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I have not written down one thing related to morals though. I stated a list of facts, with the semi-theocracy being the only really biased statement.
If you allow a comparison, is like saying that the IRA and the British were both bad and wrong.
They were, but the difference between the two is clear.
Another comparison, both nazi and allies had concentration camps and bombed cities. Were they equally bad and the difference is down to morals?
If you allow a comparison, is like saying that the IRA and the British were both bad and wrong.
They were, but the difference between the two is clear.
Another comparison, both nazi and allies had concentration camps and bombed cities. Were they equally bad and the difference is down to morals?
You were quoting me, lol.
Again, nobody is choosing, I am just saying that saying "everyone is bad, there is nothing else to say "diminishes all discussion.
The two entities are not the same, and saying that they are both bad to not single out the worse behaviours of each is just a way to justify either behaviour.
Terrorism and apartheid and genocide are bad and different, and all must be condemned. Individually and distinctly.
Again, nobody is choosing, I am just saying that saying "everyone is bad, there is nothing else to say "diminishes all discussion.
The two entities are not the same, and saying that they are both bad to not single out the worse behaviours of each is just a way to justify either behaviour.
Terrorism and apartheid and genocide are bad and different, and all must be condemned. Individually and distinctly.
Just the whole Israel vs Palestine topic that's been having members go back and forth on which side is worse than the other.
This back and forth debate seems to be coming to a close though.
Edit: It wasn't the first time in history that one country made the decision to declare total destruction over the other in retaliation for an attack made on them. The Palestinian citizens getting caught in the crossfire (including the displacemnt of a whopping 1.9 million people) is a major tragedy, but it's the aftereffect of a retaliatory offensive assault from Israel and its soldiers that want blood against the people that wronged them.
Tensions still high between the two sides and it's pretty much a guarantee that a significant percentage of Israeli soldiers don't care much, if at all for the lives of Palestinians.
After all, from the POV of the Israelis, why should they lend sympathy towards the people of an enemy state/country/whatever when the Palestinians are the people that harbor grudges against them even though those Palestinian terrorists were the ones that made a preemptive attack first?
The devastating consequences of large-scale war destroys the lives of innocents way more than the lives of the instigators and the soldiers actually fighting in the conflict.
This back and forth debate seems to be coming to a close though.
Edit: It wasn't the first time in history that one country made the decision to declare total destruction over the other in retaliation for an attack made on them. The Palestinian citizens getting caught in the crossfire (including the displacemnt of a whopping 1.9 million people) is a major tragedy, but it's the aftereffect of a retaliatory offensive assault from Israel and its soldiers that want blood against the people that wronged them.
Tensions still high between the two sides and it's pretty much a guarantee that a significant percentage of Israeli soldiers don't care much, if at all for the lives of Palestinians.
After all, from the POV of the Israelis, why should they lend sympathy towards the people of an enemy state/country/whatever when the Palestinians are the people that harbor grudges against them even though those Palestinian terrorists were the ones that made a preemptive attack first?
The devastating consequences of large-scale war destroys the lives of innocents way more than the lives of the instigators and the soldiers actually fighting in the conflict.
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Gaimon....my entire point was that people assume some kind of allegiance depending on who you critize at the time, basically a cry for better convos. The first post you quote literally stated that people accuse you of supporting terrorism(supporting rape and killing innocents) if you criticize Israel, or that you support genocide if you criticize Hamas. You can condemn both. One side may be worse than other, but that doesn't mean the other side is off the hook. Some think Hamas is worse, some Israel worse, whatever. Nothing about what I said is justifying any behavior, and saying such is proving my point. I don't get what you're trying to say anymore.
I was saying that saying "both are bad" is a bad thing to say in general.
I also agree with your topic, that's why I am not calling people affiliated with anything, I just call them retarded if they behaved like retards.
But I'll tone it down if the topic get threatened with closure.
It's a tender matter though, and as such it gets heated easily, specially if you/me/one believes that people are deliberately lying or obfuscating reality.
I also agree with your topic, that's why I am not calling people affiliated with anything, I just call them retarded if they behaved like retards.
But I'll tone it down if the topic get threatened with closure.
It's a tender matter though, and as such it gets heated easily, specially if you/me/one believes that people are deliberately lying or obfuscating reality.
Maybe i misunderstood, but i was under the impression that your point was that one side is worse and therefore one cant make this comparison in the first place.
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This sounds like you actually do agree that both are bad
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Saying both are bad doesnt really say anything to the extent of how bad they are anyway.
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This sounds like you actually do agree that both are bad
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Saying both are bad doesnt really say anything to the extent of how bad they are anyway.
It's so fucking funny to see people here point fingers at each other without understanding their arguments
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Some pretend committing a crime justifies the opposing side to commit even worse crimes.
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So let me get this straight
People who are saying "Hamas is terrorist organization who targets civilians and derail peace process" and Hamas needs to be taken care of while saying Palestinians have right to statehood and freedom which Israel can't take away from them....makes them "pawn" of Jews.
So, by that logic, can I say people who defends Hamas are " bitches" of terrorists?
People who are saying "Hamas is terrorist organization who targets civilians and derail peace process" and Hamas needs to be taken care of while saying Palestinians have right to statehood and freedom which Israel can't take away from them....makes them "pawn" of Jews.
So, by that logic, can I say people who defends Hamas are " bitches" of terrorists?
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Some pretend committing a crime justifies the opposing side to commit even worse crimes.
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