my country there’s massive election fraud and we full well had the right to protest that (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...mmitments-to-free-and-fair-elections-say-meps).
Whether you agree or not on there actually being fraud, the right to protest is still democratic.
In my country there’s massive election fraud and we full well had the right to protest that (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...mmitments-to-free-and-fair-elections-say-meps).
Whether you agree or not on there actually being fraud, the right to protest is still democratic.