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Those people are foolish. They have no idea what their lives in the west will actually be like and are sold unrealistic expectations by smugglers trying to take advantage of them.
Colonization and immigration are two sides of the same coin. To a Native American, my family might be seen as one of the “colonizers”.
Ultimately, while all people have the capacity to coexist peacefully, this isn’t necessarily what will happen. History has proved that.
Influx of Jewish migrants into Palestine caused the 48 war. The 48 war saw the expulsion of Palestinians into neighboring countries. Lebanon was majority Christian. The influx of Muslim migrants due to the Nakba led to a civil war there, I believe. Palestinian militants also caused problems in Egypt and Jordan.
This isn’t to slander any group or say countries shouldn’t accept people. But it’s to illustrate that yes, there are legitimate downsides to immigration. Not everyone will get along and you can’t just moralize about anti-racism and hope everyone will actually agree with you.
I’m not sure what the immigration rates are or what they should be. But I know there are legitimate concerns and those concerns should be taken seriously.
Immigration is also used as a tool to push racism. But just acting like everyone’s concerns are completely invalid isn’t going to get you anywhere.
Colonization and immigration are two sides of the same coin. To a Native American, my family might be seen as one of the “colonizers”.
Ultimately, while all people have the capacity to coexist peacefully, this isn’t necessarily what will happen. History has proved that.
Influx of Jewish migrants into Palestine caused the 48 war. The 48 war saw the expulsion of Palestinians into neighboring countries. Lebanon was majority Christian. The influx of Muslim migrants due to the Nakba led to a civil war there, I believe. Palestinian militants also caused problems in Egypt and Jordan.
This isn’t to slander any group or say countries shouldn’t accept people. But it’s to illustrate that yes, there are legitimate downsides to immigration. Not everyone will get along and you can’t just moralize about anti-racism and hope everyone will actually agree with you.
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I’m not sure what the immigration rates are or what they should be. But I know there are legitimate concerns and those concerns should be taken seriously.
Immigration is also used as a tool to push racism. But just acting like everyone’s concerns are completely invalid isn’t going to get you anywhere.
You really have weird moral panics.
Inside info on what ?
Were you on that boat ?
I would love them to be. But no, they are simple ext rapolations of things already happening.
No, they simply have no choices. The problem is not them, it's the entire system, the system that make them live and the system that treat them badly once they are here.
Instead, people are focused on THEM and do not even think one second to question the capitalist structure that creates those problems in the first place.
You really have weird moral panics.
Colonization and immigration are two VERY different things.
Colonization : people invade a state and submit people to the laws of the metropole. This is a domination system coming from the exterior and the state.
Immigration : people enters countries individually and are submitted to the laws of the country they arrived in.
They are not. Colonialism is a question of the domination of a state and the submition of people to the laws of the state. There is a post-colonial process happening, but you, individually are not colonialist but descendant of migrants. You are not imposing the laws of the state of your country of origin on people.
history proved that Capitalism doesn't work to make people coexist, not that people can't coexist.
The colonialism* caused the 48 war. people were welcomed at first if i'm not mistaken.
Again, the problems are the system, not immigration itself. Hence why, what we must do is attack the system, not immigration.
It IS invalide.
You can fear if you want, but once you start to think, you need to understand that immigration is not a problem but rather the solution.
In reality, through immigration, you make people meet people that they are not used to. This creates a mixing of culture and a global opening of the mindset of both people.
Immigration is not a problem. It never was, it will never be. The problem is capitalism.
The colonialism* caused the 48 war. people were welcomed at first if i'm not mistaken.
Middle class compared to what ? USA ? Senegal ?
Of course you need some ressources to flee and pay the smugglers.. but once you do that ? Well, you risk homelessness, deportation, death.
I call that "people in difficulty that need help"
Good. Don't think. Have fun with fascism.
Inside info on what ?
Were you on that boat ?
I would love them to be. But no, they are simple ext rapolations of things already happening.
No, they simply have no choices. The problem is not them, it's the entire system, the system that make them live and the system that treat them badly once they are here.
Instead, people are focused on THEM and do not even think one second to question the capitalist structure that creates those problems in the first place.
You really have weird moral panics.
Colonization and immigration are two VERY different things.
Colonization : people invade a state and submit people to the laws of the metropole. This is a domination system coming from the exterior and the state.
Immigration : people enters countries individually and are submitted to the laws of the country they arrived in.
They are not. Colonialism is a question of the domination of a state and the submition of people to the laws of the state. There is a post-colonial process happening, but you, individually are not colonialist but descendant of migrants. You are not imposing the laws of the state of your country of origin on people.
history proved that Capitalism doesn't work to make people coexist, not that people can't coexist.
The colonialism* caused the 48 war. people were welcomed at first if i'm not mistaken.
Again, the problems are the system, not immigration itself. Hence why, what we must do is attack the system, not immigration.
It IS invalide.
You can fear if you want, but once you start to think, you need to understand that immigration is not a problem but rather the solution.
In reality, through immigration, you make people meet people that they are not used to. This creates a mixing of culture and a global opening of the mindset of both people.
Immigration is not a problem. It never was, it will never be. The problem is capitalism.
The colonialism* caused the 48 war. people were welcomed at first if i'm not mistaken.
Middle class compared to what ? USA ? Senegal ?
Of course you need some ressources to flee and pay the smugglers.. but once you do that ? Well, you risk homelessness, deportation, death.
I call that "people in difficulty that need help"
Good. Don't think. Have fun with fascism.
That's because it was a training and he used his term to gain even more popularity. Now, you will see the real deal. All the anti-fascist cursors are in the red. There is a real danger. I'm really not overestimating things here.
I HOPE with all I have that we are wrong !
And do you know what is the worst thing ? Trump rising and failing the US is only but the FIRST STEP of the rise of fascism. Because the more he will fail, the more people will support him and the more he will be legitimized in power. This will legitimize the attacks on the constitutions from his and his followers's point of view and starting from that, it's game over.
You think that people would be afraid of fascism ?
No. They will embrass it.
Fascism is reassuring, it's a clear system with a hierarchy of suffering where people know their places and they legitimize those places on the sufferings of others. You are happy under fascism, not because you are not in danger, but because you are not the one who will most likely suffer first. This sence of control is reassuring. This is why fascism is so hard to get rid of and once it appears...
Well.. good luck.
I HOPE with all I have that we are wrong !
And do you know what is the worst thing ? Trump rising and failing the US is only but the FIRST STEP of the rise of fascism. Because the more he will fail, the more people will support him and the more he will be legitimized in power. This will legitimize the attacks on the constitutions from his and his followers's point of view and starting from that, it's game over.
You think that people would be afraid of fascism ?
No. They will embrass it.
Fascism is reassuring, it's a clear system with a hierarchy of suffering where people know their places and they legitimize those places on the sufferings of others. You are happy under fascism, not because you are not in danger, but because you are not the one who will most likely suffer first. This sence of control is reassuring. This is why fascism is so hard to get rid of and once it appears...
Well.. good luck.
Most poor people have never even left their own city in their life time.
Ofc, its an exaggeration to display how the welfare system could be overwhelmed by the migrant crisis.
You know what's common between Hilary, Harris and you?
None of you make sense
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Ofc, its an exaggeration to display how the welfare system could be overwhelmed by the migrant crisis.
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You know what's common between Hilary, Harris and you?
None of you make sense
