Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

I would say I’m a socialist, my whole point of view is that everyone deserves equity in all things…so when I see legislation specifically designed to raise taxes on people like me while allowing corporations and the fat pigs who run them to make millions upon millions of dollars with no regulation, it gets under my skin quite a bit. Sorry to hear about your health issues, but the way you described what happens in your country applies equally to what happens in mine; people die on transplant lists and can’t be seen for other things due to overcrowding, but the difference is that they pay out the fucking nose because insurance companies are allowed to determine medical necessity and refuse to pay out on legitimate claims. I don’t believe that everyone should get everything for free, but I do think that healthcare is a human right and more energy/tax money should go towards improving these facilities rather than CEOs who gleefully profit off the death industry
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Not necessarily related, but I wanna say that even as a socialist, I see the merit in capitalism as a concept; I don’t advocate for everyone to be lazy and not work, I just think that regular people should be paid wages commensurate to the ever-inflating cost of living and certain things like food and medicine should be affordable on anyone’s salary

Problem is that Socialism enables the kind of thing you are very much pissed about. All the commies in Latin America are rich as fuck and often corporate owners themselves. Socialism only works in places like Japan, where people have a high sense of respect and obligation towards society as a whole. In places, where it's everyone for themselves, corruption is the only logical conclusion to a system that centralizes power. Minarchism is the only political model that works in a society of cunts. Most people are cunts these days.

 

[Uncle Van]

Not necessarily related, but I wanna say that even as a socialist, I see the merit in capitalism as a concept; I don’t advocate for everyone to be lazy and not work, I just think that regular people should be paid wages commensurate to the ever-inflating cost of living and certain things like food and medicine should be affordable on anyone’s salary

One of the biggest problems has always been lack of regulation. There's been slow deregulation from the 60s, and then skyrocketed in the 80s with Ronald Reagan. They keep weakening the government and giving more and more control to the private sector.

 

[NAMELESS]

One of the biggest problems has always been lack of regulation. There's been slow deregulation from the 60s, and then skyrocketed in the 80s with Ronald Reagan. They keep weakening the government and giving more and more control to the private sector.

Isn't it both a lack and excess of regulation? There is a lot of paperworker that increases price of things, but at the same time, there isnt proper regulation to limit fees. Did i get it wrong?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

One of the biggest problems has always been lack of regulation. There's been slow deregulation from the 60s, and then skyrocketed in the 80s with Ronald Reagan. They keep weakening the government and giving more and more control to the private sector.

Yep, and since corporations don’t have to answer to their consumers like the government has to (or SHOULD) listen to their constituents, that makes it all the more easier to gouge us and we have little recourse beyond boycotts (which still hurt regular people by way of forcibly depriving themselves) to get back at them…like I said, I have no problem with companies making money, but they’re sucking customers and employees alike completely dry, then they turn around and blame US for the stagnant economy
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Problem is that Socialism enables the kind of thing you are very much pissed about. All the commies in Latin America are rich as fuck and often corporate owners themselves. Socialism only works in places like Japan, where people have a high sense of respect and obligation towards society as a whole. In places, where it's everyone for themselves, corruption is the only logical conclusion to a system that centralizes power. Minarchism is the only political model that works in a society of cunts. Most people are cunts these days.

I know it’s pie-in-the-sky to expect Americans to come together and look out for each other instead of doing what Ravager does and going along with the cruelest movement du jour, but until conservatives stop voting against their own interests and liberals stop clinging to the corpses of elected officials who would have retired of their own volition if they had a shred of integrity, ain’t nothing gonna change between the common folks

 

[NAMELESS]

Yep, and since corporations don’t have to answer to their consumers like the government has to (or SHOULD) listen to their constituents, that makes it all the more easier to gouge us and we have little recourse beyond boycotts (which still hurt regular people by way of forcibly depriving themselves) to get back at them…like I said, I have no problem with companies making money, but they’re sucking customers and employees alike completely dry, then they turn around and blame US for the stagnant economy
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I know it’s pie-in-the-sky to expect Americans to come together and look out for each other instead of doing what Ravager does and going along with the cruelest movement du jour, but until conservatives stop voting against their own interests and liberals stop clinging to the corpses of elected officials who would have retired of their own volition if they had a shred of integrity, ain’t nothing gonna change between the common folks

Social democracy only works in very rich nations that have advanced civilizations. Poor and less civilized nations are better off being Minarchists.
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Also, i just realized that we have been debating a lot about political systems, but none of us have talked about the other big problem that can't be solved by voting: The monetary system is broken.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

except you fail to show how I collaborated. I neither voted for trump nor pushed for the bill.

?
I don’t care yet I argue for better taxation and welfare systems?

I want better policies to help Americans, but if they don’t want that I am not here to force them to, hence it’s not up to me to “save them”. We’re at a point in American politics where conservatives should face the consequences of their votes, so be it.

Then why not ask for democrats to fight him more? We got Elisa Slotkin voting with him 50% of the time. Cory Booker virtue signaling and then goes on to confirm Jared Kushner's dad as ambassador to France. Chuckie Chuck voting for that horrible CR bill.

The candidates you support do not match the policies you claim you support.

 

[NAMELESS]

One of the biggest problems has always been lack of regulation. There's been slow deregulation from the 60s, and then skyrocketed in the 80s with Ronald Reagan. They keep weakening the government and giving more and more control to the private sector.

Btw, why did @eamonpro get banned?

 

[Daniel]

Btw, why did @eamonpro get banned?

Banned despite having a limited number of posts, because a hundred something posts isn't much. Hmm...

Could it have been someone's dupe?

 

[Uncle Van]

Btw, why did @eamonpro get banned?

Accusing a member of loving rape and being a pedophile for being a Trumper. He gotta chill.

 

[Roo]

Then why not ask for democrats to fight him more? We got Elisa Slotkin voting with him 50% of the time. Cory Booker virtue signaling and then goes on to confirm Jared Kushner's dad as ambassador to France. Chuckie Chuck voting for that horrible CR bill.

The candidates you support do not match the policies you claim you support.

None of these people are my elected officials. This is an issue people have nowadays with politics. They focus so much on nationwide political conversations they forget they have the most power with local elections, which in turn affect nationwide races.

If I have an issue with my state rep I'd vote for their primary opponents and join political canvassing efforts. It's as simple as that.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Troll solis or someone else who is willing to play this game with you.

2022 called, they want their expectations back😭

I know it’s pie-in-the-sky to expect Americans to come together and look out for each other instead of doing what Ravager does

And why would they? The country is way too large. It's near impossible to feel a sense of true kinship with millions of people one has never met and will never interact with on a personal level. The bigger societies get, the more they fragment internally, effectively creating a state where we live next to strangers, work with strangers for the benefit of strangers, share funeral space with strangers, buy from strangers etc..
Excessively big societies are not functional as they require artificially levelling and neutralizing (regional) identity.
Empires are not meant to be happy, healthy societies. They're designed for the 0.01% on top whose sole desire it is to rule and control as many people as possible.

I'm not criticizing your post, just adding some food for thought.

 

[NAMELESS]

Accusing a member of loving rape and being a pedophile for being a Trumper. He gotta chill.

LOL Did he do that to me or Ravager? I don't even remember that. Most of his post were straw man, whataboutism and gaslighting. He is a more aggressive(and dumber) version of C4N.

Banned despite having a limited number of posts, because a hundred something posts isn't much. Hmm...

Could it have been someone's dupe?

Nahh, guy isn't well mannered. That is his second ban in less than 150 posts. The first time it happened, he told me to end myself.

not to mention man, every single faux macho post you do like “you’re just a troll yadda yadda you’ve been banned before 100 posts” only makes people laugh at you.

You are paranoid. I wasn't trying to be intimidating. It was a friendly heads up. There, it happened just liked i predicted. I called it out. Who is laughing now? You lack manners and self awareness. People like you easily get themselves banned. "You gotta hear the voice of reason, son."

Then find the loopholes and close them? Seems way less drastic than getting rid of taxes.

Somehow i missed this. There isn't a fix for this. They can just move their money and business abroad. Taxing them in fact hurts the poor. Why is it that everyone moved their industries to China? Yeah and how did that workout for workers in America? Exactly.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/01/pow...-have-cut-by-now-were-it-not-for-tariffs.html
Weird, the stable genius billionaire’s emotionally reactive tariffs DIDN’T ease economic issues and prevented the Fed from providing any sort of financial relief…maybe the guy who ran most of his business ventures into the ground wasn’t the right person for this job?? I know guys like Ravager will look at this as a brilliant tactic despite overwhelming evidence that this kind of shit just grinds people like him into dust, but I don’t think it’s that good…!!
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https://www.orlandosentinel.com/202...ter-bondi-claims-tens-of-thousands-of-videos/
What’s the fucking mystery?? Donnie’s on all the lists and in all the photos, that’s literally the only reason they haven’t been released…the pettiest piece of shit around would have made them public on day one if he wasn’t all over that shit

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1lp758g
Whooooa Trump and his supporters lied??????????????

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yeah, they lied.

DUH

Trump is Orochi.

The people running DC/London/Israel/Vatican are the Kaido in this situation.

Wow... I never really thought about that.

Trump is 1000% Orochi, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Daddy Israel told Big Baby to deport the mean people criticizing Iswael for blowing up kids with rocks, and now we've got masked terrorist sponsored by the Republican Party running all over the USA. I imagine it's completely coincidence that Trump, the Republicans, and Israel, who are tied to international sex child rape rings, want to be able to freely kidnap people off the streets?

They've always been about human trafficking; ICE is just the Banker Class expanding human trafficking back to the North Atlantic Slave Trade days, when you could just legally pick black people up off the streets and enslave them.

And honestly? This is karma. This is what America wanted. How long have us Americans watched masked men destroy and rape the Middle East into rubble?

What?

Did you think it couldn't happen here? To you? To people you know?

Such arrogance.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://forward.com/news/733168/return-to-the-land-arkansas-jews-eric-orwoll/
Absolutely devastating for the four Jews who are brave/desperate enough to live in Arkansas, now they’ll have to go somewhere that’s ranked in the top half of the country for education and healthcare, what a horrible punishment

 

[NAMELESS]

https://forward.com/news/733168/return-to-the-land-arkansas-jews-eric-orwoll/
Absolutely devastating for the four Jews who are brave/desperate enough to live in Arkansas, now they’ll have to go somewhere that’s ranked in the top half of the country for education and healthcare, what a horrible punishment

Racism is retarded.

 

[Okamakama]

Wait... wait wait wait...

I just realised Logiko is gone.

Where did my favourite sociologist go? :(

 

[NAMELESS]

Wait... wait wait wait...

I just realised Logiko is gone.

Where did my favourite sociologist go? :(

To therapy hopefully.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Trump calls for deporting US citizens: "We also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time ... many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job."
by u/PrithvinathReddy in law
Whooooa Trump and his supporters lied??????????????

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yeah, they lied.

DUH

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-brings-idea-deporting-us-citizens-crimes/story?id=123385213

Wow
Just wow

 

[NAMELESS]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-brings-idea-deporting-us-citizens-crimes/story?id=123385213

Wow
Just wow

These news might have hilarious consequences for this thread.