Controversial General Political Discussion

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Just gotta use a few dogwhistles

I hope they all stub their toes
I hope they all pee their pants

I hope their favorite series next big arc is as "good" as Wano.

I hope their government and agenda ends up as successful as Doflamingo's.



I hope the people in Trump's Government receive all the same lovely treatment they give to others like a shit-seeking boomerang.

I hope the people that support Palestinian Children getting treated like the Nazis treated Anne Frank spend the rest of their lives being mocked as terrorist scum who had no morality, and no one ever respects their useless opinions again.

I hope they always mix up sugar and salt in their coffee, and that every toilet they sit on collapses under the weight of their fat-ass bullshit.

These people have no morality, only conformity to authority.

Weirdo Christiain't child-killing terrorists.

Bless Mexican and Iranian citizens for NOT acting like the white supremacist MAGA terrorists ruining America by kidnapping and killing children in broad daylight.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Wholeheartedly agree on this. I see many left-wing individuals claim that the 2A is dangerous, citing right-wing gun nuts. However, that same amendment is THEIR lifeline at this point.

Aren't you in UK? Heard it's even worse there than in Germany when it comes to legal self defense.

I hope the people in Trump's Government receive all the same lovely treatment they give to others like a shit-seeking boomerang.

I hope the people that support Palestinian Children getting treated like the Nazis treated Anne Frank spend the rest of their lives being mocked as terrorist scum who had no morality, and no one ever respects their useless opinions again.

I hope they always mix up sugar and salt in their coffee, and that every toilet they sit on collapses under the weight of their fat-ass bullshit.

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[Okamakama]

Aren't you in UK? Heard it's even worse there than in Germany when it comes to legal self defense.

I am, and our self-defence laws are atrocious. There have been many stories of burglars scaling drainage pipes, falling off and suing the house owner... so imagine how stupid our laws are regarding protection.

You can use self-defence for yourself or another here, but the amount of force has to be 'proportional'. However, for anybody who has seen or been in a real fight, you'll know that you can rarely gauge that in the moment.

The sad truth is that for an untrained man or woman the only way to ensure the threat cannot resurface is to knock the aggressor unconscious or kill them. If you are fighting a young or middle-aged man, you won't be able to simply pin him and wait for the police. So what happens in most of these cases is that the one who broke into your home and endangered you and your family's lives often sues you for thousands and you, the defender, end up in jail or, at the least, have a mark on your permanent criminal record which basically destroys you economically because good-luck getting a job after that.

I'd rather have the US' self-defence laws.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

and endangered you and your family's lives

All this shit makes me think that choosing to not have children early in life was the right thing to do.
Having kids only holds you down. You can't do shit, not even protect them from harm, without facing the possible situation of forcing them to grow up without a parent or even make them orphans.

 

[NAMELESS]

I am, and our self-defence laws are atrocious. There have been many stories of burglars scaling drainage pipes, falling off and suing the house owner... so imagine how stupid our laws are regarding protection.

You can use self-defence for yourself or another here, but the amount of force has to be 'proportional'. However, for anybody who has seen or been in a real fight, you'll know that you can rarely gauge that in the moment.

The sad truth is that for an untrained man or woman the only way to ensure the threat cannot resurface is to knock the aggressor unconscious or kill them. If you are fighting a young or middle-aged man, you won't be able to simply pin him and wait for the police. So what happens in most of these cases is that the one who broke into your home and endangered you and your family's lives often sues you for thousands and you, the defender, end up in jail or, at the least, have a mark on your permanent criminal record which basically destroys you economically because good-luck getting a job after that.

I'd rather have the US' self-defence laws.

We can own guns down here in Brazil, but judges don't really like when we use them. A lot of these judges are extreme-left wing activists. It really boils down to being lucky enough to not get your case judged by one of those.

 

[Okamakama]

All this shit makes me think that choosing to not have children early in life was the right thing to do.
Having kids only holds you down. You can't do shit, not even protect them from harm, without facing the possible situation of forcing them to grow up without a parent or even make them orphans.

Depends on your perspective. I think having children broadens and enriches your life, but that is another matter.

Ultimately, self-defence laws are grossly in favour of the aggressor than the one doing the defending in my country, and many others on the European continent. I don't really know how we got to this point, but here we are I guess.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

All this shit makes me think that choosing to not have children early in life was the right thing to do.
Having kids only holds you down. You can't do shit, not even protect them from harm, without facing the possible situation of forcing them to grow up without a parent or even make them orphans.

The people that adopt children/take care of poor kids during times like this are truly the best parts of nature/the universe, IMO.

The amount of adults that make kids "just because" is kind of revolting. Like, how many adults just make children because they felt like they were supposed to?

The stuff with Musk paying women to get impregnated by him, then trying to build them all a complex to live in is just plain nuts.

That's also why the attitude of those religious people pisses me off so much: they treat people like shit for having sex in the first place, then call women worthless if they DON'T make children, too.

They act as is producing a child is more important than nurturing them.

I like how Oda writes adoptive parents, and makes it clear that family is beyond sex and blood, but the people who choose to be in your corner.

In terms of how we reproduce, humans really are one of the fucking stupidest species on the planet. Insects are MUCH more mindful of population numbers and resource management than we are.

Like, how many people in the US could actually protect their kids from the US government? Go ask Gaza.

 

[NAMELESS]

Depends on your perspective. I think having children broadens and enriches your life, but that is another matter.

Ultimately, self-defence laws are grossly in favour of the aggressor than the one doing the defending in my country, and many others on the European continent. I don't really know how we got to this point, but here we are I guess.

Btw, i noticed this is a trend in countries that have socialist leanings. I heard the UK judicial system is ideologically compromised too.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Listen, i have been baiting these people lately with bad takes about rich people, but since things seem to be looking very shady in America, i will stop this now.

I will drop this here for @Toby D. Dog @Monkey D Theories @Jew D. Boy to remember the American spirit is a fighting one:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/l...of-allegiance-to-the-united-states-of-america

American spirit is a fighting one. Once Tyranny rises it ugly head, you can't just decide to stay idle and let someone else fix things for you.

Believe me, there are few things I’d like to do more than (looks around for Al to show up) **** the fascist bastards who are destroying my country, but the verbiage of that amendment only condones bearing arms when you’re fighting FOR America, not AGAINST it…the oligarchs have all the money and power to stop left-wing militias (especially while they boost right-leaning ones for the same reason); I’m not naive enough to think voting and/or protesting will have a tangible effect, but it does take more than bullets to trigger a revolution. All that being said, my wife won’t let me buy a gun for several good reasons, so I guess I have no room to talk

 

[Okamakama]

Btw, i noticed this is a trend in countries that have socialist leanings. I heard the UK judicial system is ideologically compromised too.

"Even criminals are human." Whilst true, it doesn't mean we should empower them to mete out evil upon innocent people.

A question I would ask of people who support such laws: Are you truly a pacifist, or are you a coward?

True pacifists will fight back when necessary, cowards won't.

 

[NAMELESS]

Believe me, there are few things I’d like to do more than (looks around for Al to show up) **** the fascist bastards who are destroying my country, but the verbiage of that amendment only condones bearing arms when you’re fighting FOR America, not AGAINST it…the oligarchs have all the money and power to stop left-wing militias (especially while they boost right-leaning ones for the same reason); I’m not naive enough to think voting and/or protesting will have a tangible effect, but it does take more than bullets to trigger a revolution. All that being said, my wife won’t let me buy a gun for several good reasons, so I guess I have no room to talk

Bro, 2A was created for domestic and external threats. You guys literally have a right to start a civil war. Btw, who is the man in your house?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

All this shit makes me think that choosing to not have children early in life was the right thing to do.
Having kids only holds you down. You can't do shit, not even protect them from harm, without facing the possible situation of forcing them to grow up without a parent or even make them orphans.

I have never once regretted not having kids, and I don’t plan on bringing any new people into such a cruel and crumbling world…I ask my friends who have procreated how they handle the myriad dangers kids face everywhere, and to a person, they all tell me they’re constantly terrified of school shootings or a mandatory draft or microplastics in food, basically anything and everything that can ruin a child’s life or end it completely. The human race will always perpetuate itself, so there’s gonna be grist for the mill no matter what I do, but I highly advocate letting your bloodline die with you, the machine will keep running with or without it

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

and I hope the boots you’re licking taste delicious

he's actively looking for more dictator boots, his own country doesn't fulfil his desire for boots

Depends on your perspective. I think having children broadens and enriches your life, but that is another matter.

Yes of course it does. Until you have to watch them tortured and killed or they have to watch you compromise on all the morals you ever taught them because your instinct and hormones win over your mind and thus putting your children and everyone else in more danger because parents who are faced with their children's immediate abuse or death lose the ability to use their brains.

In terms of how we reproduce, humans really are one of the fucking stupidest species on the planet. Insects are MUCH more mindful of population numbers and resource management than we are.

Oh, don't underestimate us😂we always make sure to reduce population numbers once they become unmanageable. The higher and denser the population, the more aggressive, tribalist and warlike we become. There's nothing we can do about it, it's a hormonal nd psychological reaction.

it does take more than bullets to trigger a revolution

Yes, don't forget the 3d printed guns. Or do you want to throw the bullets at them?

the verbiage of that amendment only condones bearing arms when you’re fighting FOR America

Well it's certainly not the oligarchs that fight for America.

my wife won’t let me buy a gun for several good reasons

Anyone who legally can have one should have one. In Germany they just banned a needle air revolver that shoots 4 cm needles. It was a perfectly legal product, but govt didn't like it, the media framed it as a weapon for right wing extremists so the law was quickly changed.

A question I would ask of people who support such laws: Are you truly a pacifist, or are you a coward?

The latter. And that's not because of them leaning left. Heck I am left leaning and don't understand what choosing to not defend oneself has anything to do with socialist values.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Bro, 2A was created for domestic and external threads. You guys literally have a right to start a civil war. Btw, who is the man in your house?

You’re not wrong, but I am an untrained civilian staring down metaphorical and literal barrels from people who make it their duty to arm themselves to the teeth and lash out at anyone who doesn’t affirm their worldview, my existence is a drop in the bucket so it seems foolish to let some skinhead in Idaho take it away from me because I got too overzealous. Also, I’m gonna assume you’re not married if you have to ask that question…but believe me, the saying “Happy wife, happy life” exists because it’s true

 

[NAMELESS]

but I highly advocate letting your bloodline die with you, the machine will keep running with or without it

You forgot to type "NOT", right? Right?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

You forgot to type "NOT", right? Right?

I said what I meant to say

 

[NAMELESS]

You’re not wrong, but I am an untrained civilian staring down metaphorical and literal barrels from people who make it their duty to arm themselves to the teeth and lash out at anyone who doesn’t affirm their worldview, my existence is a drop in the bucket so it seems foolish to let some skinhead in Idaho take it away from me because I got too overzealous. Also, I’m gonna assume you’re not married if you have to ask that question…but believe me, the saying “Happy wife, happy life” exists because it’s true

Advice learn with people that were in your situation and pulled off a win. The US lost a war to a bunch of men wearing sandals, wielding old aks and hiding in mountains. Asymmetrical warfare is a thing. There are plenty of tatical instruction for civillinas in the US. You can literally look up those for free on youtube. But, ofc, you also gotta put in time and money.

 

[Okamakama]

I have never once regretted not having kids, and I don’t plan on bringing any new people into such a cruel and crumbling world…I ask my friends who have procreated how they handle the myriad dangers kids face everywhere, and to a person, they all tell me they’re constantly terrified of school shootings or a mandatory draft or microplastics in food, basically anything and everything that can ruin a child’s life or end it completely. The human race will always perpetuate itself, so there’s gonna be grist for the mill no matter what I do, but I highly advocate letting your bloodline die with you, the machine will keep running with or without it

Before anything else, please let me preface this by saying: I am not saying you are wrong to live the way you do.

The experiences of those in your life are real, but I plead you do not wholesale advocate for people 'letting their bloodline die'. My words are not about legacy. They are not about ego. However, I am certain that the reason those friends of yours fear so greatly is due to the immense love they hold for their children.

That love is precious. It helps sustain the heart. Whilst we may bring children into a dangerous world, that does not make life any less beautiful. It is something all expecting and current parents will know implicitly.

Much love to you for your decision, however.

Yes of course it does. Until you have to watch them tortured and killed or they have to watch you compromise on all the morals you ever taught them because your instinct and hormones win over your mind and thus putting your children and everyone else in more danger because parents who are faced with their children's immediate abuse or death lose the ability to use their brains.

I'd rather die protecting my children and show them through sacrifice that sometimes you must fight, than let them die or never be born out of fear. Life will continue without me, and if they survive, I hope they'll grow from it. There will always be dangers in creating anything, that doesn't make it any less worthwhile.

But I think this is just a difference in values. I'll respectfully end it here.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The human race will always perpetuate itself, so there’s gonna be grist for the mill no matter what I do, but I highly advocate letting your bloodline die with you, the machine will keep running with or without it

To everyone who's going to criticize this statement: it's a natural reaction to living in broken, overcrowded societies that have become too insane to allow livable circumstances for its citizens.
Humankind won't die out because some decide not to procreate, rather the opposite. Future generations need more space and enough healthy food to thrive, mere survival is not worth pursuing for its own sake.

Also, I’m gonna assume you’re not married if you have to ask that question…but believe me, the saying “Happy wife, happy life” exists because it’s true

Glad I also decided to never marry, even before deciding against children.

 

[NAMELESS]

To everyone who's going to criticize this statement: it's a natural reaction to living in broken, overcrowded societies that have become too insane to allow livable circumstances for its citizens.
Humankind won't die out because some decide not to procreate, rather the opposite. Future generations need more space and enough healthy food to thrive, mere survival is not worth pursuing for its own sake.


Glad I also decided to never marry, even before deciding against children.

I want to marry, but divorce laws scare the shit out of me.