Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

You may not be able to change the system, but the people as a group can


Do you not care, or do you mean you don't care because you don't think strong unions, the economy being entirely made up of worker co-operatives, or worker ownership of the means of production, are possible?

The game is rigged, we were all born in a rigged machine.
We cannot change anything, we can only play like crabs in the bucket and pull everyone down to be slightly higher.
Because the only weapons unions had was that if the workers unionised, there was no product.
Now, you just import cheap labour and call it inclusion and diversity.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

People complaining about Billionaires yet still buy from them.
Make it make sense.

I do agree they have gotten to big and imo close to qualifying for Monopoly.
Capitalism as I know it, the free Market, ( rather a small part of the whole) which has stopped actually being as such for a long while now.
Corruption has spread within allowing it to not work as intended.

Are you stupid? So what are common people supposed to do when these people dominate entire markets? People have no choice when it's a lot cheaper to get groceries from Walmart than to buy locally.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Hence not working as intended, corruption.

Yeah I wasn't trying to contradicted you but reinforce your point

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Are you stupid? So what are common people supposed to do when these people dominate entire markets? People have no choice when it's a lot cheaper to get groceries from Walmart than to buy locally.

He's saying the game is rigged

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The game is rigged, we were all born in a rigged machine.
We cannot change anything, we can only play like crabs in the bucket and pull everyone down to be slightly higher.

Which is what they want us to believe
Lol

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Which is what they want us to believe
Lol

We got no leverage man.
We cannot unionise anymore.
People are "happy" and if you ask people have never been happier.

We might be writing this on here, but majority of people is okay with everything

 

[Toby D. Dog]

He's saying the game is rigged

he's making a statement and then disproving himself in the next sentence.

 

[Blax Blah]

The game is rigged, we were all born in a rigged machine.
We cannot change anything, we can only play like crabs in the bucket and pull everyone down to be slightly higher.
Because the only weapons unions had was that if the workers unionised, there was no product.
Now, you just import cheap labour and call it inclusion and diversity.

Well you can be a doomer about it if you want, I'm looking forward to worker victories, and going to work for them, hopefully those will change your mind

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Well you can be a doomer about it if you want, I'm looking forward to worker victories, hopefully those will change your mind

Yeah, like when amazon worker unionised and they hired 300 people over night?

 

[Blax Blah]

But I mean like do you really want to be the guy in the story who becomes a doomer and kicks the ladder out from under him, turning on immigrants, even being fully aware of the issue of wage labor?

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Yeah, like when amazon worker unionised and they hired 300 people over night?

We will see how it goes

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Maybe something worth keeping in mind by the way, is that the internet as a source of political education is pretty new, and leftist online political education is as well


The failed results you are reffering to are from a different era than the one that's coming


And they also probably ignore the successes

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

But I mean like do you really want to be the guy in the story who becomes a doomer and kicks the ladder out from under him, turning on immigrants, even being fully aware of the issue of wage labor?

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We will see how it goes

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Maybe something worth keeping in mind by the way, is that the internet as a source of political education is pretty new, and leftist online political education is as well


The failed results you are reffering to are from a different era than the one that's coming

Bringing in more immigrants makes the situation worse than already is.
Not the first problem, nor the second.
But is a problem.
And one with a simple solution

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

We got no leverage man.
We cannot unionise anymore.
People are "happy" and if you ask people have never been happier.

We might be writing this on here, but majority of people is okay with everything

Again because we're conditioned to be docile and obedient. We're conditioned to be weaklings.
That's why so many things are designed to keep us in our homes and keep us out of shape.
We unironically get closer to the way the humans in WALL-E lived

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Again because we're conditioned to be docile and obedient. We're conditioned to be weaklings.
That's why so many things are designed to keep us in our homes and keep us out of shape.
We unironically get closer to the way the humans in WALL-E lived

These are good words, but what actions are you suggesting?
What do you do every day to not be docile and obedient?

 

[Blax Blah]

Bringing in more immigrants makes the situation worse than already is.
Not the first problem, nor the second.
But is a problem.
And one with a simple solution

Workers' power is simpler and morally correct unlike what the ban on immigrant implies

 

[Uncle Van]

Yeah I wasn't trying to contradicted you but reinforce your point

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He's saying the game is rigged

The game was never rigged. It's working exactly as it was intended too.

 

[Mathias]

Lol, I had my first example, but yeah I am a nit tired.
Let's say Italian plantations using Bangladeshi or indians or Africans as slaves then?

What was your point again ? I mean do you realize that people wanting immigration for cheap labor force (the right and the far-right too) and people wanting to welcome immigrants with strong labor rights (the left) are not the same ?

The game is rigged, we were all born in a rigged machine.
We cannot change anything, we can only play like crabs in the bucket and pull everyone down to be slightly higher.

Egoist mindset.

 

[Blax Blah]

Again because we're conditioned to be docile and obedient. We're conditioned to be weaklings.
That's why so many things are designed to keep us in our homes and keep us out of shape.
We unironically get closer to the way the humans in WALL-E lived

No way is Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier a leftist?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

These are good words, but what actions are you suggesting?
What do you do every day to not be docile and obedient?

You can simply just not give into their bullshit.
Don't fall for unhealthy food advertisements. Don't get hooked on subscriptions to services especially if you don't even need them
Don't sit in your house 24/7 looking like a bump on a log and actually get active and do things to improve life
Which are things a sadly large amount of Americans don't do

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No way is Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier a leftist?

Pretty much yeah

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Workers' power is simpler and morally correct unlike what the ban on immigrant implies

Unregulated immigration destroys workers power, you contradict yourself in the same phrase.

 

[Blax Blah]

You can simply just not give into their bullshit.
Don't fall for unhealthy food advertisements. Don't get hooked on subscriptions to services especially if you don't even need them
Don't sit in your house 24/7 looking like a bump on a log and actually get active and do things to improve life
Which are things a sadly large amount of Americans don't do

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Pretty much yeah

This is a gigantic W

 

[Toby D. Dog]

The game was never rigged. It's working exactly as it was intended too.

In spite of how most people can recognize that billionaires are a problem, they still would rather blame immigrants for their current economic situation instead of the people who actually determine if they're able to get a fair wage and the basic needs.

The billionaires have successfully weaponized xenophobia and racism against the masses.